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Biff The Understudy
France7811 Posts
Yeah, that’s a good idea. Try to intimidate and bully into submission further sovereign nations with more empty threats, so that we are all sure of how awful you are. If Trump and his court of morons wanted to make appear weak, isolated and impotent, they wouldn’t do otherwise. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7811 Posts
On December 22 2017 02:39 Danglars wrote: I didn’t know the UN was quite that polarized. Let your true colors show, I guess. That, or your guy and the idea you support so enthusiastically is so fucking idiotic that no one on earth thinks it’s a good idea. But no. Let’s blame polarization. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43799 Posts
On December 22 2017 02:39 Danglars wrote: I didn’t know the UN was quite that polarized. Let your true colors show, I guess. They're exactly the opposite... they're quite united. United against Trump's bad call, but united nonetheless. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
Also statements like "we'll watch and see who votes with us" is some A-grade divisive BS. I wouldn't be surprised if those statements contributed to the vote being so one-sided. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On December 22 2017 02:39 Danglars wrote: I didn’t know the UN was quite that polarized. Let your true colors show, I guess. 6.57% of nations decided to vote with the US. 93.63% of nations thought that US was being retarded. But hey, chalk it up to polarization, rather than Trump being a colossal moron. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Seems like the US's most loyal sycophants generally voted "abstain" and most sane nations voted "for" but nowhere do I see a full list of actual votes. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21369 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:05 LegalLord wrote: Anyone have a list of who voted how? Seems like the US's most loyal sycophants generally voted "abstain" and most sane nations voted "for" but nowhere do I see a full list of actual votes. https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-nations-defy-trump-and-pass-jerusalem-resolution-with-large-majority/ Contains a picture of the voting record. | ||
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Introvert
United States4659 Posts
On December 22 2017 02:43 Biff The Understudy wrote: “For those who don’t have our backs, we are taking names” said Haley. Yeah, that’s a good idea. Try to intimidate and bully into submission further sovereign nations with more empty threats, so that we are all sure of how awful you are. If Trump and his court of morons wanted to make appear weak, isolated and impotent, they wouldn’t do otherwise. The resolution was condemning and trying to cancel the exercise of a sovereign nation's right. *** Also someone said something about undermining the aca in the tax bill. You can thank John Roberts, who said it was a tax. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:19 Introvert wrote: The resolution was condemning and trying to cancel the exercise of a sovereign nation's right. *** Also someone said something about undermining the aca in the tax bill. You can thank John Roberts, who said it was a tax. Unfortubately what you're describing is the PURPOSE of the UN. the alternative is a return to the international relations of the 1930s - which I'm not sure Trumpites are opposed to. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:19 Introvert wrote: The resolution was condemning and trying to cancel the exercise of a sovereign nation's right. *** Also someone said something about undermining the aca in the tax bill. You can thank John Roberts, who said it was a tax. Sovereign nations have tons of rights that should never be executed. We have a right to go to war with people, does not mean we should | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:21 IyMoon wrote: Sovereign nations have tons of rights that should never be executed. We have a right to go to war with people, does not mean we should Actually one of the most significant successes of the UN, and one that is also being eroded away, was that they made war illegal. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22727 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On December 22 2017 02:40 IyMoon wrote: What are you talking about? The whole world (minus 9 I guess) Think this is a horrible call. This does not strike me as anything but the world going 'hold your shit, thats a bad call' Okay, that the UN was so united against Israel and their historical claims on the city of Jerusalem. On December 22 2017 03:03 Amui wrote: 6.57% of nations decided to vote with the US. 93.63% of nations thought that US was being retarded. But hey, chalk it up to polarization, rather than Trump being a colossal moron. Lol. You need to recount how the nations voted. This will absolutely diminish the UN. And just the phrasing to pretend they had the authority to declare the US's recognition "null and void?" Yeah, opposition, show your true stripes, sure. I've very proud of how Haley acquitted herself and Trump's decision in general. Any peace deal must include Israel's continued presence in Jerusalem, and the Palestinians must accept that if they ever want peace. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States22727 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote: Okay, that the UN was so united against Israel and their historical claims on the city of Jerusalem. Lol. You need to recount how the nations voted. This will absolutely diminish the UN. And just the phrasing to pretend they had the authority to declare the US's recognition "null and void?" Yeah, opposition, show your true stripes, sure. https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/943874473266094081 https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/943790490587226112 I've very proud of how Haley acquitted herself and Trump's decision in general. Any peace deal must include Israel's continued presence in Jerusalem, and the Palestinians must accept that if they ever want peace. Subjugation isn't peace. If they are to share, they must share as equals. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13750 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:37 GreenHorizons wrote: Subjugation isn't peace. If they are to share, they must share as equals. You should let the Palestinians know that. Its not like they've ever shown any intent in shareing. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:39 Sermokala wrote: You should let the Palestinians know that. Its not like they've ever shown any intent in shareing. In fairness, why should they have done? Their country was suddenly chopped up and given away by British diplomats, it's not like they chose this. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:39 Sermokala wrote: You should let the Palestinians know that. Its not like they've ever shown any intent in shareing. *Isreal aggressively colonises vast swatches of Palestine* "Why won't you just learn to SHARE?!" Lordy. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13750 Posts
On December 22 2017 03:42 kollin wrote: In fairness, why should they have done? Their country was suddenly chopped up and given away by British diplomats, it's not like they chose this. Pakistani's had their country chopped up and given away by British diplomats but they don't vote in politicians promising to throw the hindu people into the sea. On December 22 2017 03:44 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: *Isreal aggressively colonises vast swatches of Palestine* "Why won't you just learn to SHARE?!" Lordy. Do you have any evidence that the Palestinians have offered peace terms of any degree? I'm legitimatly curious beacuse I've never seen any and I would genuinely change my view of the issue if they ever had. | ||
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