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On October 31 2016 14:41 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:34 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not? Not particularly, I just said i hope it ain't real but who knows with this crazy election.If you want to be on the side of it being real I'm up for it but being temp banned would be the least of our issues if it's legit. so you continue to post stuff you won't stand by. sounds good to me. On the contrary I put another $100 in bets on the election yesterday.$70 on Trump winning Ohio at 1.53 and $30 on him winning NH at 4.30.Combine with the bets i made last month and Ive got $260 on the outcome.I put my money where my mouth is, the biggest obstacle to a trump victory now is some kind of huge scandal that postpones the election.Clinton cannot win this and it amazes me some people are still clinging on to that hope.
I'd say biggest obstacle to a trump victory is reality, but we all know you live in your own version of it anyway. Perhaps on the 8th you and the reality that exists will finally meet?
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I'll be very disappointed if repeating the word "emails" over and over in the last two weeks with no substance behind it actually swings this election.
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On October 31 2016 14:47 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:41 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:34 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not? Not particularly, I just said i hope it ain't real but who knows with this crazy election.If you want to be on the side of it being real I'm up for it but being temp banned would be the least of our issues if it's legit. so you continue to post stuff you won't stand by. sounds good to me. On the contrary I put another $100 in bets on the election yesterday.$70 on Trump winning Ohio at 1.53 and $30 on him winning NH at 4.30.Combine with the bets i made last month and Ive got $260 on the outcome.I put my money where my mouth is, the biggest obstacle to a trump victory now is some kind of huge scandal that postpones the election.Clinton cannot win this and it amazes me some people are still clinging on to that hope. I'd say biggest obstacle to a trump victory is reality, but we all know you live in your own version of it anyway. Perhaps on the 8th you and the reality that exists will finally meet?
No, they won't meet. On the 9th he'll post some blog post about how Soros rigged the election
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On October 31 2016 14:53 Aquanim wrote:
I'll be very disappointed if repeating the word "emails" over and over in the last two weeks with no substance behind it actually swings this election.
I don't think this is going to actually convince enough people for it to matter. But this shit isn't going away on November 9 either.
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On October 31 2016 14:53 Aquanim wrote:
I'll be very disappointed if repeating the word "emails" over and over in the last two weeks with no substance behind it actually swings this election.
It's more likely that it just poisons the well for everything to come.
If Wikileaks actually wanted this to affect the election outcome, they would have dropped this supposed "last bomb" about 2-3 weeks earlier. Though really it's more likely they actually had nothing up to this point and were blowing hot air.
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On October 31 2016 15:39 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:53 Aquanim wrote:
I'll be very disappointed if repeating the word "emails" over and over in the last two weeks with no substance behind it actually swings this election. It's more likely that it just poisons the well for everything to come. If Wikileaks actually wanted this to affect the election outcome, they would have dropped this supposed "last bomb" about 2-3 weeks earlier. Though really it's more likely they actually had nothing up to this point and were blowing hot air.
I could also see an alternative scenario under which Wikileaks and/or their benefactors aren't really hoping for Trump to win, and they just want to make life difficult for Hillary. At this point if there is a true bombshell I'd save it for later.
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On October 31 2016 14:09 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 13:16 GreenHorizons wrote:...
Oh I agree that whatever he pushes would probably be disastrous, but that's not the point. It's just some grade school level trolling from CTR, though maybe I'm just expecting too much from the "when they go low, we go high" crowd.
... Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "we go high" statement was made by Clinton, not CTR, wasn't it?In any case, holding a candidate or their campaign responsible for everything said by everybody who supports them is not a reasonable position. Expecting everybody associated with or supporting the Democrats or Clinton to be pure as the snow is white seems like a ridiculous position to hold. EDIT: Yes, you could twist this into Trump not being responsible for what Flynn says, if you like. I think that would be a false equivalence, though I am not familiar in detail with how Flynn's relationship to the Trump campaign compares with CTR's relationship to Clinton's.
How familiar are you with the relationship between CTR and Clinton side of that equation?
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On October 31 2016 14:47 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:41 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:34 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not? Not particularly, I just said i hope it ain't real but who knows with this crazy election.If you want to be on the side of it being real I'm up for it but being temp banned would be the least of our issues if it's legit. so you continue to post stuff you won't stand by. sounds good to me. On the contrary I put another $100 in bets on the election yesterday.$70 on Trump winning Ohio at 1.53 and $30 on him winning NH at 4.30.Combine with the bets i made last month and Ive got $260 on the outcome.I put my money where my mouth is, the biggest obstacle to a trump victory now is some kind of huge scandal that postpones the election.Clinton cannot win this and it amazes me some people are still clinging on to that hope. I'd say biggest obstacle to a trump victory is reality, but we all know you live in your own version of it anyway. Perhaps on the 8th you and the reality that exists will finally meet?
I feel you are exaggerating a lot there. The polls say that Clinton wins, but not all of them. There's also two differently working computer models that don't use polls and they both say Trump should win.
Those models were historically excellent in predicting outcomes, but this current election is of course super weird so they might not work. There's HRC being unpopular with nearly everyone, while DJT has a bunch of crazy enthusiastic followers and a lot of people that really, really hate him. The media behaves strange this time with their coverage, seems unusually partisan and probably alienates groups of readers/viewers more than normal.
Then again this strangeness isn't only sabotaging the computer models. The polls are perhaps also broken by it. The polls seem to use turnout data from past elections, from 2012, 2008, to weigh the Rep/Dem/Independent samples. This time turnout could be very different and unpredictable because of the weird popularity and unpopularity of HRC and DJT and the polls could then be very off.
All of this was the situation from before this new FBI fiasco, and with that it's now perhaps really completely fucked with the predictions.
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On October 31 2016 15:44 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:09 Aquanim wrote:On October 31 2016 13:16 GreenHorizons wrote:...
Oh I agree that whatever he pushes would probably be disastrous, but that's not the point. It's just some grade school level trolling from CTR, though maybe I'm just expecting too much from the "when they go low, we go high" crowd.
... Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "we go high" statement was made by Clinton, not CTR, wasn't it?In any case, holding a candidate or their campaign responsible for everything said by everybody who supports them is not a reasonable position. Expecting everybody associated with or supporting the Democrats or Clinton to be pure as the snow is white seems like a ridiculous position to hold. EDIT: Yes, you could twist this into Trump not being responsible for what Flynn says, if you like. I think that would be a false equivalence, though I am not familiar in detail with how Flynn's relationship to the Trump campaign compares with CTR's relationship to Clinton's. How familiar are you with the relationship between CTR and Clinton side of that equation?
I think that would be a felony if they coordinated stuff? So you'd hope there would be no relationship there.
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On October 31 2016 15:44 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:09 Aquanim wrote:On October 31 2016 13:16 GreenHorizons wrote:...
Oh I agree that whatever he pushes would probably be disastrous, but that's not the point. It's just some grade school level trolling from CTR, though maybe I'm just expecting too much from the "when they go low, we go high" crowd.
... Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "we go high" statement was made by Clinton, not CTR, wasn't it?In any case, holding a candidate or their campaign responsible for everything said by everybody who supports them is not a reasonable position. Expecting everybody associated with or supporting the Democrats or Clinton to be pure as the snow is white seems like a ridiculous position to hold. EDIT: Yes, you could twist this into Trump not being responsible for what Flynn says, if you like. I think that would be a false equivalence, though I am not familiar in detail with how Flynn's relationship to the Trump campaign compares with CTR's relationship to Clinton's. How familiar are you with the relationship between CTR and Clinton side of that equation?
Mostly what I just Googled, namely that CTR is a super PAC which supports Clinton.
I just don't really see what the point you're trying to make with this is. Politics is dirty. If you want to complain about that, fine, but using that as a point to attack only Clinton as opposed to every other politican in your country and mine is not reasonable.
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On October 31 2016 14:41 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:34 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not? Not particularly, I just said i hope it ain't real but who knows with this crazy election.If you want to be on the side of it being real I'm up for it but being temp banned would be the least of our issues if it's legit. so you continue to post stuff you won't stand by. sounds good to me. On the contrary I put another $100 in bets on the election yesterday.$70 on Trump winning Ohio at 1.53 and $30 on him winning NH at 4.30.Combine with the bets i made last month and Ive got $260 on the outcome.I put my money where my mouth is, the biggest obstacle to a trump victory now is some kind of huge scandal that postpones the election.Clinton cannot win this and it amazes me some people are still clinging on to that hope.
You refused to increase our bet from $20 to $50 a few weeks ago -- are you now willing to reconsider and agree to the increase?
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On October 31 2016 15:48 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 15:44 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 31 2016 14:09 Aquanim wrote:On October 31 2016 13:16 GreenHorizons wrote:...
Oh I agree that whatever he pushes would probably be disastrous, but that's not the point. It's just some grade school level trolling from CTR, though maybe I'm just expecting too much from the "when they go low, we go high" crowd.
... Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "we go high" statement was made by Clinton, not CTR, wasn't it?In any case, holding a candidate or their campaign responsible for everything said by everybody who supports them is not a reasonable position. Expecting everybody associated with or supporting the Democrats or Clinton to be pure as the snow is white seems like a ridiculous position to hold. EDIT: Yes, you could twist this into Trump not being responsible for what Flynn says, if you like. I think that would be a false equivalence, though I am not familiar in detail with how Flynn's relationship to the Trump campaign compares with CTR's relationship to Clinton's. How familiar are you with the relationship between CTR and Clinton side of that equation? I think that would be a felony if they coordinated stuff? So you'd hope there would be no relationship there.
They most certainly coordinate. You can check the Podesta emails too
On Tuesday, Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton rapid-response operation, announced it was splitting off from its parent American Bridge and will work in coordination with the Clinton campaign as a stand-alone super PAC. The group’s move was first reported by the New York Times.
That befuddled many campaign finance experts, who noted that super PACs, by definition, are political committees that solely do independent expenditures, which cannot be coordinated with a candidate or political party. Several said the relationship between the campaign and the super PAC would test the legal limits.
But Correct the Record believes it can avoid the coordination ban by relying on a 2006 Federal Election Commission regulation that declared that content posted online for free, such as blogs, is off limits from regulation. The “Internet exemption” said that such free postings do not constitute campaign expenditures, allowing independent groups to consult with candidates about the content they post on their sites. By adopting the measure, the FEC limited its online jurisdiction to regulating paid political ads.
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This is part of what I've been railing about when it comes to campaign finance. She's abusing it on a level only comparable to Obama's, and we're supposed to believe her more muted promises on reform and repealing of a modest reform Obama established at the DNC is a harbinger of more positive reform than Obama brought us. It'd be a joke if people weren't taking it seriously.
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650,000 emails to scour... did Carlos Danger sign up for every single fucking thing on the internet?
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On October 31 2016 14:53 Aquanim wrote:
I'll be very disappointed if repeating the word "emails" over and over in the last two weeks with no substance behind it actually swings this election.
People have become like Pavlov's dogs because of all the exposure to propaganda. if some one says that they have 600 000 emails, some one else can invent 600 000 crimes and if you refute a couple of them they can just recycle the others ad nauseum.
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Breaking News - war crimes are happening in Syria
people surprised - no one
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On October 31 2016 14:47 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:41 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:34 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not? Not particularly, I just said i hope it ain't real but who knows with this crazy election.If you want to be on the side of it being real I'm up for it but being temp banned would be the least of our issues if it's legit. so you continue to post stuff you won't stand by. sounds good to me. On the contrary I put another $100 in bets on the election yesterday.$70 on Trump winning Ohio at 1.53 and $30 on him winning NH at 4.30.Combine with the bets i made last month and Ive got $260 on the outcome.I put my money where my mouth is, the biggest obstacle to a trump victory now is some kind of huge scandal that postpones the election.Clinton cannot win this and it amazes me some people are still clinging on to that hope. I'd say biggest obstacle to a trump victory is reality
The reality is the democratic candidate just had her case re-opened by the FBI 11 days before the election.
Let's just let that sink in around here.
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On October 31 2016 20:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Breaking News - war crimes are happening in Syria people surprised - no one
Oh but the US is so mighty when calling out the regime and russian war crimes but so silent when the rebels are doing similar stuff. But how the media has been reporting this battles you should be surprised by seeing a pro-western source talking about it so openly, not usual... so it's a big surprise even for us following the war since it's inception.
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On October 31 2016 20:15 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 20:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Breaking News - war crimes are happening in Syria people surprised - no one Oh but the US is so mighty when calling out the regime and russian war crimes but so silent when the rebels are doing similar stuff. But how the media has been reporting this battles you should be surprised by seeing a pro-western source talking about it so openly, not usual... so it's a big surprise even for us following the war since it's inception.
Breaking News - people have double standards in politics
people surprised - no one
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Dang i am sad, trump is still going to get destroyed but he is only going to lose by obama vs romney lvs. Trump needs to be destroyed by like a 400+ EC votes to really put the very dangerous parts of his supporters in there place. Now they will stick around and we will still have a non functioning republican party
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