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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I'll probably put a couple thousand more into charity now that it won't go to taxes (thank god they took out the idiotic tax on vested stock options). I already max my 401k, max my IRA and put 30, 40k into investment accounts a year. It's money I don't need. There's a good chance that this tax bill gets nuked in the next couple years, so I'd recommend people not get too used to it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I just want to quote this again, because my god, cleaning up after this attitude was my entire life from 2009-2014. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On December 21 2017 03:27 Plansix wrote: The big thing will be that you might get more per pay check due to the withholding changed, but could very well end up owning more due to the withholding changes. I just want to quote this again, because my god, cleaning up after this attitude was my entire life from 2009-2014. Only idiots put themselves in positions where they are forced to liquidate during downturns. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 21 2017 03:40 xDaunt wrote: Only idiots put themselves in positions where they are forced to liquidate during downturns. Most of these investment were liquidated for them. My life focused on dealing with the cities being super pissed off about urban blight caused by inflated property values. | ||
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brian
United States9643 Posts
“If we can’t sell this to the American people, we ought to go into another line of work”. - Mitch McConnell most americans still disapprove of the bill, but this won’t be the last thing Mitch says that is a bold faced lie or false promise. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
And to think people cheered her when she got off the plane last time. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On December 21 2017 03:15 IyMoon wrote: I was under the impression that it was for now. I believe Sanders said so during a briefing i mean this is just flat out wrong the tax bill is for the 2018 tax year | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:02 brian wrote: most americans still disapprove of the bill, but this won’t be the last thing Mitch says that is a bold faced lie or false promise. They are hoping everyone will see the bump in their paycheck and be happy until tax season 2019 when they get nailed because they also owe more. This bill is beyond cynical and designed to deceive. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:13 Plansix wrote: They are hoping everyone will see the bump in their paycheck and be happy until tax season 2019 when they get nailed because they also owe more. This bill is beyond cynical and designed to deceive. Well, obviously thats the fault of the Democratic congress that was elected in 2018. | ||
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Simberto
Germany12023 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22648 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:15 a_flayer wrote: Well, obviously thats the fault of the Democratic congress that was elected in 2018. Exactly. Its giving people money now and hoping they blame someone else when they get fucked over by the same bill a few years down the line. Its a con job, plain and simple. And sadly a lot of people are going to fall for it. Frankly, it should be criminal for a government to bait and switch like this. (and this is all ignoring the utter disgrace that is the healthcare portion, which just lights a bomb under the whole thing). | ||
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Introvert
United States5035 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22648 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:23 Introvert wrote: A follow up to a strangely interesting story I posted earlier. https://twitter.com/JWPascale/status/943561990441721858 So now both sides search through every discounted ballot to find one they can contest in their favor? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:20 Gorsameth wrote: Exactly. Its giving people money now and hoping they blame someone else when they get fucked over by the same bill a few years down the line. Its a con job, plain and simple. And sadly a lot of people are going to fall for it. Frankly, it should be criminal for a government to bait and switch like this. (and this is all ignoring the utter disgrace that is the healthcare portion, which just lights a bomb under the whole thing). The democrats should just use the 2018 budget to cut federal assistance to under earning states that also happen to be Red. Say the states just need to work harder and pull themselves up by their boot straps. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:20 Gorsameth wrote: Exactly. Its giving people money now and hoping they blame someone else when they get fucked over by the same bill a few years down the line. Its a con job, plain and simple. And sadly a lot of people are going to fall for it. Frankly, it should be criminal for a government to bait and switch like this. (and this is all ignoring the utter disgrace that is the healthcare portion, which just lights a bomb under the whole thing). I concur it should be criminal; and the republicans should really be sent to jail for it. we need laws to prosecute such horrible behavior; I don' tthink there are any on the books. | ||
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Introvert
United States5035 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:24 Gorsameth wrote: So now both sides search through every discounted ballot to find one they can contest in their favor? I don't know but I doubt it. The circumstances around this one were a little odd. It involves an election worker noticing the ballot and writing a letter. The Democrats lawyers argued it couldn't be even considered since it was too late. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:24 Plansix wrote: The democrats should just use the 2018 budget to cut federal assistance to under earning states that also happen to be Red. Say the states just need to work harder and pull themselves up by their boot straps. Income given to the rich states trickles down to the poorer states everyone knows that. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:24 Plansix wrote: The democrats should just use the 2018 budget to cut federal assistance to under earning states that also happen to be Red. Say the states just need to work harder and pull themselves up by their boot straps. After seeing so many red state people claim that CA was getting hand outs from them I am all for this. Make a law that says a state can not get more from the fed than they contribute. Bootstrap it up Wyoming you useless shit | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:26 Introvert wrote: I don't know but I doubt it. The circumstances around this one were a little odd. It involves an election worker noticing the ballot and writing a letter. The Democrats lawyers argued it couldn't be even considered since it was too late. What prevents this election worker from being the one to mess with it? | ||
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Introvert
United States5035 Posts
On December 21 2017 04:29 Mohdoo wrote: What prevents this election worker from being the one to mess with it? Nothing I suppose but when they opened the ballot box it was in, apparently it was paper clipped with 2 other "bad" ballots. Apparently he talked with more experienced workers when he was counting it and told others later. If he messed with it that would have had to have been when he was counting it. And the rest of the ballot was straight Republican. | ||
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