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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-11 15:56:28
July 11 2017 15:24 GMT
#161041
Can't help but laugh. Was only a matter of time before something like this dropped. Mueller will be able to determine the authenticity quite easily I imagine, with all the resources he has available.

Couldn't have written it better if it was staged by HRC herself.

Edit: LOL nvm confirmed.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
July 11 2017 15:25 GMT
#161042
On July 12 2017 00:19 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Has America hit peak anti-intellectualism?

Aside from the election of Donald Trump, a businessman born into wealth whose only notable expertise is in reality television, there is now more evidence that the right-wing’s long game of denigrating U.S. institutions to reshape political discourse is succeeding. A new Pew Research Center poll released on Monday revealed that there is one U.S. institution perceived through a larger partisan divide than even the media: It’s college.

For the first time, a majority of Republicans think that colleges and universities have a negative impact on the country. Fifty-eight percent say that colleges “are having a negative effect on the way things are going in the country,” according to Pew. In other words, the Wall Street banks are more popular with Republican voters than Stanford, Harvard or the University of Akron.

Just two years ago, a majority of Republicans, 54 percent, rated universities’ effect as positive. As Pew noted, “this shift in opinion has occurred across most demographic and ideological groups within the GOP,” but in particular the poll found that positive views of colleges among Republicans under the age of 50 sunk by 21 percentage points from 2015 to 2017. While Republican views of colleges and universities remained largely the same throughout much of the Obama administration, 65 percent of self-identified conservatives now say that colleges and universities have a negative impact on the country. Positive views of colleges dropped even among Republicans who hold a college or graduate degree, declining by 11 percentage points during the last two years.

Democrats and independents who lean Democrat, on the other hand, continue to hold a positive attitude toward such institutions, with 72 percent saying they approve of higher education.

Republican politicians in recent years have pushed back on the four-year degree, building upon their long-hyped attack on institutes of higher education as bastions of liberal indoctrination.

Last month, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, held a hearing titled “Free Speech 101: The Assault on the First Amendment on College Campuses.” The Wisconsin State Assembly passed a bill last month allowing college administrators to expel students for “disrupting” college speakers.

It’s likely no coincidence that just as conservatives decry the scourge of “political correctness” on liberal arts campuses, their campaign to undermine the institutions that defend a growing diversity of voices among students and faculty is bearing fruit. Arizona Republicans recently threatened to cut funding by 10 percent from public institutions that offer courses and events that are “designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group” or advocate “solidarity” based on ethnicity, race, religion or gender.

Donald Trump’s threats to defund the University of California at Berkeley following a February melee in protest of right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos’ scheduled appearance harken back to Ronald Reagan’s 1966 campaign for governor of California, during which he pledged “to clean up the mess at Berkeley” caused by “a small minority of hippies, radicals and filthy speech advocates.” The right has long decried the ivory towers of academia, but now that those ivory towers are increasingly filled with members of marginalized communities, such attacks are beginning to resonate with average Republicans.

Between Election Day last November and April 2017, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has documented at least 330 incidents of bias on university campuses. More than 135 incidents since the start of the 2016 academic school year, the SPLC reports, have involved recruitment efforts by white supremacists.


Source

Well, education is a threat to power. Gotta have a dumb populace to rule effectively.
rageprotosscheesy
Profile Joined June 2017
36 Posts
July 11 2017 15:26 GMT
#161043
On July 12 2017 00:19 Mohdoo wrote:
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On July 12 2017 00:17 ticklishmusic wrote:


that lawyer hired yesterday is probably drinking heavily now.


...i don't understand.


The Trump boys are incredibly stupid.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
July 11 2017 15:28 GMT
#161044
These slow drips are beautiful. The Trumps keep admitting to little bits while denying the big picture, only for the next drip to shatter the lie.

How many times do you have to walk into it before you realize you need to keep your mouth shut.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2017 15:32 GMT
#161045
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 11 2017 15:33 GMT
#161046
On July 12 2017 00:16 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
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On July 11 2017 23:54 Danglars wrote:


NYT Brooks outdoes himself with the kind of elitism middle America facepalma at.

I'm from the Midwest. Born and raised. Just got back to Kansas City from San Diego. 4 years I was faced with stuff like this. Didn't matter. I asked the person making the sandwich what that shit meant and ate it anyway. Striata baguette is delicious. This reminds me of the Spongebob episode where he's in the chef exchange program. Not everyone is into fine dining and expensive sounding shit. But at the same time, not everyone is into processed food and fried pickles. Expand your horizons and taste buds.



I'm sorry... but the fool is the person presenting these ingredients as some high end snuff. They are italian ingredients. Had his friend been italian with only a highschool degree and started reading a spanish menu at a mexican joint he would have been faced with the same consternation. it has nothing to do with level of education and a hell of alot to do with exposure to people of different backgrounds and food cultures. The entire premise is insulting that the author associates mexican food with only a high school diploma, when it can just as easily get all gourme'ed up. Man that tweet pissed me off...
I am, therefore I pee
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2017 15:38 GMT
#161047
I wonder how Ted Cruz family has reacted him defending Trump the man who attacked father, daughter, and wife.

At least put a bib on if you're going to give oral on live TV.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
July 11 2017 15:39 GMT
#161048
The author didn't say in the tweet he suggested Mexican. He just said that's what they ate since the friend didn't know the ingredients. I agree that it has a lot to do with exposure though, hence my closing statement.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2017 15:46 GMT
#161049
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
July 11 2017 15:49 GMT
#161050
On July 12 2017 00:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
The author didn't say in the tweet he suggested Mexican. He just said that's what they ate since the friend didn't know the ingredients. I agree that it has a lot to do with exposure though, hence my closing statement.



Sorry, didn't mean to quote you i was trying to get the tweet. And he may not have suggested Mexican food, but the way it is written implies that mexican food is somehow inherently non-gourmet. It creates a false dichotomy between the "gourmet" sandwich place and the Mexican place, because of the prior statements of lack of education and "insensitivity".
I am, therefore I pee
rageprotosscheesy
Profile Joined June 2017
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-11 15:53:29
July 11 2017 15:49 GMT
#161051
On July 12 2017 00:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/884798748152483840


I'd be melting down too. All this work and the kid just goes out and says "yeah brah I shot the sheriff, here's the gun and a selfie of me doing it".

There's no logical reason why you'd admit to collusion AND provide proof that you weren't just talking to a Russian lawyer but a Russian government lawyer. Just keep running with the FAKE NEWS angle. Since you fucking posted it, it clearly isn't FAKE NEWS anymore.

He's initially a dumbass for actually writing all of this down, because The Wire should have taught him that conspiracy isn't to be written down, but he goes out and hands all the proof to the internet via goddamn Twitter.

I have no fucking idea why this guy would do this unless he was trying to fuck Kushner as well.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
July 11 2017 15:54 GMT
#161052
On July 12 2017 00:49 Trainrunnef wrote:
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On July 12 2017 00:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
The author didn't say in the tweet he suggested Mexican. He just said that's what they ate since the friend didn't know the ingredients. I agree that it has a lot to do with exposure though, hence my closing statement.



Sorry, didn't mean to quote you i was trying to get the tweet. And he may not have suggested Mexican food, but the way it is written implies that mexican food is somehow inherently non-gourmet. It creates a false dichotomy between the "gourmet" sandwich place and the Mexican place, because of the prior statements of lack of education and "insensitivity".

It's all well and fine. I get where you are coming from. And I agree with you still.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 11 2017 15:55 GMT
#161053
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 11 2017 15:55 GMT
#161054
On July 12 2017 00:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/884798748152483840


Holy shit I completely missed the fact that Trump JR himself tweeted it! Fucking hell you can't make this stuff up. In what world does this help him or his dad??? Any chance he consulted his lawyer first?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2017 15:57 GMT
#161055
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
rageprotosscheesy
Profile Joined June 2017
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-11 15:58:23
July 11 2017 15:58 GMT
#161056
On July 12 2017 00:55 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2017 00:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/884798748152483840


Holy shit I completely missed the fact that Trump JR himself tweeted it! Fucking hell you can't make this stuff up. In what world does this help him or his dad??? Any chance he consulted his lawyer first?


No lawyer would tell him to do that. Its suicide. It was his best interest to stay silent and let Fox News hand wave this away with the FAKE NEWS angle. That's what Kushner is doing.

The only explanation was that he wanted to get infront of the New York Times, since they asked him for comment, and he decided to post it and fuck some people in the email while he's at it. Manafort is already toast so this doesn't really screw him. The guy that gets screwed the hardest by this email is Kushner and there's a bit of evidence that no one in the cabinet likes the guy from Tillerson to Bannon.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 11 2017 15:58 GMT
#161057
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/07/11/rob-goldstone-publicist-middle-donald-trump-jr-s-russia-meeting-loves-social-media/467413001/

The man behind the meeting between Trump Jr and that Russian lawyer appeared to have publicized it on his Facebook. Buzz60

Rob Goldstone is now in the eye of the Russia investigation storm, and there's one thing we can tell you right off the bat about the entertainment publicist: The man is an avid social media user.

His Facebook profile is full of public post after post about his glitzy lifestyle: check-ins to high-profile places and jetting around the world. And he's been pretty outspoken about his love for Russia – where he travels frequently for work – which is drawing more scrutiny since the news that he arranged the meeting for Donald Trump Jr. and a Kremlin-backed attorney.


These people are clearly inept with technology. I wonder how the trump supporters will spin his tweet...
Life?
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
July 11 2017 15:58 GMT
#161058
On July 12 2017 00:55 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2017 00:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/884798748152483840


Holy shit I completely missed the fact that Trump JR himself tweeted it! Fucking hell you can't make this stuff up. In what world does this help him or his dad??? Any chance he consulted his lawyer first?

DTJ: What do I do with this news headline?
Lawyer: Say nothing. Let us work.
DTJ: I have the emails, should I just release them?
Lawyer: Donald. Trump. Jr. Let us work. Do not do anything.
DTJ: I think I should release them. Be transparent.
Lawyer: ....
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
July 11 2017 16:10 GMT
#161059
It'd be fucking hilarious if this was someone hacking his computer.
RIP Meatloaf <3
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2017 16:11 GMT
#161060
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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