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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 20 2018 15:46 GMT
#198921
On February 21 2018 00:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

The last bit is pretty telling.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 20 2018 15:48 GMT
#198922
On February 21 2018 00:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 00:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/965968309358333952

The last bit is pretty telling.


"You morons. If you're gonna assault someone, do it in a hotel room on the 40th floor. I had many many rooms where I assaulted many many women and would never do it in public!"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 20 2018 15:54 GMT
#198923
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 20 2018 16:11 GMT
#198924
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 20 2018 16:14 GMT
#198925
On February 21 2018 01:11 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".

They need to show up every 2 years. Not every four. If they got that voting number up to like 40%-45%, they would be a force that couldn’t be ignored in any purple state.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 20 2018 16:15 GMT
#198926
On February 21 2018 01:14 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 01:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".

They need to show up every 2 years. Not every four. If they got that voting number up to like 40%-45%, they would be a force that couldn’t be ignored in any purple state.


2 years into a presidency is enough time for kids to be like "wait, he still bombs people? REVOLUTION!" and the whole thing goes to shit.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
February 20 2018 16:16 GMT
#198927
On February 21 2018 00:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 00:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/965968309358333952

The last bit is pretty telling.



He isn't even retelling the WaPo article accurately apparently.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 20 2018 16:28 GMT
#198928
On February 21 2018 01:15 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 01:14 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".

They need to show up every 2 years. Not every four. If they got that voting number up to like 40%-45%, they would be a force that couldn’t be ignored in any purple state.


2 years into a presidency is enough time for kids to be like "wait, he still bombs people? REVOLUTION!" and the whole thing goes to shit.

That one is hard. It is a tough sell to say participate, but keep your expectations reasonable. Voting is like long term investing. The change you want to happen is running against all the other people who have been voting for decades. And also you lose a lot.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 20 2018 16:33 GMT
#198929
President Donald Trump’s oldest son is planning on delivering a foreign policy speech on Indo-Pacific relations at an event with Indian Prime Ministers Narendra Modi during an upcoming visit to the country that has been called an “unofficial” trip.

Donald Trump Jr is scheduled to make a trip to the country to promote his family’s real estate projects before delivering the speech alongside Mr Modi, according to the Washington Post.

Mr Trump Jr has a full schedule in India starting Tuesday, including meet-and-greets with business leaders and investors from around India. The Trump organisation has projects all over India, including in Mumbai, a New Delhi suburb, and the eastern city of Kolkata.


www.independent.co.uk
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
February 20 2018 17:02 GMT
#198930
On February 21 2018 01:33 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
President Donald Trump’s oldest son is planning on delivering a foreign policy speech on Indo-Pacific relations at an event with Indian Prime Ministers Narendra Modi during an upcoming visit to the country that has been called an “unofficial” trip.

Donald Trump Jr is scheduled to make a trip to the country to promote his family’s real estate projects before delivering the speech alongside Mr Modi, according to the Washington Post.

Mr Trump Jr has a full schedule in India starting Tuesday, including meet-and-greets with business leaders and investors from around India. The Trump organisation has projects all over India, including in Mumbai, a New Delhi suburb, and the eastern city of Kolkata.


www.independent.co.uk


I wonder if he is flying on the US dime
Something witty
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 20 2018 21:17 GMT
#198931
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 21:32:44
February 20 2018 21:32 GMT
#198932
nvm
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 20 2018 21:37 GMT
#198933
On February 21 2018 01:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 01:15 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:14 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".

They need to show up every 2 years. Not every four. If they got that voting number up to like 40%-45%, they would be a force that couldn’t be ignored in any purple state.


2 years into a presidency is enough time for kids to be like "wait, he still bombs people? REVOLUTION!" and the whole thing goes to shit.

That one is hard. It is a tough sell to say participate, but keep your expectations reasonable. Voting is like long term investing. The change you want to happen is running against all the other people who have been voting for decades. And also you lose a lot.


Yeah, people who only vote while pounding their chests is a big problem. Those people do not deserve democracy. They had the luck to be born when the world wasn't garbage and they take it all for granted.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 20 2018 21:53 GMT
#198934
On February 21 2018 06:37 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 01:28 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:15 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:14 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".

They need to show up every 2 years. Not every four. If they got that voting number up to like 40%-45%, they would be a force that couldn’t be ignored in any purple state.


2 years into a presidency is enough time for kids to be like "wait, he still bombs people? REVOLUTION!" and the whole thing goes to shit.

That one is hard. It is a tough sell to say participate, but keep your expectations reasonable. Voting is like long term investing. The change you want to happen is running against all the other people who have been voting for decades. And also you lose a lot.


Yeah, people who only vote while pounding their chests is a big problem. Those people do not deserve democracy. They had the luck to be born when the world wasn't garbage and they take it all for granted.

The whole point of democracy is everyone deserves the right to vote and collectively we will own our mistakes and successes. The right to vote isn’t earned or gifted, it in inherent to our humanity.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46234 Posts
February 20 2018 22:52 GMT
#198935
On February 21 2018 06:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/966028781998739456


Uhh I'm actually incredulous of this... Doesn't this mean that pretty much everyone sampled is an advocate of additional gun control/ regulations, considering as of right now it's not the case that 100% of gun buyers are background checked (e.g., at many private shows it's not required)? I'm assuming that the question could be rewritten and loaded in such a way that would make at least 20% of Republicans disagree, although I think the question was asked rather clearly here. Either way, there's an insane amount of support for doing something about guns and gun ownership. Next up: abortion and religion.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24152 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 22:57:17
February 20 2018 22:54 GMT
#198936
On February 21 2018 01:15 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 01:14 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".

They need to show up every 2 years. Not every four. If they got that voting number up to like 40%-45%, they would be a force that couldn’t be ignored in any purple state.


2 years into a presidency is enough time for kids to be like "wait, he still bombs people? REVOLUTION!" and the whole thing goes to shit.


Lol, something tells me if humans you cared about at all, were being 9 out of 10 of the people killed by bombs (1 of 10 being the actual target) you'd think "still bombing people" would be a pretty big deal.

But sure, the people who don't vote for that are the irrational ones. Not the ones that still haven't even come to grips with how they are currently being manipulated by US propaganda and claiming it was actually the left that's been tricked.

On February 21 2018 07:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 06:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/966028781998739456


Uhh I'm actually incredulous of this... Doesn't this mean that pretty much everyone sampled is an advocate of additional gun control/ regulations, considering as of right now it's not the case that 100% of gun buyers are background checked (e.g., at many private shows it's not required)? I'm assuming that the question could be rewritten and loaded in such a way that would make at least 20% of Republicans disagree, although I think the question was asked rather clearly here. Either way, there's an insane amount of support for doing something about guns and gun ownership. Next up: abortion and religion.


It's like you couldn't have a more obvious example Congress works for their corporate donors not the 99% of people telling them they want something.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46234 Posts
February 20 2018 22:58 GMT
#198937
On February 21 2018 06:53 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 06:37 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:28 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:15 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:14 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
On February 20 2018 23:27 Plansix wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/students-seize-control-gun-debate-plan-walkouts-march-n849226

If folks have not seen this story, it is impressive to see this coming from high school students. Especially the subverting of the language “This isn’t the time to talk about gun control” to plan a rally a month from now.


This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".

They need to show up every 2 years. Not every four. If they got that voting number up to like 40%-45%, they would be a force that couldn’t be ignored in any purple state.


2 years into a presidency is enough time for kids to be like "wait, he still bombs people? REVOLUTION!" and the whole thing goes to shit.

That one is hard. It is a tough sell to say participate, but keep your expectations reasonable. Voting is like long term investing. The change you want to happen is running against all the other people who have been voting for decades. And also you lose a lot.


Yeah, people who only vote while pounding their chests is a big problem. Those people do not deserve democracy. They had the luck to be born when the world wasn't garbage and they take it all for granted.

The whole point of democracy is everyone deserves the right to vote and collectively we will own our mistakes and successes. The right to vote isn’t earned or gifted, it in inherent to our humanity.


Sometimes I wish that voters would be required to pass a super simple 10-20 question quiz on the most basic and innocuous and unbiased questions about our government and candidates before being able to actually cast their vote.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46234 Posts
February 20 2018 22:59 GMT
#198938
On February 21 2018 07:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 07:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 21 2018 06:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/966028781998739456


Uhh I'm actually incredulous of this... Doesn't this mean that pretty much everyone sampled is an advocate of additional gun control/ regulations, considering as of right now it's not the case that 100% of gun buyers are background checked (e.g., at many private shows it's not required)? I'm assuming that the question could be rewritten and loaded in such a way that would make at least 20% of Republicans disagree, although I think the question was asked rather clearly here. Either way, there's an insane amount of support for doing something about guns and gun ownership. Next up: abortion and religion.


It's like you couldn't have a more obvious example Congress works for their corporate donors not the 99% of people telling them they want something.


Agreed. It's scary. And angering.
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Last Edited: 2018-02-20 23:02:36
February 20 2018 23:01 GMT
#198939
On February 21 2018 07:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On February 21 2018 06:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/966028781998739456


Uhh I'm actually incredulous of this... Doesn't this mean that pretty much everyone sampled is an advocate of additional gun control/ regulations, considering as of right now it's not the case that 100% of gun buyers are background checked (e.g., at many private shows it's not required)? I'm assuming that the question could be rewritten and loaded in such a way that would make at least 20% of Republicans disagree, although I think the question was asked rather clearly here. Either way, there's an insane amount of support for doing something about guns and gun ownership. Next up: abortion and religion.

Welcome to endless money being dumped into red and purple states. People support new guns laws now, but come election time anyone who voted for that bill will be on the primary chopping block, with a new, highly rated NRA candidate ready to take their place. FNMA used to pull the same shit back in the day, threatening anyone who wanted to regulate them(now they are in government receivership, so joke’s on them).

Also, guns, immigration and abortion drive people to the polls. Solving any of those problems is killing the golden goose.
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GreenHorizons
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United States24152 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 23:41:33
February 20 2018 23:10 GMT
#198940
On February 21 2018 07:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On February 21 2018 06:53 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 06:37 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:28 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:15 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:14 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 01:11 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:44 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 21 2018 00:26 mikedebo wrote:
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This is probably why there's some from the GOP claiming that these students have "sophisticated left-wing advisors" "exploiting the children" to "advance their agenda."

Or at least that's how CNN reported it when I saw it at the gym this morning, despite my best efforts to stay away from the American media during my quality time.

I feel like I was extremely aware of the world around me at this age. It's like people forget their own mental capabilities when they were younger.

Someone needs to get with these kids and also tell them they need to start voting the instant they turn 18 in every local election. Find a candidate and own them. The turnout rate for 18-28 is like 20%, mostly because candidates don’t represent what the young adults want. But candidates can also safely ignore them because they don’t vote.


Bush-era youngins contributed a lot to Obama's victory. We will likely see today's high school students do the same to Booker or whoever ends up being "not trump".

They need to show up every 2 years. Not every four. If they got that voting number up to like 40%-45%, they would be a force that couldn’t be ignored in any purple state.


2 years into a presidency is enough time for kids to be like "wait, he still bombs people? REVOLUTION!" and the whole thing goes to shit.

That one is hard. It is a tough sell to say participate, but keep your expectations reasonable. Voting is like long term investing. The change you want to happen is running against all the other people who have been voting for decades. And also you lose a lot.


Yeah, people who only vote while pounding their chests is a big problem. Those people do not deserve democracy. They had the luck to be born when the world wasn't garbage and they take it all for granted.

The whole point of democracy is everyone deserves the right to vote and collectively we will own our mistakes and successes. The right to vote isn’t earned or gifted, it in inherent to our humanity.


Sometimes I wish that voters would be required to pass a super simple 10-20 question quiz on the most basic and innocuous and unbiased questions about our government and candidates before being able to actually cast their vote.


Really shouldn't need to. Problem is that both parties intentionally created this electorate. Through the 60's they could have done something, and they did. They united against the more "radical" elements of the left like the BPP, and others that desperately wanted a critically thinking electorate and would have spent the last ~40 years getting there.

Instead both parties pull every trick in the book to reduce voters they don't think will vote for them. That's the most asshole way to win and the most destructive to society. If they do vote they want them easy to manipulate.

Having people that look at something like the "Thousands of people attend Russian planned protest" propaganda headline that is STILL lingering on The Hill with millions of impressions and thinking critically about it is bad for business. They want an electorate that just swallows it whole and when they get exposed just makes up completely bullshit excuses.

You guys see it all the time when people on the right do it, but many liberals seem completely oblivious to when they do it themselves.
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