Ukraine Crisis - Page 321

Nope, no Russian military forces anywhere in Ukraine. No sir. Absolutely no sign of that absolutely everywhere.

On March 17 2014 09:07 YasonDinAlt wrote:
Well hello everyone. I am from Russia, a kind, highly developed, mighty ancient civilization, and a country which I am proud of.
And you can believe me or not - Crimea is not the last.

I`d be glad to answer your question, if any. GL HF

Joined TL.net Monday, 17th of March 2014

On March 17 2014 09:39 Ghanburighan wrote:


Then everything is slime and there's no point in discussing anything. Enjoy that bleak world.

I prefer to scrutinize sources and to choose which ones are trustworthy, and which are not. Like people from every other country except for Russia, (and Zeo ), I choose independent media in this case. And their reports contradict what you said.

The fact that it's more likely that your perception is warped rather than ours is supported by the UN security council vote. Even China didn't support Russia's position, every other country there voted in favour of the US resolution. This includes such `Western Countries' such as Chad, Argentina, Chile, Nigeria, Jordan and Rwanda. Face it, Russia is the only country that's actively distorting facts (such as claiming that Russian troops are not Russian troops, you can just by howitzers from any local shop....), and all other countries are calling Russia out on its bullshit.

On March 17 2014 10:06 YasonDinAlt wrote:


You don`t want to catch the fact that is screaming from the fragment you just qouted - we are wery alike. I also choose media sources carefully. But I repeat, there is no objectiveness in media. There is editorial policy.
It`s the same thing that if you come to you girlfriend and say "My relation to you is objective". Are you a robot? Doubt that. Same with the journalists. Pray you catch an example.
According to that UN security council vote on resolution.... well, I get in my mind a country, who didn`t give a sh.. on that restrictive resolutions and bombed European cities with thiusands victims of civillians three times for the last 10 years.
Russia? Nope. USSR? Mistake again. The country of objective journalists. the country which fight for peace inpiring war crysises - USA!
Applause to the last stronghold of freedom!
USA inspired takeover in Ucraine, not Russia. It`s US who invested 5 billion in Ucranian nationalizm since 1991.
But it is Rissia who will deal with it. Just like with Syria.

What? Your objective media don`t have a string about that? Sorry.

On March 17 2014 10:16 zlefin wrote:
The best media is to find someone who just doesn't care about the issue because its' irrelevant to their geopolitical interests.

This new guy reads like a government shill to me; not just a crazy and opinionated actual person, but someone who truly is on a payroll to spread propaganda; are other people getting that vibe to?

On March 17 2014 10:17 Sub40APM wrote:

I dont know, I feel like the Russian government could afford better than this. I actually think its a troll who is trolling the Russian posters on here. A meta troll if you will.

He reminds me of a worse grammar zeo, so yes he really does feel like someone who's actually being paid by the government, or like paleman making a new account and trying to sound like a different person.

On March 17 2014 10:16 zlefin wrote:
The best media is to find someone who just doesn't care about the issue because its' irrelevant to their geopolitical interests.

This new guy reads like a government shill to me; not just a crazy and opinionated actual person, but someone who truly is on a payroll to spread propaganda; are other people getting that vibe to?

Hmm, there might be a good seed for a mafia game in this stuff.

On March 17 2014 10:09 m4ini wrote:


There's more media than just american. Some are even independant, who would've thought.

What's your opinion on the videos showing totally not russian soldiers?

On March 17 2014 10:28 YasonDinAlt wrote:


Indeed they are. And I saw that video a week ago, and a dosen of other videos, very alike. I allready told that I can use YouTube. But again: what is your opinion on Crimea`s newly elected government request to Russian government to provide security diring the preparations to referendum?
Why do you neglect that the right of Crimea people to be independent from Kiev could be guarded by Russia?

And towards all that hater with thei sarcastic murmuring "Putin sad that`s true so thats true... next lvl troll" - when speaking about the invasion I mean the invasion into continental part of Ucraine, with which Ucranian media and government frightens sitizens of the South-East of the country. By the way, those sitizens are avaiting the invasion thmselves, for they are 70% Russian and are fed up woth that mess in Kiev.

On March 17 2014 10:29 zlefin wrote:
Keep in mind this is just tl.net; they wouldn't send their good people here, there are more important uses for them. The people actually assigned to a place like this would be more like temps.

On March 17 2014 10:20 hunts wrote:


He reminds me of a worse grammar zeo, so yes he really does feel like someone who's actually being paid by the government, or like paleman making a new account and trying to sound like a different person.

But what you say about referendum in Crimea, that it was carried on Russian guns - it`s a bullshit. You can find on youtube alot of video about it.
Same with underestimating the power of nazi in Kiev. Europe allready learnaed, what is it, 70 years ago. Seems they firgot about it. We didn`t.

On March 17 2014 10:51 YasonDinAlt wrote:


Feel free to call me anything you want.

People of critical thinking, who are being able to synthesize their own piont of view could have found a seed of truth in my texts of awqward English) Alas!

You know guys, you`re being even more concervative than we on Russian forums. It is often happens there, that someone will come and say "you all are slaves, you are zombies of Russian propaganda". It is rude, you know. But we calmly listen to what he says and only when start persuade him.
And you even do not want to read the text, you catch somthing that you can easily disprove, and what else! It`s all over with him - troll, burn.
You`re stuck in your opinion and even can not afford a try to think the other way. We are told about Western people, who are free from stereotypes, are well educated professionals that deserve to be an example for us.
But I see, that you are the same, with that difference, that I can stand on your side and respect your opinion - cause I assume that there is no "good" way of solving Ucranian crysis, and that military force - is a last means possible to list.

But what you say about referendum in Crimea, that it was carried on Russian guns - it`s a bullshit. You can find on youtube alot of video about it.
Same with underestimating the power of nazi in Kiev. Europe allready learnaed, what is it, 70 years ago. Seems they firgot about it. We didn`t.

On March 17 2014 10:32 m4ini wrote:


So how do you sell it as "fact" that there's no russian soldiers in crimea? The russians are allowed 26k soldiers in their bases, true - but i bet they're not allowed to block military installations. That, my friend, is an act of aggression. And that started long before there was a referendum.

And no, it's not russias right to invade (yes, blocking military installations, laying minefields, shipping howitzers which are an offensive part of the military is an invasion).

PS: it's 58% russians, not 70. But since 100 is close enough to 50, i suppose it's fair enough.

But since you're so in favor of legitimations etc, we had that just a couple of pages ago: what do you think about the fact that this referendum is illegal based on the constitution? Wait, don't answer, i pretty much know where this is going.

On March 17 2014 11:20 darkness wrote:
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This propaganda, if true, is really unsportsmanlike.

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On March 17 2014 10:54 m4ini wrote:


You didn't forget, hm? What part? The part where germany did exactly what russia is doing now, which led to war? You mean that part?

On March 17 2014 11:22 Sub40APM wrote:

what do you mean if true? That style of image has been reported by most of Western press in a variety of different locations...