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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2017 03:27 GMT
#182401
Twitter is begging to get regulated into the ground. Just begging.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 03:34:04
November 02 2017 03:33 GMT
#182402
considering that political advertising by foreign entities is banned and they were explicitly soliciting business from one... they're probably fucked. or in a just world they would be.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
November 02 2017 03:38 GMT
#182403
Nothing going to happen to Twitter. How else would the Dear Leader be able to shout over the Fake News!
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
November 02 2017 03:44 GMT
#182404
From a ~Russia Collusion~ standpoint, the Ruskie media campaign is not that big of a deal. That the Ruskie's pushed ads in the USA is a form of free speech that voters should be smart enough to see through. If we are going to have broad protections for political speech in this country, then other countries will be able to sneak under that umbrella.

However, the geotargeting data and the adkeywords that the Ruskies used could be the keys to the Russian Collusion theory. The big question is why the Ruskies knew exactly where to target in the midwest. Was Cambridge Analytica piping data to friendly memesters in Russia? That is the big question of the Mueller investigation.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 02 2017 03:55 GMT
#182405
On November 02 2017 12:38 Gahlo wrote:
Nothing going to happen to Twitter. How else would the Dear Leader be able to shout over the Fake News!

They should ban him for hate speech. God knows they’ve done it for less to others. Let’s see some real sparks fly.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 04:17:03
November 02 2017 04:16 GMT
#182406
Omfg
Less than 24 hours before the bill is slated to be revealed, the name of the bill has still not been settled and there is still dispute over the name, according to a senior congressional aide and a senior White House official. The sources said it’s been decided that the Ways and Means Committee will have the final say over the name. Still, behind closed doors, there has been back-and-forth between House Speaker Paul Ryan and House Ways and Means chairman Kevin Brady about the name of the bill, including multiple phone calls in the past week. Ryan initially kicked the naming over to Trump because of his penchant for branding, according to a senior Hill aide. . . . Ryan and Brady have pushed back on the name of the bill. However, Trump has held firm. . . . Trump has been insistent that the bill be called “The Cut Cut Cut Act.”

www.vanityfair.com
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 02 2017 04:18 GMT
#182407
On November 02 2017 12:44 Wulfey_LA wrote:
From a ~Russia Collusion~ standpoint, the Ruskie media campaign is not that big of a deal. That the Ruskie's pushed ads in the USA is a form of free speech that voters should be smart enough to see through. If we are going to have broad protections for political speech in this country, then other countries will be able to sneak under that umbrella.


we're really past believing this right? The notion of the Lockean englightened individual that somehow sees through all the media and political crap hasn't really ever existed. Especially not in this day and age of over-saturation of media. It's not an overstatement to call it a weapon. The Russians have used it for a long time
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 02 2017 04:19 GMT
#182408
The only ones with free speech in america are US citizens. Not sure why it'd apply to Russian ads.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 02 2017 04:32 GMT
#182409
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 02 2017 04:44 GMT
#182410
what are the chances
© Current year.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 02 2017 04:50 GMT
#182411
Pretty good but if they go fro death the appeals prob won't end until after trump leaves office
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24154 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 05:06:09
November 02 2017 05:05 GMT
#182412
On November 02 2017 13:32 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/925457610530283520


What do you find notable about that?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
CatharsisUT
Profile Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
November 02 2017 05:20 GMT
#182413
On November 02 2017 14:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 13:32 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/925457610530283520


What do you find notable about that?


A huge number of Americans who either don't understand or don't like the 1st Amendment is pretty shocking to me. How is that not notable?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24154 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 05:30:02
November 02 2017 05:27 GMT
#182414
On November 02 2017 14:20 CatharsisUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 14:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 02 2017 13:32 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/925457610530283520


What do you find notable about that?


A huge number of Americans who either don't understand or don't like the 1st Amendment is pretty shocking to me. How is that not notable?


I thought it was long established that huge number of Americans don't understand/like the 1st Amendment? Although I'm not positive this question alone establishes this, since I can imagine how a lot of people read it. Regardless, it shouldn't surprise anyone, though maybe Danglars is surprised, but I doubt it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 02 2017 05:36 GMT
#182415
On November 02 2017 13:32 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/925457610530283520


Im actually surprised that number is not higher for African-Americans and Hispanics. I dont share that view but I get how a group of people would not exactly be happy to support a rally with the sole purpose of telling them they are lesser human beings. Being able to say "yes I support there right to do that" while important for our country to function cannot be easy to do.

Having said that if someone who worked for me participated in one of those rallies if I legally could I would fire them on the spot. I support there freedom to do that, but actions do have consequences. I would not have someone in my employ who did not hold the view that all humans are deserving of the same respect and rights and treatment. By the way, when i say all I mean all which has shocked some of my friends when I dont give preferential treatment to a gender or group.
convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
November 02 2017 06:21 GMT
#182416
On November 02 2017 14:36 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 13:32 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/925457610530283520


Im actually surprised that number is not higher for African-Americans and Hispanics. I dont share that view but I get how a group of people would not exactly be happy to support a rally with the sole purpose of telling them they are lesser human beings. Being able to say "yes I support there right to do that" while important for our country to function cannot be easy to do.

Having said that if someone who worked for me participated in one of those rallies if I legally could I would fire them on the spot. I support there freedom to do that, but actions do have consequences. I would not have someone in my employ who did not hold the view that all humans are deserving of the same respect and rights and treatment. By the way, when i say all I mean all which has shocked some of my friends when I dont give preferential treatment to a gender or group.

Good thing you can legally fire them for that.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12486 Posts
November 02 2017 09:39 GMT
#182417
On November 02 2017 06:44 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 06:30 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 02 2017 06:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 02 2017 05:57 Sermokala wrote:
I'm with danglers on a lot of this. I don't participate in this thread as much as I used to because any dissent from leftist viewpoints is responded with insults and name calling first, with actual arguments coming much further behind it. I get it that trump's election gives people an excuse for this but I just don't see the point in trying to be a "reasonable conservative" when no one has any tolerance for that.

There are actually a good number of conservative posters on this thread, if I recall. They just aren't xDaunt, Danglars or RIK, so somehow get bunched into the "left".


Maybe the right needs fewer purity tests

This statement belies such a shitty understanding of the conservative posters (and conservatism in general) in this thread that I don't even know where to begin.


Do you think it's also a shitty understanding of the left to talk about purity tests in the context of leftwing politics and, if you don't, what would you say is the biggest difference that allows you to use that language in one context and not in the other.
No will to live, no wish to die
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10155 Posts
November 02 2017 10:06 GMT
#182418
On November 02 2017 13:32 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/925457610530283520

People who are the target of racism don't like racists, the water is wet and the sun rises up everyday.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
November 02 2017 10:18 GMT
#182419
It's kind of fun to look at the ads Russia placed on Facebook:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/1/16593346/house-russia-facebook-ads

What strikes me though is how little was invested. I've read "more than $100,000" in ads on Facebook, which is is really nothing.

Do you guys often see political ads on your fb feed?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2017 10:22 GMT
#182420


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