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Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
March 10 2013 21:46 GMT
#21
So, how does it work? What do you do?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 10 2013 21:49 GMT
#22
I saw the pyramid scheme coming when I read the original blog post. Be careful dude, these things don't always work out for everyone despite seeming great in the beginning.
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1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
March 10 2013 21:53 GMT
#23
@Zealously Yes, your right sir. I thought the exact same thing when I was taken into the first meeting. I walked out saying these kids are idiots, none of them are going to make money. I then started doing research everyday and looking into it and the credibility of the business. I also then started seeing my friends make more and more money while also being extremely happy because they were their own boss and making money with their friends. I know two people personally who received BMWs from the company (3 year lease of a car of their choice BMWs, Benz, MiniCooper) and was like 0_0. Let me try it.
Twitter: iF0CUS
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
March 10 2013 21:56 GMT
#24
On March 11 2013 06:53 1Focus wrote:
@Zealously Yes, your right sir. I thought the exact same thing when I was taken into the first meeting. I walked out saying these kids are idiots, none of them are going to make money. I then started doing research everyday and looking into it and the credibility of the business. I also then started seeing my friends make more and more money while also being extremely happy because they were their own boss and making money with their friends. I know two people personally who received BMWs from the company (3 year lease of a car of their choice BMWs, Benz, MiniCooper) and was like 0_0. Let me try it.


How does it work?
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
March 10 2013 21:58 GMT
#25
@recognizable It is actually alot to explain and its easier shown/said not typed
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Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
March 10 2013 22:02 GMT
#26
On March 11 2013 06:58 1Focus wrote:
@recognizable It is actually alot to explain and its easier shown/said not typed


I am sure I can handle it.
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
March 10 2013 22:04 GMT
#27
@recognizable kk well give me like 30 minutes to write it all up lol
Twitter: iF0CUS
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
March 10 2013 22:07 GMT
#28
Thanks
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 22:10:42
March 10 2013 22:09 GMT
#29
All I can say is good luck to you and your endeavors. To me, this sounds like another company based on the business model that Herbalife has been using, specifically Multi-level Marketing, to sell its products. MLM is considered by many courts, press, and other institutions as a pyramid scheme.

The fact that you're asking what a pyramid scheme is makes me either feel sorry for you or wish that was a rhetorical question.

You've already been warned. Good luck to you.
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
March 10 2013 22:15 GMT
#30
@Birdkiller it was rhetorical lol...I know what it is
Twitter: iF0CUS
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
March 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#31
@Recognizable I think this link best describes it...cuz images really help...

Compensation Plan
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
March 10 2013 22:51 GMT
#32
Apparently 97% of all Vemma sellers fail... I don't quite know what to say, good luck man.
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Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 22:54:25
March 10 2013 22:53 GMT
#33
On March 11 2013 07:35 1Focus wrote:
@Recognizable I think this link best describes it...cuz images really help...

Compensation Plan


How can you not see the parallels between a pyramid scheme? How can you not see it's basically the exact same fucking thing? It's not about the product. If it was, they wouldn't be so damn overpriced and useless(lol those study's). It's about scamming gullible idiots like you. I was about to do some Math to show you how unsustainable this is but fuck it. I'm going to bed.
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 23:03:29
March 10 2013 23:02 GMT
#34
@MCDayC Ya I saw that too dude...which is a big reason I didn't want to do it but then again 3% of america owns 97% of its wealth...so why dont i try to be part of that 3%. also 550$ doesnt seem all that much in the bigger picture
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1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
March 10 2013 23:04 GMT
#35
@recognizable thanks man appreciate your feedback
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
March 10 2013 23:10 GMT
#36
I've had people try and sell me these energy drinks before at a gym. Sorry OP, but I think you got suckered big time, because it is definitely a pyramid scheme. Have you heard of Herbalife? They do the same things with "natural" products, they're certified by the BBB, and they're listed on the NYSE. But the company is still a huge pyramid scheme (and is being sued by lots of consumer groups as well as investors for it).

The fundamental aspect of a pyramid scheme is that in the end, profits come from bringing more people into the organization, not so much moving the end product to consumers. At some point people at the bottom level will be unable to bring in more people or sell their products, and are left with unsold boxes of cruddy energy drinks in their basement. Its from these people that others higher on the chain make their money from. EVERY product-based MLM scheme is a pyramid scheme, otherwise they would just sell the product conventionally instead of relying on bullshit "network marketing".

Also, just because the product is legitimate does not mean the organization is. Herbalife drinks and Cutco knives are not terrible. The problem is they don't have high enough demand to be profitable, so some immoral execs decide to turn it into a pyramid scheme.

Lastly OP, it is pretty obvious from what you write that you've bought into the Kool-Aid. The empty platitudes (especially the hilarious speech you gave at the end of your post) are always taught to members of pyramid schemes to get them to "buy in". Members are indoctrinated to love the product itself, whereas real salespeople learn both the pros and cons of their products. Plus, pyramid schemes always hire meaningless "experts" (Dr. Oz is a quack doctor who has zero legitimacy, Jordan doesn't know shit about energy drinks). The "rewards" given out to members for recruiting more members is stereotypically a fancy car as well.

OP, when your friends make $1,000 a month, is that before or after the costs of buying the product? Because typically what happens is that even good, smart people end up falling for this shit and end up paying tons of money for the product itself. Then they realize they can't sell it, so they are forced to offload to product to other suckers (which is you, OP). I hope you're good at suckering others because otherwise you're the sap everyone higher in the pyramid is going to be profiting off. By the way, I spent half an hour writing this whole thing because someone I knew got screwed at the bottom, and I hope you get out there before the same happens to you.
1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
March 10 2013 23:17 GMT
#37
@iamho alright i see what your saying, in the end its only 550$ what is that in the bigger picture...if i get screwed ohh well thats 550$ i will never see again, if i profit, its the best 550$ i spent
Twitter: iF0CUS
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
March 10 2013 23:27 GMT
#38
On March 11 2013 08:17 1Focus wrote:
@iamho alright i see what your saying, in the end its only 550$ what is that in the bigger picture...if i get screwed ohh well thats 550$ i will never see again, if i profit, its the best 550$ i spent



How can you argue with solid logic? It's only $550 guys. I have that laying around. That's exactly why I'm participating in this thing! So I can... earn... more money? Wait...

Something fishy is going on here....
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 23:28:49
March 10 2013 23:28 GMT
#39
If people can't explain to me what they do to make money in one line, things get really sketchy.

Good luck, I have a feeling you'll need it...
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1Focus
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States409 Posts
March 10 2013 23:30 GMT
#40
@Chill I can completely explain the way to make money in the business, its just easier for others to understand when you show visuals...hence the point of the video
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