EPTtheir main point is: don't try to pretend the USA is some great place compared to Iran... .it ain't.
i offered him more work and more consistent work if he moves to Canada. He doesn't want to... its too cold. LOL.
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18017 Posts
their main point is: don't try to pretend the USA is some great place compared to Iran... .it ain't. i offered him more work and more consistent work if he moves to Canada. He doesn't want to... its too cold. LOL. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-signs-executive-order-requiring-that-for-every-one-new-regulation-two-must-be-revoked-234365 This doesn't even make sense, for every new regulation, two existing ones must be identified for removal. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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United States7542 Posts
On January 31 2017 02:26 Doodsmack wrote: Looks like we lost a Navy Seal in a raid in Yemen authorized by Trump. Drone strikes and special forces raids on terrorist networks are something I support, and it looks like Trump is willing to get his hands dirty. I didn't realize how many Navy Seals died under Obama but it looks like there were a fair number - https://www.navysealfoundation.org/our-fallen-heroes/ The US also killed an 8 year old daughter of a US citizen in the raid (among 10 other women & children). https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/825812855555518466?ref_src=twsrc^tfw | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On January 31 2017 02:23 JimmyJRaynor wrote: the Iranian guys i talk to every day are laughing at these protests. they don't care. what's so great about the USA? why would i want to be there anyway? my #1 employee/contractor guy lived in the US for a year.. didn't like it and moved back to Iran. he comes to Canada twice a year in the summer. their main point is: don't try to pretend the USA is some great place compared to Iran... .it ain't. i offered him more work and more consistent work if he moves to Canada. He doesn't want to... its too cold. LOL. There's an Canadian Islamic survey and it said the #1 thing they least liked about Canada was the cold weather. On January 31 2017 02:24 Lmui wrote: So, another day another executive order. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-signs-executive-order-requiring-that-for-every-one-new-regulation-two-must-be-revoked-234365 This doesn't even make sense, for every new regulation, two existing ones must be identified for removal. “And we’ll be reducing them big league and their damaging effects on our small businesses, our economy, our entrepreneurial spirit,” he pledged. “And it’s been very badly damaged. So the American dream is back.” ... how is this real | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On January 31 2017 02:26 Doodsmack wrote: Looks like we lost a Navy Seal in a raid in Yemen authorized by Trump. Drone strikes and special forces raids on terrorist networks are something I support, and it looks like Trump is willing to get his hands dirty. I didn't realize how many Navy Seals died under Obama but it looks like there were a fair number - https://www.navysealfoundation.org/our-fallen-heroes/ Avg of 6 a year.I'm not condoning this at all, but it's a lot less than it could have been. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22679 Posts
On January 31 2017 02:24 Lmui wrote: So, another day another executive order. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-signs-executive-order-requiring-that-for-every-one-new-regulation-two-must-be-revoked-234365 This doesn't even make sense, for every new regulation, two existing ones must be identified for removal. Its another campaign promise he made. It was also ridiculed as utterly stupid back then. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
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farvacola
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United States7542 Posts
On January 31 2017 02:55 biology]major wrote: Stupid in it's simplicity, but that also makes it easy to execute leading to more of an impact for small businesses in the next 4-8 years. I know y'all don't like trump at all but atleast give him some credit for actually working hard to fulfill his campaign promises. I mean, that's sort of circular, the campaign promises are *why* people don't like Trump. So he's working hard to do the things that people didn't want to happen (other than ensuring the death of TPP which was pretty bi-partisan). It's also a very reactionary reasoning. You'd probably be saying one of two things right now: * Trump is fulfilling campaign promises, you have to respect that he's getting things done! * See, Trump isn't actually going to do the things you didn't like during the campaign, so you have to give him a chance and see all the great policies he'll implement. The latter of which was a popular argument during the campaign; that Trump only 'meant part of what he says' and what he actually do will be more reasonable. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On January 31 2017 02:58 farvacola wrote: No, it isn't easy to execute because literally every single rescinded regulation will generate a colorable "arbitrary and capricious" claim under the APA given the proffered executive rationale. Stays in the form of preliminary injunctions are going to issue throughout the country. This executive is on course to be in court more than any in the course of US history. This is what happens when populist simplicity meets reality lol. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On January 31 2017 02:55 biology]major wrote: Stupid in it's simplicity, but that also makes it easy to execute leading to more of an impact for small businesses in the next 4-8 years. I know y'all don't like trump at all but atleast give him some credit for actually working hard to fulfill his campaign promises. no. most politicians already try to fulfill campaign promises, so it's not a notable accomplishment, merely average. and trying to complete dumb campaign promises is still dumb. in fact it's even dumber since you can't claim you're just doing it for the politics of getting elected. legal -> the concerns of everyone were being looked at; it just wasn't expressed well so idiots didn't realize that. and mostly partisanship of course. or people having concerns that don't hold up to actual scrutiny when looked at. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8216 Posts
On January 31 2017 03:02 LegalLord wrote: Hopefully next time around the non-populists take the concerns of the citizenry more seriously so that they don't win, rather than just put a candidate no one likes and put their agenda ahead of their chances of victory. Or maybe let's simply hope next time people don't vote for a god awful man with bankrupted morals and severe personality disorders because of their resentment of the "establishment". | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On January 31 2017 02:59 Doodsmack wrote: This is what happens when populist simplicity meets reality lol. I'd rather have someone take action and revise and fix EO's as it goes on compared to status quo turtle pace of government. Then again I find all the good in Trump's actions (sometimes I point out things I dislike), and y'all find only the bad. Politics as usual. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9254 Posts
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United States7542 Posts
On January 31 2017 03:07 biology]major wrote: I'd rather have someone take action and revise and fix EO's as it goes on compared to status quo turtle pace of government. Then again I find all the good in Trump's actions (sometimes I point out things I dislike), and y'all find only the bad. Politics as usual. Isn't that just shutting your ears and only hearing your own message? Again, take something like the TPP that people overall have been pretty fine with being stopped & killed. People overall were happy that Trump followed through on that. It's also a false assumption to assume that Trump has done something that other people should be liking just because he's done 'stuff'. It's also funny, it's like participation trophies on a national level. Like we all have to give praise to someone for doing a somewhat competent job at times. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On January 31 2017 03:07 biology]major wrote: I'd rather have someone take action and revise and fix EO's as it goes on compared to status quo turtle pace of government. Then again I find all the good in Trump's actions (sometimes I point out things I dislike), and y'all find only the bad. Politics as usual. I'd find more of the good when there was more good. mostwly the stuff that's actually decent is recognized as such, and simply goes unmentioned because there's little to discuss. it is tough to find the proper balance between having too much inertia and too much change. but if you're going for rapid change it's a lot better if you know what you're doing. and i'd rather people go through the trouble of making sur the EO's are well-crafted in the first place, rather than needing tons of revisions. part of the point of slowness is to get it right in the first place. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On January 31 2017 03:09 Dan HH wrote: On the bright side, everyone's paying attention and the more dumb shit like this Trump does, the lower the chances of European populists get in upcoming elections Would you maintain this same attitude for brexit and candidate/nominee Trump? I think at some point you just have to realize people love "dumb shit". | ||
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