|
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up! NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action. |
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On October 31 2016 13:11 Falling wrote:
It had better be good, because the speculation is pretty hard to beat at this point: in the absence of facts, flights of fancy spring forth. People are already talking about the Wiener emails revealing that the Clintons are involved in an international child slavery/ sex ring.
The truth will out, but it can't out fast enough as far as I am concerned because it's getting pretty insane.
Wienergate 2016 gogo
|
On October 31 2016 12:13 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
The real impact Biden would have had is that many Black people wanted to vote for someone besides Hillary or Bernie and Biden is who they were calling for. Biden getting in and upsetting Hillary's black "firewall" would have changed the nomination process in ways I don't think we can really predict. That is an excellent point. I wonder how well he would have been polling in that event... Probably impossible to know. I'm curious GH; how would you have felt about a Biden candidacy? I assume you would still have supported Bernie, but would you be happier with the ticket if it had been Biden instead of Clinton?
Even if Biden was just a different face on the exact same policy as Clinton, I'd rather have Joe sell it to me, so yeah. Joe's got his own problems, but at least he can convince me he genuinely relates to people's struggles (whether he does or not).
On October 31 2016 12:17 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 12:11 oBlade wrote:On October 31 2016 12:07 Aquanim wrote:On October 31 2016 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 31 2016 11:46 Plansix wrote:
No screened this text before Flynn decided to read it. Seems pretty obvious with the "400 years" that he's talking about the lasting impacts of a presidency, say, like Lincoln's presidency has had impacts that have far outlived him. Doesn't surprise me one bit to see the CTR troll crowd hop on it like he's running to be dictator till death. The guy is the worst candidate in history, you shouldn't have to make stuff up and exaggerate to beat him. <shrug> even interpreted in the way it was intended, I don't want to see US politics influenced by Trump for 40 or 400 years, and trying to claim a single election (which at best for Trump will be close) as a mandate for change of that sort is pretty disturbing. Was it so disturbing to you with Reagan, JFK, FDR, and as GH pointed out, Lincoln? I'm not especially familiar with the nitty-gritty of what any of them were promising before the election, so I'm going to have to partially pass on that question. That being said, my understanding is that none of them were pushing things nearly as fucked up as what Trump passes off as policies.
Oh I agree that whatever he pushes would probably be disastrous, but that's not the point. It's just some grade school level trolling from CTR, though maybe I'm just expecting too much from the "when they go low, we go high" crowd.
On October 31 2016 13:11 Falling wrote:
It had better be good, because the speculation is pretty hard to beat at this point: in the absence of facts, flights of fancy spring forth. People are already talking about the Wiener emails revealing that the Clintons are involved in an international child slavery/ sex ring.
The truth will out, but it can't out fast enough as far as I am concerned because it's getting pretty insane.
I sincerely doubt they are, but I can't help but wonder how many Hillary supporters would make the case that we should still vote for Hillary despite her involvement in a child slavery/sex ring.
If any wouldn't, I'd love to here what they would do instead.
|
Canada11347 Posts
Biden was my pick in the 2008 race, and I was happy Obama picked him for VP: "Joe's right". I would have wholeheartedly endorsed a Biden run, warts and all.
I sincerely doubt they are, but I can't help but wonder how many Hillary supporters would make the case that we should still vote for Hillary despite her involvement in a child slavery/sex ring.
I would have to think that would be a line few would cross. I certainly would not and would vote third party instead.
|
United Kingdom13775 Posts
We almost had one of the regulars hop off the Hillary train after the DNC leaks. But I'm sure they will ultimately convince themselves that they must defeat Trump no matter the costs, no matter how bad the candidate actually is.
|
On October 31 2016 13:19 Falling wrote:Biden was my pick in the 2008 race, and I was happy Obama picked him for VP: "Joe's right". I would have wholeheartedly endorsed a Biden run, warts and all. Show nested quote +I sincerely doubt they are, but I can't help but wonder how many Hillary supporters would make the case that we should still vote for Hillary despite her involvement in a child slavery/sex ring.
I would have to think that would be a line few would cross. I certainly would not and would vote third party instead.
So vote for Trump then? I'm not so sure that'd be the most popular response?
|
United Kingdom13775 Posts
You know, all things considered it's really amazing that this race isn't exactly over. I guess when you have two candidates this bad, anything can happen.
So electable.
|
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false.
|
On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false.
Lol, where the fuck did you hear that?
|
Canada11347 Posts
On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that?
Likely same places I did. Different alt right sites are circulating some tweets supposedly of people with contacts with insider knowledge within the FBI. Your mileage may vary as to the trustworthy nature of said tweets.
|
On October 31 2016 13:16 GreenHorizons wrote:...
Oh I agree that whatever he pushes would probably be disastrous, but that's not the point. It's just some grade school level trolling from CTR, though maybe I'm just expecting too much from the "when they go low, we go high" crowd.
...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "we go high" statement was made by Clinton, not CTR, wasn't it?
In any case, holding a candidate or their campaign responsible for everything said by everybody who supports them is not a reasonable position. Expecting everybody associated with or supporting the Democrats or Clinton to be pure as the snow is white seems like a ridiculous position to hold.
EDIT: Yes, you could twist this into Trump not being responsible for what Flynn says, if you like. I think that would be a false equivalence, though I am not familiar in detail with how Flynn's relationship to the Trump campaign compares with CTR's relationship to Clinton's.
|
On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false.
We already know Mr. Clinton was chummy with Jeffrey Epstein. I really doubt anything implicating exists.
I'm betting on some more ho-hum Podesta acting like a soulless political operative with a dash of reporters crossing ethical lines.
On October 31 2016 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:Seems pretty obvious with the "400 years" that he's talking about the lasting impacts of a presidency, say, like Lincoln's presidency has had impacts that have far outlived him. Doesn't surprise me one bit to see the CTR troll crowd hop on it like he's running to be dictator till death. The guy is the worst candidate in history, you shouldn't have to make stuff up and exaggerate to beat him.
Au contraire. You just mix in the illegitimate lines of attack with the legitimate ones and smudge the overlap.
|
On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that?
@davidgoldbergny on twitter.
Claims source is people within the NYPD
It's no secret that Clinton travelled the lolita express on many occasions : http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-secret-service-on-multiple-lo/
|
On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD
hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not?
|
United Kingdom13775 Posts
I wonder how long it will be until people realize Twitter isn't a source.
I'm not holding my breath.
|
On October 31 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not?
Not particularly, I just said i hope it ain't real but who knows with this crazy election.If you want to be on the side of it being real I'm up for it but being temp banned would be the least of our issues if it's legit.
|
On October 31 2016 14:27 LegalLord wrote:
I'm not holding my breath.
With 650,000 emails to scour through I wouldn't recommend it.
|
On October 31 2016 14:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not? Not particularly, I just said i hope it ain't real but who knows with this crazy election.If you want to be on the side of it being real I'm up for it but being temp banned would be the least of our issues if it's legit.
so you continue to post stuff you won't stand by. sounds good to me.
|
On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false.
A sane theory is that it's again the same situation like in July, just with new documents.
Back then, Comey behaved suspicious in front of Congress. He explained pretty extensively that Clinton did something criminal. While you were listening, you got the impression that he would recommend to press charges. Instead, he finished up by saying the FBI would put the investigation to rest. He said something like "no normal prosecutor" would prosecute.
What happened there is perhaps that he wanted to inform the public as much as he could about what Clinton did so that the public is well informed going into the election. It happened like that because the situation is strange. It's something where lawyers and judge and jury should decide if laws were broken or not and what to do. The problem was just that this takes too long and there's the election (that's why no normal prosecutor would go through with it).
Right now, Comey is perhaps thinking the same as in July. He feels he needs to inform the public that there's something new going on because back then he didn't recommend to prosecute. If this would have been prosecuted normally, he wouldn't be behaving this strange. I assume they now work overtime and then will give a similar overview as in July about what might be in the new documents.
|
Canada11347 Posts
@ticklish
To be fair, I posted more or less the same thing, except that the context I used it in was an example of how nutty speculation was getting in the absence of real information.
|
On October 31 2016 14:34 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2016 14:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:On October 31 2016 14:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On October 31 2016 13:50 xDaunt wrote:On October 31 2016 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
I've heard the rumours about these weiner emails containing something connecting the Clintons to paedophilia but thats just speculation at this stage.Hopefully it is false because that would be downright disturbing plus the likeliest outcome would be a postponed election and absolute chaos.I hope to god those rumours are false. Lol, where the fuck did you hear that? @davidgoldbergny on twitter. Claims source is people within the NYPD hey nettles, want to do a 2 day ban bet on if this is real or not? Not particularly, I just said i hope it ain't real but who knows with this crazy election.If you want to be on the side of it being real I'm up for it but being temp banned would be the least of our issues if it's legit. so you continue to post stuff you won't stand by. sounds good to me.
On the contrary I put another $100 in bets on the election yesterday.$70 on Trump winning Ohio at 1.53 and $30 on him winning NH at 4.30.Combine with the bets i made last month and Ive got $260 on the outcome.I put my money where my mouth is, the biggest obstacle to a trump victory now is some kind of huge scandal that postpones the election.Clinton cannot win this and it amazes me some people are still clinging on to that hope.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
