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On July 17 2017 17:35 Silvanel wrote:
Well if You want to support heavy industry You need to burn something. Be it coal, natural gas or uranium. The need for high output - independent to time of day or weather conditions power plants will always be there.
Not that i think coal is good, but You cant get rid of fossil fuels and nuclear at the same time (unless You hapen to be area suitable for Hydro power).
Well we are moving towards green energy. The transition will take a long time, and no one wants to cut today all fossil energies altogether. What matters is what you prioritize and incentivize.
Incentivizing coal is just completely stupid. You go against history, and you criminally make an ecological civilization threatening crisis worse for no other reason than selling unicorns to some rustbelt communities (for electoral gains of course).
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On July 17 2017 13:26 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 13:15 xDaunt wrote:On July 17 2017 13:07 Nevuk wrote:On July 17 2017 12:47 xDaunt wrote:On July 17 2017 11:30 Nevuk wrote:
Trump is killing the Republican Party
By Joe Scarborough
I did not leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left its senses. The political movement that once stood athwart history resisting bloated government and military adventurism has been reduced to an amalgam of talk-radio resentments. President Trump’s Republicans have devolved into a party without a cause, dominated by a leader hopelessly ill-informed about the basics of conservatism, U.S. history and the Constitution.
America’s first Republican president reportedly said , “Nearly all men can stand adversity. But if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.” The current Republican president and the party he controls were granted monopoly power over Washington in November and already find themselves spectacularly failing Abraham Lincoln’s character exam.
It would take far more than a single column to detail Trump’s failures in the months following his bleak inaugural address. But the Republican leaders who have subjugated themselves to the White House’s corrupting influence fell short of Lincoln’s standard long before their favorite reality-TV star brought his gaudy circus act to Washington.
When I left Congress in 2001, I praised my party’s successful efforts to balance the budget for the first time in a generation and keep many of the promises that led to our takeover in 1994. I concluded my last speech on the House floor by foolishly predicting that Republicans would balance budgets and champion a restrained foreign policy for as long as they held power.
I would be proved wrong immediately.
As the new century began, Republicans gained control of the federal government. George W. Bush and the GOP Congress responded by turning a $155 billion surplus into a $1 trillion deficit and doubling the national debt, passing a $7 trillion unfunded entitlement program and promoting a foreign policy so utopian it would have made Woodrow Wilson blush. Voters made Nancy Pelosi speaker of the House in 2006 and Barack Obama president in 2008.
After their well-deserved drubbing, Republicans swore that if voters ever entrusted them with running Washington again, they would prove themselves worthy. Trump’s party was given a second chance this year, but it has spent almost every day since then making the majority of Americans regret it.
The GOP president questioned America’s constitutional system of checks and balances. Republican leaders said nothing. He echoed Stalin and Mao by calling the free press “the enemy of the people.” Republican leaders were silent. And as the commander in chief insulted allies while embracing autocratic thugs, Republicans who spent a decade supporting wars of choice remained quiet. Meanwhile, their budget-busting proposals demonstrate a fiscal recklessness very much in line with the Bush years.
Last week’s Russia revelations show just how shamelessly Republican lawmakers will stand by a longtime Democrat who switched parties after the promotion of a racist theory about Barack Obama gave him standing in Lincoln’s once-proud party. Neither Lincoln, William Buckley nor Ronald Reagan would recognize this movement.
It is a dying party that I can no longer defend.
Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Jon Meacham has long predicted that the Republican and Democrats’ 150-year duopoly will end. The signs seem obvious enough. When my Republican Party took control of Congress in 1994, it was the first time the GOP had won the House in a generation. The two parties have been in a state of turmoil ever since.
In 2004, Republican strategist Karl Rove anticipated a majority that would last a generation; two years later, Pelosi became the most liberal House speaker in history. Obama was swept into power by a supposedly unassailable Democratic coalition. In 2010, the tea party tide rolled in. Obama’s reelction returned the momentum to the Democrats, but Republicans won a historic state-level landslide in 2014. Then last fall, Trump demolished both the Republican and Democratic establishments.
Political historians will one day view Donald Trump as a historical anomaly. But the wreckage visited of this man will break the Republican Party into pieces — and lead to the election of independent thinkers no longer tethered to the tired dogmas of the polarized past. When that day mercifully arrives, the two-party duopoly that has strangled American politics for almost two centuries will finally come to an end. And Washington just may begin to work again.
www.washingtonpost.comWhile I agree with him, I feel that it all rings a little hollow coming from one of the biggest promoters of Trump during the election/primaries Scarborough has it backwards. Trump isn't the cause of what is killing the GOP. Trump is the result of a GOP that had already mortally wounded itself. He cites most of the right facts above, but he doesn't quite have the fortitude to draw the right conclusion. And I'm not sure why you think that Scarborough was one of Trump's biggest cheerleaders. He never has been. Trump was a constant presence on his show for over a year. He may not have agreed with him on everything, but he did as much to normalize him as anyone else in the media Since when is giving someone a fair shake the same as being a cheerleader? Well, I never said he was a cheerleader. I said he was a promoter. I think he went a bit beyond giving him a fair shake in late 2015/early 2016. Trump literally called him a supporter + believer in his campaign in February of 2016. www.washingtonpost.comYes, they got critical after that, but they were probably the friendliest bunch on TV for a long time towards him. So my point was that I think he's being hypocritical in blaming Trump here, since he bears some amount of responsibility if Trump is truly responsible for the issues he's complaining about.
Yeah, you're right. I wasn't exactly posting sober last night. My bad.
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FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!
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And i thought he wasn't a filthy politician but an honourable businessman, who would drain the swamp? No?
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Delusion at its finest folks. I'm gonna have to stay away from TL since it seems every day there is something newly idiotic said by this guy.
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The man is not kind to his own party. Every Republican is going to get a phone call asking whether they would have gone to the meeting.
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A woman died after being shot by a Minneapolis police officer late Saturday night, according to the state's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.
Her identity has not been released by authorities, but her fiancé Don Damond identified her to MPR as Justine Ruszcyk, an Australian woman who taught yoga and meditation.
Around 11:30 p.m. CT Saturday, two Minneapolis police officers responded to a 911 call of a possible assault in south Minneapolis. One officer shot and killed the woman.
According to the bureau, the two officers did not have their body cameras turned on, nor did the squad camera record the fatal shooting.
Late Sunday afternoon, Minneapolis mayor Betsy Hodges and Assistant Police Chief Medaria Arradondo said they had few other details to share.
Arradondo said following the 911 call, officers were dispatched on an "unknown trouble" call. He said officers arrived at the address and when it became a shooting he alerted the BCA, which now leads the investigation.
The Hennepin county Medical Examiner's Office is conducting an autopsy.
Both Hodges and Arradondo said they are not releasing the victim's name and said that information will later come from the BCA.
But at a gathering Saturday night, friends and neighbors said the victim taught yoga and meditation in the community.
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Raising teenage girls can be a tough job. Raising black teenage girls as white parents can be even tougher. Aaron and Colleen Cook knew that when they adopted their twin daughters, Mya and Deanna.
As spring came around this year, the girls, who just turned 16, told their parents they wanted to get braided hair extensions. Their parents happily obliged, wanting Mya and Deanna to feel closer to their black heritage.
But when the girls got to school, they were asked to step out of class. Both were given several infractions for violating the dress code. Mystic Valley Regional Charter School, north of Boston, bans hair extensions in its dress code, deeming them "distracting."
When administrators asked the girls to remove their braids, Mya and Deanna refused.
The next day, Colleen and Aaron Cook came to the school where, they say, they were told the girls' hair needed to be "fixed." The Cooks refused, telling administrators that there was nothing wrong with the hairstyle.
As punishment, the girls were removed from their extracurricular activities, barred from prom, and threatened with suspension if they did not change their hair.
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Except for the previous time someone was given opposition research and they went strait to the FBI, but this is Trump, no need to let reality get in the way.
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On July 18 2017 01:03 Gorsameth wrote:Except for the previous time someone was given opposition research and they went strait to the FBI, but this is Trump, no need to let reality get in the way.
I honestly believe that Trump believes that anyone would have gone to such a meeting. That man can not even imagine a person with integrity, or even a person with some remote semblance of long-term planning that would make them realize that something like that would eventually come up and be a major problem for themselves.
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Any doubt that Trump would be willing to obtain info on Hillary from the Russian government, know it was part of the Russian government's effort to help get Trump elected, is now gone. But Republicans don't seem very outspoken about that precedent. Wonder if it were a Democrat we were talking about...
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On July 18 2017 01:15 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 01:03 Gorsameth wrote:Except for the previous time someone was given opposition research and they went strait to the FBI, but this is Trump, no need to let reality get in the way. I honestly believe that Trump believes that anyone would have gone to such a meeting. That man can not even imagine a person with integrity, or even a person with some remote semblance of long-term planning that would make them realize that something like that would eventually come up and be a major problem for themselves.
Trump can imagine such people, as he stated in his books. But he thinks they are Cucks.
Trump compared attorney Roy Cohn — Sen. Joe McCarthy's attack dog who became Trump's mentor — to "all the hundreds of 'respectable' guys who make careers out of boasting about their uncompromising integrity but have absolutely no loyalty . . . What I liked most about Roy Cohn was that he would do just the opposite."
Trump continues to prefer loyalty over integrity.
http://www.newsmax.com/RobertReich/kasowitz-trump-loyalty-comey/2017/06/19/id/796988/
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On July 18 2017 01:19 Doodsmack wrote:
Any doubt that Trump would be willing to obtain info on Hillary from the Russian government, know it was part of the Russian government's effort to help get Trump elected, is now gone. But Republicans don't seem very outspoken about that precedent. Wonder if it were a Democrat we were talking about...
We are 48 hours from Trump tweeting: "You are damn right I ordered the meeting. I even read the dirt from the plastic folder. The real scandal is the dirt in the folder."
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A decade after the nation’s top hospitals used all their advertising and lobbying clout to keep their tax-exempt status, pointing to their vast givebacks to their communities, they have seen their revenue soar while cutting back on the very givebacks they were touting, according to a POLITICO analysis.
Hospitals’ behavior in the years since the Affordable Care Act provided them with more than 20 million more paying customers offers a window into the debate over winners and losers surrounding this year’s efforts to replace the ACA. It also puts a sharper focus on the role played by the nation’s teaching hospitals – storied international institutions that have grown and flowered under the ACA, while sometimes neglecting the needy neighborhoods that surround them.
And it reveals, for the first time, the extent of the hospitals’ behind-the-scenes efforts to maintain tax breaks that provide them with billions of dollars in extra income, while costing their communities hundreds of millions of dollars in local taxes.
One example of the hospitals’ efforts to remain tax-free: the soaring, minutelong TV commercial that popped up on stations across Western Pennsylvania in 2009 by the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, the area’s flagship hospital and one of the largest teaching hospitals in the country.
“UPMC is proud to be part of our city’s past, present and, more importantly, its future,” the narrator enthuses, as the camera pans around Pittsburgh scenes of priests, grocery-store workers, even a ballet dancer before coming to rest on the sprawling medical campus — one of the five largest in the world.
At the time, Congress was considering not only whether to remove tax-exempt status for teaching hospitals, a cause of Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), but also whether to add requirements forcing hospitals to do more for the low-income, urban communities in which so many of the top hospitals are located. And local leaders in many states were attempting to claw back billions of dollars in forgone tax revenue — a battle that would soon break out between UPMC and the mayor of Pittsburgh, too.
But the hospitals, aided by their good-neighbor initiative, prevailed. The ACA did nothing more to force the hospitals to share their revenue with their neighbors or taxpayers generally.
The result, POLITICO’s investigation shows, is that the nation’s top seven hospitals as ranked by U.S. News & World Report collected more than $33.9 billion in total operating revenue in 2015, the last year for which data was available, up from $29.4 billion in 2013, before the ACA took full effect, according to their own financial statements and state reports. But their spending on direct charity care — the free treatment for low-income patients — dwindled from $414 million in 2013 to $272 million in 2015.
To put that another way: The top seven hospitals’ combined revenue went up by $4.5 billion per year after the ACA’s coverage expansions kicked in, a 15 percent jump in two years. Meanwhile, their charity care — already less than 2 percent of revenue — fell by almost $150 million per year, a 35 percent plunge over the same period.
Hospitals justify the billions of dollars they receive in federal and state tax breaks through a nearly 50-year-old federal regulation that simply asks them to prove they’re serving the community. (Some states have taken a stricter approach for their tax breaks.) And while hospitals acknowledge that their charity care spending has fallen — pointing to the fact that a record number of Americans are now insured under the ACA — some leaders say the trend could reverse itself if the ACA is repealed.
Hospitals also defend their tax-exempt status by pointing to their total community benefit spending, a roll-up number that can include free screenings and local investments but also less direct contributions, like staff education or hospitals’ internal metrics for when they say there is a gap between what they charge for services and what Medicare or Medicaid pays them.
But in many cases, top hospitals’ community benefit spending has remained flat or declined since the ACA took effect, too. For example, Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, which has been ranked as the best hospital in the world, spent $53.8 million on community benefits in 2015, down from $62.1 million in 2013, even as its total annual revenue went up by more than $200 million.
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He's really fighting for that picture next to "whataboutism" in the encyclopedia, isn't he?
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He needs the hatrick, he allready got liar and sexist nailed.
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On July 18 2017 01:03 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +Raising teenage girls can be a tough job. Raising black teenage girls as white parents can be even tougher. Aaron and Colleen Cook knew that when they adopted their twin daughters, Mya and Deanna.
As spring came around this year, the girls, who just turned 16, told their parents they wanted to get braided hair extensions. Their parents happily obliged, wanting Mya and Deanna to feel closer to their black heritage.
But when the girls got to school, they were asked to step out of class. Both were given several infractions for violating the dress code. Mystic Valley Regional Charter School, north of Boston, bans hair extensions in its dress code, deeming them "distracting."
When administrators asked the girls to remove their braids, Mya and Deanna refused.
The next day, Colleen and Aaron Cook came to the school where, they say, they were told the girls' hair needed to be "fixed." The Cooks refused, telling administrators that there was nothing wrong with the hairstyle.
As punishment, the girls were removed from their extracurricular activities, barred from prom, and threatened with suspension if they did not change their hair. Source
What has anything of this to do with them being black?
Extensions forbidden gtfo.
The penalty seems draconian but else?
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EPT
