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B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
I read a lot of conspiracy information the week before the election regarding spirit cooking, possible child trafficking, the FBI being compromised, and I am looking forward to seeing whether there's any real truth to this (it would not surprise me any more). Trump is not just a candidate, he is a movement. Let's hope he can MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:26 Tachion wrote: Hillary currently in the lead with popular vote. Remember all the fuss after bush vs gore? It's gonna be pretty bad this time too I think. You need to get over it, she lost in a landslide. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:21 travis wrote: Sanders would have crushed Trump, and you guys clearly still don't get it. You don't get why Trump repeatedly exceeded expectations (just as Bernie did despite participating in a system specifically stacked against him). It astonishes me how people are vastly underestimating the truth of this and instead continue to call all Trump supporters racists, xenophobes, misogynists and so forth. People have to recognize that those who voted for Trump do have legitimate concerns that should be addressed, and especially look at the reasoning of people who didn't want to vote for Hillary. Ignore the suggestion in your head (or fact, if you like) that Trump is completely batshit insane and is essentially wrong on all levels in terms of policy. Policy is almost irrelevant to at least some of those reasons, anyway. I say this as someone who hates the character of Trump with her whole being. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:29 zeo wrote: You need to get over it, she lost in a landslide. What? She lost, but this is far away from a landslide. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4768 Posts
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parkufarku
882 Posts
They would've had my vote if they played fair & square. You reap what you sow. A ton of other Bernie supporters were disillusioned and wanted to watch US burn for playing dirty. Bernie did really well with white working class. Guess which group of ppl just voted Trump into the white house? Where is Plansix now? | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:21 Furikawari wrote: Dismantling nuclear weapon will never happen as long as Putin is here, sadly. Maybe you actually want to read up on things before you throw statements like this around, since it's completely wrong. And easy to read up on top (3 second google revealed disarmament of Typhoon class subs, which are the biggest nuclear subs in the world). Secondly: The only actual potential military threat the Russians have are the nuclear weapons. If US-Russia relationships are repaired, perhaps they can both get back to slowly dismantling them. Although somehow I don't see Trump pushing for this. Same goes for any other country, if you try to be smart. What else would be a potential threat. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Alright Germany you're the leader now, good luck. https://twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/796341723089817600 Please no. Never went well when Germany tried out leading. Come one Trump, show us the way of making things great again, but dont let us here alone. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Wasn't expecting female vote to be that high for trump. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:39 Reaps wrote: https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/status/796341724918517761 Wasn't expecting female vote to be that high for trump. Trump won 60% of white females. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:39 Reaps wrote: https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/status/796341724918517761 Wasn't expecting female vote to be that high for trump. It might surprise you how many women look at yet another man being a pig and shrug. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46158 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:29 zeo wrote: You need to get over it, she lost in a landslide. It's not an electoral landslide. That being said, regardless of whether or not Clinton wins the popular vote, it doesn't matter. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:29 zeo wrote: You need to get over it, she lost in a landslide. Just making an observation dude. There was a lot of discussion about the EC after that election, you don't think there will be this time too? Of course nothing will come of it, but it's still a narrative that's gonna be played out for awhile to come. | ||
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
What makes this result so scary is that I have literally no idea - nobody does; this is so far as I can tell without precedent - what a person like that does when he's behind the wheel in the Oval Office. What does 'winning' look like from there? | ||
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Penev
28534 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:29 a_flayer wrote: It astonishes me how people are vastly underestimating the truth of this and instead continue to call all Trump supporters racists, xenophobes, misogynists and so forth. People have to recognize that people who voted for Trump do have legitimate concerns that should be addressed, and especially look at the reasoning of people didn't want to vote for Hillary. Ignore the suggestion in your head (or fact, if you like) that Trump is completely batshit insane and is essentially wrong on all levels in terms of policy. Policy is almost irrelevant to at least some of those reasons, anyway. They didn't just vote Trump they voted republican as well. Why do that? The way the Republican Party behaved during Obama's presidency is disgusting yet they punished the Democrats. People are not necessarily racist, misogynist etc (but apparently don't care about a candidate making such remarks) but they surely are ignorant. And no not just in the States. En masse, people constantly vote against their own interests because of populist tactics of fear and nationalism meanwhile these people offer nothing to actually help solve any real problems they may suffer from. As an example in the Netherlands the biggest party after the financial crises has always been the one who'd support the system that caused it the most. Why? 2 reasons. 1. They are ignorant of this fact. 2. This party actively tries to be a more reasonable option for "Dutch Trump" by making harsh statements about immigration. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On November 09 2016 22:45 Umpteen wrote: Maybe I'm wrong - I hope so - but Trump has always struck me as someone who wanted to win purely for the sake of being a winner. Expediency has been the hallmark of his campaign. I have never had any sense that he actually grasps - or even cares about - the real short, medium and long-term challenges facing America and the world, much less has any kind of plan for addressing them. It's all about making the deal, telling people what they want to hear and getting the sale. Does he really think tearing up international treaties on climate change and ramping back up natural gas production is going to revitalise economies blighted by the downturn in fossil fuels? I honestly don't think he cares. What matters is that the people he was targeting think it would. What makes this result so scary is that I have literally no idea - nobody does; this is so far as I can tell without precedent - what a person like that does when he's behind the wheel in the Oval Office. What does 'winning' look like from there? It is indeed a terrifying notion. You guys reconsidering leaving at all? Maybe the EU doesn't seem to bad now that there's this potential madman in office across the pond? | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32749 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46158 Posts
1. Obamacare will be repealed? 2. Abortion may be nationally outlawed? 3. The climate change conversation is over? 4. Gay marriage might be repealed? 5. ??? | ||
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