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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22435 Posts
September 23 2017 17:14 GMT
#176141
On September 24 2017 02:08 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
I find it interesting he never attacks any of the white coaches who criticize him (Popovich, Kerr, a bunch of others, Coach K, The lousiville coach, the NC coach etc a ton of other college coaches.) I'm curious why this was the thing he decided was too much.

bigmetazltank hit the nail on the head I think. Trump managed to catch him talking back about him, therefor he has to respond. (narcissism means he cant stop himself).
He probably didn't actually see the interviews in which the others criticized him.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
September 23 2017 17:22 GMT
#176142
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 23 2017 17:32 GMT
#176143
I swear Trump is turning into the 30IQ callers that come out of left field when you're listening to sports talk radio. He's taking the biggest Ls when it comes to sports related topics.
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-23 18:23:34
September 23 2017 17:36 GMT
#176144
On September 24 2017 02:08 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
I find it interesting he never attacks any of the white coaches who criticize him (Popovich, Kerr, a bunch of others, Coach K, The lousiville coach, the NC coach etc a ton of other college coaches.) I'm curious why this was the thing he decided was too much.


Who goes to Trump rallies in Alabama? What do they want to clap for? What do they want to hear? Who do they hate? You know the answers to all these questions and so does Trump. When he says to that crowd "get these sons of bitches off the field", nothing is lost on his audience. The Alabama Trumpkin wants black players to shut up and play ball for their amusement. Talk of disparate impacts in policing is just more MLCOON nonsense.

EDIT: FOX is really reaching to reformulate Trump's grievous errors here. Trump is specifically attacking black players for speaking out. Reformulating it into disrespecting the flag is the perfect recast give the excuse to authoritarian whites that somehow this isn't about race.

EDIT2: Trump is still at it. Prediction: Trump keeps this up for a few days and in two weeks Tom Brady himself takes a knee out of solidarity.

+ Show Spoiler +


Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 23 2017 18:15 GMT
#176145
Hey guys - it is SUCH a big deal that Kaeernick took a knee - we all need to flip the fuck out and get him banned from the NFL.

NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 23 2017 18:43 GMT
#176146
On September 24 2017 03:15 Doodsmack wrote:
Hey guys - it is SUCH a big deal that Kaeernick took a knee - we all need to flip the fuck out and get him banned from the NFL.

https://twitter.com/mikefreemannfl/status/911400283602866176

Ironic when not so long ago people had fought fervently to defend the rights of Nazis to march, and spread their message. A genuinely peaceful protest takes place, and they're told to get back in line, salute the flag exactly when and how they're supposed to, and entertain the masses. Because that's not a slippery slope.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
September 23 2017 18:45 GMT
#176147
Trump mentioning Kaepernick's name at the Alabama rally is a great example of dog whistle politics in action.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 23 2017 18:51 GMT
#176148
On September 24 2017 03:15 Doodsmack wrote:
Hey guys - it is SUCH a big deal that Kaeernick took a knee - we all need to flip the fuck out and get him banned from the NFL.

https://twitter.com/mikefreemannfl/status/911400283602866176

He picked the perfect time to relight the fire amongst players - the day right before most of the league has a game this week.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
September 23 2017 19:31 GMT
#176149
On September 24 2017 00:37 GreenHorizons wrote:
Oh man... Inb4 the "how could you disrespect the President like that!?!?!" crocodile tears start flowing



I guarantee you that Trump threw a fit that this got 10x the retweets than anything he ever posts.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 23 2017 19:39 GMT
#176150
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46112 Posts
September 23 2017 21:26 GMT
#176151
Awesome statement of unity, freedom, and equality. Well done, GSW.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-23 21:30:44
September 23 2017 21:26 GMT
#176152
For someone who cares about getting high ratings as a quality so much, Trump sure likes to pick fights with people more popular then him. First hollywood, now sports stars. Its not a fight you can win. Its not a smart play. So the only explanation for him doing it is pure unaltered jealousy.

Also it's pathetic that he as president openly calls for someone to lose their livelyhood for not 'respecting the flag and country' while he condones Erdogans goons beating up US citizens
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-23 21:30:51
September 23 2017 21:29 GMT
#176153
On September 24 2017 06:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
For someone who cares about getting high ratings as a quality so much, Trump sure likes to pick fights with people more popular then him. First hollywood, now sports stars. Its not a fight you can win. Its not a smart play. So the only explenation for him doing it is pure unaltered jealousy.

Also it's pathetic that he as president openly calls for someone to lose their livelyhood for not 'respecting the flag and country' while he condones Erdogans goons beating up US citizens

Which happened for, what I've heard, 3 or 4 times already.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 23 2017 21:39 GMT
#176154
On September 24 2017 04:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/911671699480879104

The Warriors can fuck off (and I'm a fan of theirs). For months they have been openly and publicly discussing whether they're going to go to the White House. Stated another way, for months they have been openly and publicly giving Trump the finger. What exactly did they think was going to happen? My only surprise is that Trump waited as long as he did to disinvite them.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8111 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-23 21:52:37
September 23 2017 21:50 GMT
#176155
On September 24 2017 06:39 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 04:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/911671699480879104

The Warriors can fuck off (and I'm a fan of theirs). For months they have been openly and publicly discussing whether they're going to go to the White House. Stated another way, for months they have been openly and publicly giving Trump the finger. What exactly did they think was going to happen? My only surprise is that Trump waited as long as he did to disinvite them.

I really don't understand either why a bunch of mostly black guys would want to give the finger to a dude surfing on a white supremacist wave who refuses to condemn a KKK leader, appoints a hardcore biggot who wants to put even more (black) people in jail as Attorney General and defends folks marching and chanting with neo nazis.

Shit is so weird these days.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 23 2017 21:56 GMT
#176156
On September 24 2017 06:39 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 04:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/911671699480879104

The Warriors can fuck off (and I'm a fan of theirs). For months they have been openly and publicly discussing whether they're going to go to the White House. Stated another way, for months they have been openly and publicly giving Trump the finger. What exactly did they think was going to happen? My only surprise is that Trump waited as long as he did to disinvite them.

the president woudl be courteous and magnanimous about their decision process, and act like the better man?
yeah, not gonna happen, I know; but one can dream of a president who would; like, most of our other presidents have been.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24049 Posts
September 23 2017 22:11 GMT
#176157
On September 24 2017 06:50 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 06:39 xDaunt wrote:
On September 24 2017 04:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/911671699480879104

The Warriors can fuck off (and I'm a fan of theirs). For months they have been openly and publicly discussing whether they're going to go to the White House. Stated another way, for months they have been openly and publicly giving Trump the finger. What exactly did they think was going to happen? My only surprise is that Trump waited as long as he did to disinvite them.

I really don't understand either why a bunch of mostly black guys would want to give the finger to a dude surfing on a white supremacist wave who refuses to condemn a KKK leader, appoints a hardcore biggot who wants to put even more (black) people in jail as Attorney General and defends folks marching and chanting with neo nazis.

Shit is so weird these days.


Don't forget pardoned someone famous for their rampant and flagrant abuses of PoC's rights. But yeah, it's tarps on statues that is the very dangerous slippery slope and racism isn't a big deal in the US today.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 23 2017 22:13 GMT
#176158
We just have to accept the fact that we elected a man whose inner soul is that of one of those super sweet 16 reality show girls.
Never Knows Best.
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
September 23 2017 22:29 GMT
#176159
Apparently the staff isn't watching DJT today? These are the crybabiest snowflake tweets I have ever seen. xDaunt going to have his work cut out today trying to spin DJT's meltdown onto libs somehow. Those mean old GSWarriors, triggering never-at-fault-grown-ass-man DJT.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4996 Posts
September 23 2017 22:50 GMT
#176160
It'd be great if they both shut up. No reason for a sports team to go the White House, no reason for it to be public debate, no reason for players to talk about it, and no reason for Trump to take to twitter about it.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
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