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I_Love_Katheryn
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States41 Posts
February 10 2013 06:34 GMT
#41
While it's true that society often treats men and women differently, in the end it all works out and we are all equals.
You've been here in the dark for way too long, do you remember how it felt in the sunlight? You're still smiling through the pain you're hiding in, but everyone can see that something's just not right.
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
February 10 2013 06:53 GMT
#42
On February 10 2013 15:22 Ianuus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 10:46 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Did you guys know there are different types of FGM? As stated in the link...

There's a type where it's impossible for the woman to have a child, but there are types where it removes sexual sensation. Removing foreskin also takes away from sexual sensation. Both, for the sake of cleanliness.

Cutting off a baby's foreskin without his permission should be considered assault or something equivalent, if circumcising girls is illegal.


Except girls don't have foreskins. I don't see why you're trying to equalise two procedures which apply to different body parts on different people.

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 09:53 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
On February 10 2013 09:50 sam!zdat wrote:
because you're not actually advocating healthy masculinity, you're just a reactionary anti-feminist stooge


You're just a reactionary anti-masculinist stooge. That's easy.

Why don't you provide any intellectual argument? Did you know that female genital mutilation is illegal in the US, while male circumcision is not?

http://www.nocirc.org/publish/9pam.pdf


If you think drawing unanalogous parallels, making illogical inferences, and bringing up irrelevant points constitute an "intellectual argument", then I have bad news for you son.


Men and women have the same genitalia, in a sense. The female equivalent to the male foreskin is the clitoral hood. If you honestly think otherwise, get laid.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 10 2013 11:52 GMT
#43
#Ineedtostayon4chan
or learn how to use my brain
Zest fanboy.
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
February 10 2013 15:16 GMT
#44
On February 10 2013 20:52 sAsImre wrote:
#Ineedtostayon4chan
or learn how to use my brain


Hey, why don't you use your brain to come up with an argument instead of only being able to throw ad hominens? Do you even know what I'm after? Probably not...
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
February 10 2013 17:50 GMT
#45
Twitter is actively banning accounts the responds to any tweet attacking either #IneedMasculism or #IneedMasculismBecause

So much for equality, huh.
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
February 10 2013 18:36 GMT
#46
[image loading]

#IneedMasculism because I shouldn't be censored by corporations.
#IneedHumanism because a gender-implied word shouldn't be the standard.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 10 2013 18:38 GMT
#47
On February 11 2013 02:50 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Twitter is actively banning accounts the responds to any tweet attacking either #IneedMasculism or #IneedMasculismBecause

So much for equality, huh.


This is actually retarded.

But hey Twitter have a monopoly in "convenient ways to share my retarded, self-important ideas and shitty jokes with the world" so they can pull whatever kind of shit they want, because at the end of the day, people are still going to use Twitter.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18821 Posts
February 10 2013 18:46 GMT
#48
Thank God for Ross Parkas. If it weren't were for his brave tweet "#IneedMasculism, they've moved me to the back of the e-bus", well, I just don't know how men would get to e-work or e-school without discrimination.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
February 10 2013 19:33 GMT
#49
On February 11 2013 03:46 farvacola wrote:
Thank God for Ross Parkas. If it weren't were for his brave tweet "#IneedMasculism, they've moved me to the back of the e-bus", well, I just don't know how men would get to e-work or e-school without discrimination.

You're a guardian now
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18821 Posts
February 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#50
Not even the feminists could stop my ascent into the skies.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
February 11 2013 10:21 GMT
#51
#IneedMasculism because I shouldn't have to go to jail, either.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 11 2013 10:39 GMT
#52
The problem with feminism is that it usually becomes quite extreme. The name is fitting in this case, because it has sort of the same problem "Yeah we want females to have it better, making them more equal to men... but the ACTUAL GOAL is equality". So the name isn't completely unfitting, but it's "extreme" and misrepresents the actual goal.

Sweden happens to be one of the most gender equal countries in the world... do you think that means we don't have extreme feminists? Nope. It just keeps going, becoming more and more extreme. In Swedish, like in English, we have gender-based pronouns: He and She (Han, Hon). Feminists in Sweden dislike this, because for some reason, indicating someones gender is bad. So they made up a new word, Hen, which is supposed to be gender neutral. It sounds retarded, but these people actually use it to such a degree that it has started to show up in newspapers etc... Fucking ridiculous. It's only a matter of time until people will literally become offended if you use the proper words.

If feminists renamed themselves equalists and became a bit more rational and worked for the goals which actually matter, such as the wage gap, they would get far more followers and have far more impact... instead, they are busy whining about pronouns.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 11 2013 11:41 GMT
#53
On February 11 2013 19:39 Tobberoth wrote:
The problem with feminism is that it usually becomes quite extreme. The name is fitting in this case, because it has sort of the same problem "Yeah we want females to have it better, making them more equal to men... but the ACTUAL GOAL is equality". So the name isn't completely unfitting, but it's "extreme" and misrepresents the actual goal.

Sweden happens to be one of the most gender equal countries in the world... do you think that means we don't have extreme feminists? Nope. It just keeps going, becoming more and more extreme. In Swedish, like in English, we have gender-based pronouns: He and She (Han, Hon). Feminists in Sweden dislike this, because for some reason, indicating someones gender is bad. So they made up a new word, Hen, which is supposed to be gender neutral. It sounds retarded, but these people actually use it to such a degree that it has started to show up in newspapers etc... Fucking ridiculous. It's only a matter of time until people will literally become offended if you use the proper words.

If feminists renamed themselves equalists and became a bit more rational and worked for the goals which actually matter, such as the wage gap, they would get far more followers and have far more impact... instead, they are busy whining about pronouns.


feminists =/= gender theorists
Zest fanboy.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
February 11 2013 14:13 GMT
#54
On February 11 2013 19:39 Tobberoth wrote:
The problem with feminism is that it usually becomes quite extreme. The name is fitting in this case, because it has sort of the same problem "Yeah we want females to have it better, making them more equal to men... but the ACTUAL GOAL is equality". So the name isn't completely unfitting, but it's "extreme" and misrepresents the actual goal.

Sweden happens to be one of the most gender equal countries in the world... do you think that means we don't have extreme feminists? Nope. It just keeps going, becoming more and more extreme. In Swedish, like in English, we have gender-based pronouns: He and She (Han, Hon). Feminists in Sweden dislike this, because for some reason, indicating someones gender is bad. So they made up a new word, Hen, which is supposed to be gender neutral. It sounds retarded, but these people actually use it to such a degree that it has started to show up in newspapers etc... Fucking ridiculous. It's only a matter of time until people will literally become offended if you use the proper words.

If feminists renamed themselves equalists and became a bit more rational and worked for the goals which actually matter, such as the wage gap, they would get far more followers and have far more impact... instead, they are busy whining about pronouns.


I feel your pain on the "Hen" thing.
It was briefly discussed in Go'Morgen Danmark (Good morning Denmark).
We had a good laugh about the absurdity of it and moved on.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 14:57:39
February 11 2013 14:45 GMT
#55
On February 10 2013 15:53 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 15:22 Ianuus wrote:
On February 10 2013 10:46 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Did you guys know there are different types of FGM? As stated in the link...

There's a type where it's impossible for the woman to have a child, but there are types where it removes sexual sensation. Removing foreskin also takes away from sexual sensation. Both, for the sake of cleanliness.

Cutting off a baby's foreskin without his permission should be considered assault or something equivalent, if circumcising girls is illegal.


Except girls don't have foreskins. I don't see why you're trying to equalise two procedures which apply to different body parts on different people.

On February 10 2013 09:53 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
On February 10 2013 09:50 sam!zdat wrote:
because you're not actually advocating healthy masculinity, you're just a reactionary anti-feminist stooge


You're just a reactionary anti-masculinist stooge. That's easy.

Why don't you provide any intellectual argument? Did you know that female genital mutilation is illegal in the US, while male circumcision is not?

http://www.nocirc.org/publish/9pam.pdf


If you think drawing unanalogous parallels, making illogical inferences, and bringing up irrelevant points constitute an "intellectual argument", then I have bad news for you son.


Men and women have the same genitalia, in a sense. The female equivalent to the male foreskin is the clitoral hood. If you honestly think otherwise, get laid.


Erm, no it isn't. Then again, I wouldn't really expect someone who thinks that getting laid is the best way to understand anatomy to come up with a coherent argument, so I'll let you off the hook this time Nice ad-hominem though, it's nice to see people who aren't afraid to use ad-hominems to spice up an argumen-
On February 11 2013 00:16 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Hey, why don't you use your brain to come up with an argument instead of only being able to throw ad hominens? Do you even know what I'm after? Probably not...
-oh wait, nevermind.

On February 11 2013 02:50 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Twitter is actively banning accounts the responds to any tweet attacking either #IneedMasculism or #IneedMasculismBecause

So much for equality, huh.


Yes, I'm sure that this has nothing to do with all the trolls who are using #IneedMasculism to troll uptight feminists.

On February 11 2013 03:36 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
[image loading]

#IneedMasculism because I shouldn't be censored by corporations.
#IneedHumanism because a gender-implied word shouldn't be the standard.


Oh god, do you actually think that that is a result of coporate censorship, rather than an algorithm which displays results based on historic search data? Now I'm seriously not sure if you're trolling or not.

P.S. I'm pretty sure you don't know what humanism actually means.
FryBender
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 16:03:22
February 11 2013 16:00 GMT
#56
On February 10 2013 15:53 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 15:22 Ianuus wrote:
On February 10 2013 10:46 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Did you guys know there are different types of FGM? As stated in the link...

There's a type where it's impossible for the woman to have a child, but there are types where it removes sexual sensation. Removing foreskin also takes away from sexual sensation. Both, for the sake of cleanliness.

Cutting off a baby's foreskin without his permission should be considered assault or something equivalent, if circumcising girls is illegal.


Except girls don't have foreskins. I don't see why you're trying to equalise two procedures which apply to different body parts on different people.

On February 10 2013 09:53 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
On February 10 2013 09:50 sam!zdat wrote:
because you're not actually advocating healthy masculinity, you're just a reactionary anti-feminist stooge


You're just a reactionary anti-masculinist stooge. That's easy.

Why don't you provide any intellectual argument? Did you know that female genital mutilation is illegal in the US, while male circumcision is not?

http://www.nocirc.org/publish/9pam.pdf


If you think drawing unanalogous parallels, making illogical inferences, and bringing up irrelevant points constitute an "intellectual argument", then I have bad news for you son.


Men and women have the same genitalia, in a sense. The female equivalent to the male foreskin is the clitoral hood. If you honestly think otherwise, get laid.


If there are people uneducated enough who think this, is why #ineedfeminism. I honestly thought most people learned in kindergarden how boys and girls are different but ok.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 18:03:55
February 11 2013 18:03 GMT
#57
While I don't like your belligerent tone, OP, I feel strongly that male circumcision is a grievous double standard. A nurse in the UK who killed a boy doing a home circumcision was just set free, despite being charged with manslaughter. Can anyone imagine that happening if the child had been a girl?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276006/Nurse-Grace-Adeleye-caused-baby-boy-bleed-death-botched-home-circumcision-walks-free-court.html#axzz2KRdoGe56
FryBender
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
February 11 2013 18:18 GMT
#58
On February 12 2013 03:03 Mothra wrote:
While I don't like your belligerent tone, OP, I feel strongly that male circumcision is a grievous double standard. A nurse in the UK who killed a boy doing a home circumcision was just set free, despite being charged with manslaughter. Can anyone imagine that happening if the child had been a girl?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276006/Nurse-Grace-Adeleye-caused-baby-boy-bleed-death-botched-home-circumcision-walks-free-court.html#axzz2KRdoGe56


There is no double standard because they are not the same thing. One is something that has been done since antiquity with little to no harm or long term damage. The other is an incredibly invasive body mutilation that usually has life-long repercussions. Yes accidents happen and if you don't need to do it why risk it, but you simply can't compare the two.

As for the nurse going free, that's up to the courts. And you're right if she was doing female circumcisions she would be punished more harshly because female circumsision is not accepted in our society. What's your point?
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
February 11 2013 18:27 GMT
#59
I'm the way I am because I know no one will be able to come up with an argument using sources against me. When you start calling me names and refuse to use any intelligence, I'm just going to either ignore you or tell you what's up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoral_hood

female human anatomy, the clitoral hood (also called preputium clitoridis and clitoral prepuce) is a fold of skin that surrounds and protects the glans of the clitoris; it also covers the external shaft and develops as part of the labia minora and is homologous with the foreskin (equally called prepuce) in male genitals.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin

In male human anatomy, the foreskin is a double-layered fold of skin and mucous membrane that covers the glans penis and protects the urinary meatus (pron.: /miːˈeɪtəs/) when the penis is not erect. The foreskin is typically retractable over the glans. It is also described as the prepuce, a technically broader term that also includes the clitoral hood in women, to which the foreskin is embryonically homologous.


The same fucking purpose as foreskin. Think medical science has been wrong all this time? Well, guess you showed science! Wonder why women have orgasms? It's because men had them, then evolution was like, "oh, let me vacuum this cum up." The penis can be inverted into a vagina, the testicles are the ovaries, they are the same, in a sense. Just one gets testosterone and the other estrogen.

Yes, I'm sure that this has nothing to do with all the trolls who are using #IneedMasculism to troll uptight feminists.


I guess the feminists are immune from getting banned when they troll. Wonder what makes them so special. Oh, that's right, they have periods and get raped. (Even though, legally, before 2012, men couldn't legally be raped.) Remember, it was the feminist who hijacked the tag and got it national media attention. Not the "trollers".

Oh god, do you actually think that that is a result of coporate censorship, rather than an algorithm which displays results based on historic search data? Now I'm seriously not sure if you're trolling or not.


That page was getting MASSIVE hits from multiple sites. There is no reason why you could not find the search AT ALL when it's getting massive traffic.

P.S. I'm pretty sure you don't know what humanism actually means.


I'm a secular humanist. That's my "religion". Want to step on that subject some more?
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
February 11 2013 18:31 GMT
#60
On February 12 2013 03:18 FryBender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 03:03 Mothra wrote:
While I don't like your belligerent tone, OP, I feel strongly that male circumcision is a grievous double standard. A nurse in the UK who killed a boy doing a home circumcision was just set free, despite being charged with manslaughter. Can anyone imagine that happening if the child had been a girl?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276006/Nurse-Grace-Adeleye-caused-baby-boy-bleed-death-botched-home-circumcision-walks-free-court.html#axzz2KRdoGe56


There is no double standard because they are not the same thing. One is something that has been done since antiquity with little to no harm or long term damage. The other is an incredibly invasive body mutilation that usually has life-long repercussions. Yes accidents happen and if you don't need to do it why risk it, but you simply can't compare the two.

As for the nurse going free, that's up to the courts. And you're right if she was doing female circumcisions she would be punished more harshly because female circumsision is not accepted in our society. What's your point?


Cutting the foreskin desensitizes the dick. If you don't think that literally cutting off nerve endings has no effect, go be a scientist because you're so smart. It also causes physical pain which causes trauma at SUCH AN EARLY AGE.

They are both done for cleanliness, for "muh religion", while women are currently "castrated" or their vag stitched up, feminists are advocating the complete castration of all males.

http://grisham.newsvine.com/_news/2012/06/10/12147695-all-men-should-be-castrated-international-castration-day

That may not be a media corporation, but if you simply google "all men should be castrated", you'll find some real support. Now, unless you're cool with that, then go ahead and castrate yourself.
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