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White House officials Jared Kushner and John Kelly are privately feuding over Kushner's access to classified information despite having only an interim security clearance, according to a report in The New York Times.
The report said Kushner is concerned that Kelly, the chief of staff, had targeted him specifically with a recent directive to overhaul the White House clearance system.
Citing White House officials and others briefed on the matter, the Times reported Tuesday that Kushner is pushing back on giving up access to classified information. Kushner's security clearance has provided the senior White House adviser and son-in-law to President Donald Trump with highly classified information -- including the Presidential Daily Brief or "PDB" -- despite the fact that he lacks permanent clearance, according to the Times.
Nearly a year into the Trump administration, some senior-level staffers -- including daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband, Kushner -- remained on interim clearances even as other senior advisers were granted full security access, according to information obtained by CNN from a US government official.
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On February 22 2018 00:22 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +
White House officials Jared Kushner and John Kelly are privately feuding over Kushner's access to classified information despite having only an interim security clearance, according to a report in The New York Times.
The report said Kushner is concerned that Kelly, the chief of staff, had targeted him specifically with a recent directive to overhaul the White House clearance system.
Citing White House officials and others briefed on the matter, the Times reported Tuesday that Kushner is pushing back on giving up access to classified information. Kushner's security clearance has provided the senior White House adviser and son-in-law to President Donald Trump with highly classified information -- including the Presidential Daily Brief or "PDB" -- despite the fact that he lacks permanent clearance, according to the Times.
Nearly a year into the Trump administration, some senior-level staffers -- including daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband, Kushner -- remained on interim clearances even as other senior advisers were granted full security access, according to information obtained by CNN from a US government official.
www.cnn.com
This is possibly one of the most insane things that's come out of the Trump presidency. Kushner is only involved because he's related to Trump, he still has a temporary security clearance in part because his original application was delayed because left more that 100 names of foreign contacts off of it, including some meetings with Russian and Chinese officials, and he has access to some of the most highly classified information the US government has.
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I would love the say that laws should have been written to prohibit this. But laws need to be enforced and I doubt congress would have done it.
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if he had ‘interim’ immigration status he’d have been deported by now. after all, temporary does mean temporary right? by their own logic he should be fairly ready to return to his shit hole.
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This one's a lost cause. If they try to take it, Trump will just unilaterally grant Kushner clearance. Doesn't make the blatant and dangerous nepotism any less horrible or embarrasing.
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I do not believe Trump can do that. He can declassify anything he wants at any time. But the President can’t grant long term security clearance to a specific person at will. Or at least not that I am aware of.
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Sanders mentioned him potentially using "executive authority" to grant "permanent security clearance." Dunno the specifics, but since the majority of what Sanders says is a verifiable lie, then there is a chance she is bullshitting.
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Make security clearance a joke and worthless.
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I checked this morning and any search on YouTube for the more well known survivors is all conspiracy theory videos. Which links right into google search. This is just gross.
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Regardless of what comes of it in the end, I'd be super interested to know what goes into an investigation like Muller's. The whole thing's gigantic, absurdly complex and has pitfalls everywhere. The fact that he doesn't seem to have made a single gaffe yet that would in any way damage the credibility of the investigation is incredibly impressive to me.
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If the Trump administration doesn't know exactly why Manafort is boned, they can't know if it makes sense to "pull the trigger" on any last resorts they may have to protect themselves. They run the risk of screwing themselves over by defending themselves too strongly, but they also can't just let themselves get boned.
I think a big reason this Manafort stuff isn't getting more pushback from Trump is that Manafort has been doing this a very long time and has likely gotten himself out of a variety of tricky situations. He is a seasoned veteran and knows how to play this game. He's played it a long time. I think he may have finally met his match, but Trump has reason to have faith Manafort may end up ok. If this shows Manafort finally got bent over a table, Trump may feel compelled to smash the red button and fire Rosenstein.
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On February 22 2018 02:16 Orome wrote:
Regardless of what comes of it in the end, I'd be super interested to know what goes into an investigation like Muller's. The whole thing's gigantic, absurdly complex and has pitfalls everywhere. The fact that he doesn't seem to have made a single gaffe yet that would in any way damage the credibility of the investigation is incredibly impressive to me.
Considering the secrecy surrounding the investigation, would we even know if he made a gaffe until its exposed during a public trial?
Everything is behind closed doors, we just see a public filing now and then.
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On February 22 2018 02:17 Mohdoo wrote:If the Trump administration doesn't know exactly why Manafort is boned, they can't know if it makes sense to "pull the trigger" on any last resorts they may have to protect themselves. They run the risk of screwing themselves over by defending themselves too strongly, but they also can't just let themselves get boned. I think a big reason this Manafort stuff isn't getting more pushback from Trump is that Manafort has been doing this a very long time and has likely gotten himself out of a variety of tricky situations. He is a seasoned veteran and knows how to play this game. He's played it a long time. I think he may have finally met his match, but Trump has reason to have faith Manafort may end up ok. If this shows Manafort finally got bent over a table, Trump may feel compelled to smash the red button and fire Rosenstein.
Manafort survived because anonymity is safety. Now he's the focus of a serious investigation. It's unlikely he avoids spending a lot of the rest of his life in jail, short of taking a plea deal.
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On February 22 2018 02:37 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2018 02:16 Orome wrote:
Regardless of what comes of it in the end, I'd be super interested to know what goes into an investigation like Muller's. The whole thing's gigantic, absurdly complex and has pitfalls everywhere. The fact that he doesn't seem to have made a single gaffe yet that would in any way damage the credibility of the investigation is incredibly impressive to me. Considering the secrecy surrounding the investigation, would we even know if he made a gaffe until its exposed during a public trial? Everything is behind closed doors, we just see a public filing now and then.
It also seems free of gaffes because we've normalized having a different government gaffe every other day and the Whitehouse Admin is less a leaky boat and more a bunch of water with a few bits of boat in the way.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly. {CC}StealthBlue reports that MSNBC reports that NBC reports that two anonymous sources report that the 'senior member' of the transition team referred to in the Flynn plea deal was Jared Kushner. Am I correct?
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NBC broke the story and MSNBC is crediting those reporters. But the other part seems to be accurate, that is was Jared.
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