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woden[FICS]
Profile Joined June 2003
American Samoa112 Posts
August 26 2006 02:53 GMT
#221
im on fics, you can message me there for a game
Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
August 26 2006 05:55 GMT
#222
Hey woden, I guess my estimate of 35 minutes was a bit on the short side, sorry about that. We'll play our games I'm sure of it :-).

Regarding your time-control question. I used to prefer longer time-control to prepare for tournament play, but since I don't play tournaments any more I just stick to 3-0 blitz.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't Park Yeong Min - CJ fighting!
ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
August 26 2006 07:12 GMT
#223
On August 26 2006 06:45 Drazzzt wrote:
ChoboCop,

I would like to know: are you certain that NeoTheAKA didn't cheat you? Did you play blitz games?

Even though his "abrasiveness" ( I would use a totally different word, though...) might be facade, his behavior is a shame for chess players in general (my opinion).

Additionally, to state that skill in chess is a good measure for intelligence, is rather ridiculous....

:-(
I guess I should be honest about our encounter. NeoTheAKA made his ICC handle RapingChoboCop and I really felt that noone would be that much of a prick and that confident. My spidey-sense reaked of cheater as many people also mentioned this on the forum.

So I loaded Fritz. Neo admitted that he has not been playing very long and ONLY plays on Yahoo.
He drew my Fritz 6 in the first game, and won the second game.
I felt dirty afterwards because if he wasn't cheating I would have been cheating him. So to save face I just played it off like everything was honkeydorey.

Do you really feel that someone who has no experience outside of yahoo and an elo <2000 can score these results and play these games against a computer with an elo~2400-2600 with only 15 minutes to think?

Here are the games.
[Event "ICC 15 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.08.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "JBlaze"]
[Black "rapingchobocop"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ICCResult "Game drawn by mutual agreement"]
[WhiteElo "1814"]
[BlackElo "1818"]
[Opening "English: symmetrical, main line with d3"]
[ECO "A38"]
[NIC "EO.64"]
[Time "03:16:45"]
[TimeControl "900+0"]

1. c4 c5 2. g3 g6 3. Bg2 Bg7 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. d3 O-O 7. O-O d6 8. a3
Bd7 9. e4 Nd4 10. Nxd4 cxd4 11. Ne2 e5 12. f4 Ng4 13. b4 exf4 14. Nxf4 Ne3
15. Bxe3 dxe3 16. Rb1 Qg5 17. d4 Rac8 18. Qd3 Bg4 19. Rbe1 Be6 20. Rc1 Kh8
21. c5 Rfd8 22. d5 Bg4 23. Qxe3 Bb2 24. Rce1 Be5 25. cxd6 b6 26. h3 Bd7 27.
Kh2 Rc3 28. Nd3 Qxe3 29. Rxe3 Rxd3 30. Rxd3 Bb5 31. Rdf3 Bxf1 32. Rxf1 Kg7
33. b5 Bxd6 34. Rc1 Kf6 35. Rc6 Ke5 36. a4 Kd4 37. Bf3 f5 38. exf5 gxf5 39.
Kg2 Rd7 40. Kf2 Kd3 41. g4 fxg4 42. hxg4 Bc5+ 43. Kg3 Bd6+ 44. Kh4 Ke3 45.
Bg2 Kd4 46. Kg5 Ke5 47. Kh5 Kf4 48. Rc4+ Ke3 49. g5 Bc5 50. Rg4 Kf2 51. Be4
Bd6 52. Kh6 Bf8+ 53. Kh5 Bd6 54. Bf5 Rf7 55. Be6 Rc7 56. Rh4 Kf3 57. Bf5 Rf7
58. Bc2 Rc7 59. Bb1 Bg3 60. Rh1 Rd7 61. Rd1 Bf4 62. Bf5 Rg7 63. Rg1 Bd6 64.
Kh6 Bf8 65. Be6 Ke4 66. Re1+ Kd4 67. Rd1+ Ke5 68. Kh5 Be7 69. Rg1 Kd6 70.
Kh6 Bf8 {Game drawn by mutual agreement} 1/2-1/2

[Event "ICC 15 0 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.08.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "rapingchobocop"]
[Black "JBlaze"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ICCResult "Black resigns"]
[WhiteElo "1818"]
[BlackElo "1814"]
[Opening "Sicilian: Najdorf, 6.f4"]
[ECO "B93"]
[NIC "SI.12"]
[Time "03:46:37"]
[TimeControl "900+0"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f4 e6 7. Qf3 Qc7 8.
g4 Nc6 9. Nxc6 bxc6 10. Be3 d5 11. O-O-O Bb4 12. Bd4 Bxc3 13. Bxc3 dxe4 14.
Qg3 h5 15. Be5 Qb6 16. g5 Nd5 17. Bxg7 Rg8 18. Bd4 c5 19. Be5 f6 20. Qh3
fxe5 21. Qxh5+ Kf8 22. Qh6+ Ke8 23. Rxd5 Rb8 24. Qh5+ Ke7 25. Qh7+ Kf8 26.
Rxe5 Qxb2+ 27. Kd2 Qd4+ 28. Ke2 Qc4+ 29. Kf2 Qxc2+ 30. Kg3 Qc3+ 31. Kh4 Qf3
32. Bc4 Qxf4+ 33. Kh5 Rb1 34. Qh6+ Rg7 35. Qh8+ Kf7 36. g6+ Rxg6 37. Qh7+
Kf8 38. Kxg6 Rxh1 39. Qg7+ Ke8 40. Bxe6 {Black resigns} 1-0
Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
August 26 2006 07:17 GMT
#224
Ddong, this thread makes me want to pick up chess again. I just glanced at my big fat MCO-9.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
August 26 2006 07:20 GMT
#225
Meh, play him in 1 or 3 min games next time then.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't Park Yeong Min - CJ fighting!
maoam
Profile Joined June 2006
United Kingdom444 Posts
August 26 2006 10:05 GMT
#226
On August 22 2006 14:11 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Yeah, I've played like 50 games total (9x9 vs computer not withstanding, I used to just clickety click that for relaxation / fun).


http://senseis.xmp.net

Have fun.
I oink therefore I ham.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
August 26 2006 10:35 GMT
#227
On August 26 2006 16:12 ChoboCop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2006 06:45 Drazzzt wrote:
ChoboCop,

I would like to know: are you certain that NeoTheAKA didn't cheat you? Did you play blitz games?

Even though his "abrasiveness" ( I would use a totally different word, though...) might be facade, his behavior is a shame for chess players in general (my opinion).

Additionally, to state that skill in chess is a good measure for intelligence, is rather ridiculous....

:-(
I guess I should be honest about our encounter. NeoTheAKA made his ICC handle RapingChoboCop and I really felt that noone would be that much of a prick and that confident. My spidey-sense reaked of cheater as many people also mentioned this on the forum.

So I loaded Fritz. Neo admitted that he has not been playing very long and ONLY plays on Yahoo.
He drew my Fritz 6 in the first game, and won the second game.
I felt dirty afterwards because if he wasn't cheating I would have been cheating him. So to save face I just played it off like everything was honkeydorey.

Do you really feel that someone who has no experience outside of yahoo and an elo <2000 can score these results and play these games against a computer with an elo~2400-2600 with only 15 minutes to think?

Here are the games.
[Event "ICC 15 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.08.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "JBlaze"]
[Black "rapingchobocop"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ICCResult "Game drawn by mutual agreement"]
[WhiteElo "1814"]
[BlackElo "1818"]
[Opening "English: symmetrical, main line with d3"]
[ECO "A38"]
[NIC "EO.64"]
[Time "03:16:45"]
[TimeControl "900+0"]

1. c4 c5 2. g3 g6 3. Bg2 Bg7 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. d3 O-O 7. O-O d6 8. a3
Bd7 9. e4 Nd4 10. Nxd4 cxd4 11. Ne2 e5 12. f4 Ng4 13. b4 exf4 14. Nxf4 Ne3
15. Bxe3 dxe3 16. Rb1 Qg5 17. d4 Rac8 18. Qd3 Bg4 19. Rbe1 Be6 20. Rc1 Kh8
21. c5 Rfd8 22. d5 Bg4 23. Qxe3 Bb2 24. Rce1 Be5 25. cxd6 b6 26. h3 Bd7 27.
Kh2 Rc3 28. Nd3 Qxe3 29. Rxe3 Rxd3 30. Rxd3 Bb5 31. Rdf3 Bxf1 32. Rxf1 Kg7
33. b5 Bxd6 34. Rc1 Kf6 35. Rc6 Ke5 36. a4 Kd4 37. Bf3 f5 38. exf5 gxf5 39.
Kg2 Rd7 40. Kf2 Kd3 41. g4 fxg4 42. hxg4 Bc5+ 43. Kg3 Bd6+ 44. Kh4 Ke3 45.
Bg2 Kd4 46. Kg5 Ke5 47. Kh5 Kf4 48. Rc4+ Ke3 49. g5 Bc5 50. Rg4 Kf2 51. Be4
Bd6 52. Kh6 Bf8+ 53. Kh5 Bd6 54. Bf5 Rf7 55. Be6 Rc7 56. Rh4 Kf3 57. Bf5 Rf7
58. Bc2 Rc7 59. Bb1 Bg3 60. Rh1 Rd7 61. Rd1 Bf4 62. Bf5 Rg7 63. Rg1 Bd6 64.
Kh6 Bf8 65. Be6 Ke4 66. Re1+ Kd4 67. Rd1+ Ke5 68. Kh5 Be7 69. Rg1 Kd6 70.
Kh6 Bf8 {Game drawn by mutual agreement} 1/2-1/2

[Event "ICC 15 0 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.08.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "rapingchobocop"]
[Black "JBlaze"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ICCResult "Black resigns"]
[WhiteElo "1818"]
[BlackElo "1814"]
[Opening "Sicilian: Najdorf, 6.f4"]
[ECO "B93"]
[NIC "SI.12"]
[Time "03:46:37"]
[TimeControl "900+0"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f4 e6 7. Qf3 Qc7 8.
g4 Nc6 9. Nxc6 bxc6 10. Be3 d5 11. O-O-O Bb4 12. Bd4 Bxc3 13. Bxc3 dxe4 14.
Qg3 h5 15. Be5 Qb6 16. g5 Nd5 17. Bxg7 Rg8 18. Bd4 c5 19. Be5 f6 20. Qh3
fxe5 21. Qxh5+ Kf8 22. Qh6+ Ke8 23. Rxd5 Rb8 24. Qh5+ Ke7 25. Qh7+ Kf8 26.
Rxe5 Qxb2+ 27. Kd2 Qd4+ 28. Ke2 Qc4+ 29. Kf2 Qxc2+ 30. Kg3 Qc3+ 31. Kh4 Qf3
32. Bc4 Qxf4+ 33. Kh5 Rb1 34. Qh6+ Rg7 35. Qh8+ Kf7 36. g6+ Rxg6 37. Qh7+
Kf8 38. Kxg6 Rxh1 39. Qg7+ Ke8 40. Bxe6 {Black resigns} 1-0

ROFLSTC!
OMFG!
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
August 26 2006 11:12 GMT
#228
On August 26 2006 19:35 One Page Memory wrote:
ROFLSTC!
OMFG!

what what ? what was in the game that got that reaction from you.. please explain it for beginners like me what happened that was so funny/shocking
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
maoam
Profile Joined June 2006
United Kingdom444 Posts
August 26 2006 12:42 GMT
#229
Basically he cheats.
I oink therefore I ham.
fig_newbie
Profile Joined March 2006
749 Posts
August 26 2006 12:54 GMT
#230
It would be funny if both of you cheated for the same reason.
k?
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
August 26 2006 16:54 GMT
#231
On August 26 2006 20:12 a-game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2006 19:35 One Page Memory wrote:
ROFLSTC!
OMFG!

what what ? what was in the game that got that reaction from you.. please explain it for beginners like me what happened that was so funny/shocking

NeoTheAKA came here and bashed and insulted almost everyone.
These two games proves him as a liar and cheater.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
August 26 2006 17:21 GMT
#232
So NeoTheAKA is as pathetic as we all thought and then some. Sweet.
UT-atma
Profile Joined October 2005
54 Posts
August 26 2006 19:15 GMT
#233
Is this for real? Rofl!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 26 2006 19:45 GMT
#234
On August 26 2006 19:05 maoam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2006 14:11 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Yeah, I've played like 50 games total (9x9 vs computer not withstanding, I used to just clickety click that for relaxation / fun).


http://senseis.xmp.net

Have fun.

Yep, I love that site Read it a lot before I ever played a single game, but thx :D Also bought a couple of books.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
August 27 2006 01:18 GMT
#235
ROFL, but we still have his blog which is filled with arrant bullshit. Lets make fun of his small penis!!
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
August 27 2006 08:05 GMT
#236
On August 26 2006 19:35 One Page Memory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2006 16:12 ChoboCop wrote:
On August 26 2006 06:45 Drazzzt wrote:
ChoboCop,

I would like to know: are you certain that NeoTheAKA didn't cheat you? Did you play blitz games?

Even though his "abrasiveness" ( I would use a totally different word, though...) might be facade, his behavior is a shame for chess players in general (my opinion).

Additionally, to state that skill in chess is a good measure for intelligence, is rather ridiculous....

:-(
I guess I should be honest about our encounter. NeoTheAKA made his ICC handle RapingChoboCop and I really felt that noone would be that much of a prick and that confident. My spidey-sense reaked of cheater as many people also mentioned this on the forum.

So I loaded Fritz. Neo admitted that he has not been playing very long and ONLY plays on Yahoo.
He drew my Fritz 6 in the first game, and won the second game.
I felt dirty afterwards because if he wasn't cheating I would have been cheating him. So to save face I just played it off like everything was honkeydorey.

Do you really feel that someone who has no experience outside of yahoo and an elo <2000 can score these results and play these games against a computer with an elo~2400-2600 with only 15 minutes to think?

Here are the games.
[Event "ICC 15 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.08.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "JBlaze"]
[Black "rapingchobocop"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ICCResult "Game drawn by mutual agreement"]
[WhiteElo "1814"]
[BlackElo "1818"]
[Opening "English: symmetrical, main line with d3"]
[ECO "A38"]
[NIC "EO.64"]
[Time "03:16:45"]
[TimeControl "900+0"]

1. c4 c5 2. g3 g6 3. Bg2 Bg7 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. d3 O-O 7. O-O d6 8. a3
Bd7 9. e4 Nd4 10. Nxd4 cxd4 11. Ne2 e5 12. f4 Ng4 13. b4 exf4 14. Nxf4 Ne3
15. Bxe3 dxe3 16. Rb1 Qg5 17. d4 Rac8 18. Qd3 Bg4 19. Rbe1 Be6 20. Rc1 Kh8
21. c5 Rfd8 22. d5 Bg4 23. Qxe3 Bb2 24. Rce1 Be5 25. cxd6 b6 26. h3 Bd7 27.
Kh2 Rc3 28. Nd3 Qxe3 29. Rxe3 Rxd3 30. Rxd3 Bb5 31. Rdf3 Bxf1 32. Rxf1 Kg7
33. b5 Bxd6 34. Rc1 Kf6 35. Rc6 Ke5 36. a4 Kd4 37. Bf3 f5 38. exf5 gxf5 39.
Kg2 Rd7 40. Kf2 Kd3 41. g4 fxg4 42. hxg4 Bc5+ 43. Kg3 Bd6+ 44. Kh4 Ke3 45.
Bg2 Kd4 46. Kg5 Ke5 47. Kh5 Kf4 48. Rc4+ Ke3 49. g5 Bc5 50. Rg4 Kf2 51. Be4
Bd6 52. Kh6 Bf8+ 53. Kh5 Bd6 54. Bf5 Rf7 55. Be6 Rc7 56. Rh4 Kf3 57. Bf5 Rf7
58. Bc2 Rc7 59. Bb1 Bg3 60. Rh1 Rd7 61. Rd1 Bf4 62. Bf5 Rg7 63. Rg1 Bd6 64.
Kh6 Bf8 65. Be6 Ke4 66. Re1+ Kd4 67. Rd1+ Ke5 68. Kh5 Be7 69. Rg1 Kd6 70.
Kh6 Bf8 {Game drawn by mutual agreement} 1/2-1/2

[Event "ICC 15 0 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.08.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "rapingchobocop"]
[Black "JBlaze"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ICCResult "Black resigns"]
[WhiteElo "1818"]
[BlackElo "1814"]
[Opening "Sicilian: Najdorf, 6.f4"]
[ECO "B93"]
[NIC "SI.12"]
[Time "03:46:37"]
[TimeControl "900+0"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f4 e6 7. Qf3 Qc7 8.
g4 Nc6 9. Nxc6 bxc6 10. Be3 d5 11. O-O-O Bb4 12. Bd4 Bxc3 13. Bxc3 dxe4 14.
Qg3 h5 15. Be5 Qb6 16. g5 Nd5 17. Bxg7 Rg8 18. Bd4 c5 19. Be5 f6 20. Qh3
fxe5 21. Qxh5+ Kf8 22. Qh6+ Ke8 23. Rxd5 Rb8 24. Qh5+ Ke7 25. Qh7+ Kf8 26.
Rxe5 Qxb2+ 27. Kd2 Qd4+ 28. Ke2 Qc4+ 29. Kf2 Qxc2+ 30. Kg3 Qc3+ 31. Kh4 Qf3
32. Bc4 Qxf4+ 33. Kh5 Rb1 34. Qh6+ Rg7 35. Qh8+ Kf7 36. g6+ Rxg6 37. Qh7+
Kf8 38. Kxg6 Rxh1 39. Qg7+ Ke8 40. Bxe6 {Black resigns} 1-0

ROFLSTC!
OMFG!


I told you !! And I said it first !!!

Do you really feel that someone who has no experience outside of yahoo and an elo <2000 can score these results and play these games against a computer with an elo~2400-2600 with only 15 minutes to think?


yeah. A better Frtiz engine than yours !
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
fig_newbie
Profile Joined March 2006
749 Posts
August 27 2006 09:57 GMT
#237
lol Neo got nuked? what for ( i mean for curiousity's sake...i think it was pretty agreed upon that he was a dick...unless that was the sole reason o_O)?
k?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-27 10:02:26
August 27 2006 10:01 GMT
#238
For 1) being a fuckface 2) cheating
This is my guess.

Or it was someone thinking this would be a fun joke ;D (ie hot_bid).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
kdog3682
Profile Joined September 2004
United States247 Posts
August 27 2006 10:03 GMT
#239
Chinese chess anyone?
Yes, shes mine regardless of how gosu my zvt is
maoam
Profile Joined June 2006
United Kingdom444 Posts
August 27 2006 10:08 GMT
#240
On August 27 2006 04:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Yep, I love that site Read it a lot before I ever played a single game, but thx :D Also bought a couple of books.


Which ones? I've been working my way through Shuko's tesuji dictionary for a while now ^_^
I oink therefore I ham.
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