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Blisse
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
 and they can't claim avoid claiming other people are being partisan in response to things.The more partisan people are, the more they see everything through a partisan lens and don't think others can see things in other ways. Reid seemed needlessly rude in that letter. I disagreed with what Reid did that, that was poor form. also, we all know comey screwed up on this one; though it's more of a forced error, if I understand that baseball term properly. | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On October 31 2016 08:57 Blisse wrote: I don't get any of this shit you guys keep slinging, someone can't make a correct decision at one point in time and then make an incorrect decision at another? Is that just my "Clinton goggles" "spinning the truth" to fit my views? It's ~2 weeks before the election and he releases an extremely ambiguous statement about re-opening the emails, and he couldn't have both been making a necessary, but handled in an absolutely shitty, political way? Like seriously I don't understand you guys. Considering that there are reports of a significant number of investigators/agents underneath him livid that they didn't press charges against Clinton is definitely influencing him. It's equally valid to say that Comey made an incorrect decision before and is now making the correct decision. Like I said, you can spin this whatever way you want. The only fact in this case is that Clinton brought this upon herself so scapegoating Comey and yelling that our Democracy is now dead because not everything is going a certain partisans way is so over the top. You can't see that or you won't? Anyways, my only wish is that Clinton goes to prison and is DQ'ed from office, Trump is impeached, Pence somehow removes himself and the Senate speaker is Rand :p Fun aside, the last few months blew off any remote ground the majority of R's/D's have about how partisan the other side is. They're both equally intolerable. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
If the democrats take back enough seats in the house to have majorities on some committees, they need to give the Republicans a taste of the investigation game. Any mistake or error that could have even the mildest wiff of criminal wrongdoing needs a full investigation. | ||
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Introvert
United States4659 Posts
On October 31 2016 09:05 Plansix wrote: Reid has always had a sharp tongue and he is one of many democrats and republicans to but the director on blast. If the democrats take back enough seats in the house to have majorities on some committees, they need to give the Republicans a taste of the investigation game. Any mistake or error that could have even the mildest wiff of criminal wrongdoing needs a full investigation. Don't you mean forked tongue? Let's not forgot his lie about Romney in 2012 and hedging on whether or not he'd do it again. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21368 Posts
On October 31 2016 09:05 Plansix wrote: Reid has always had a sharp tongue and he is one of many democrats and republicans to but the director on blast. If the democrats take back enough seats in the house to have majorities on some committees, they need to give the Republicans a taste of the investigation game. Any mistake or error that could have even the mildest wiff of criminal wrongdoing needs a full investigation. The problem with an eye for an eye is that before long everyone is blind. No I dont want the Democrats to go that route. Do your job and govern the country for a change. God knows its been long enough. | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On October 31 2016 09:05 Plansix wrote: Reid has always had a sharp tongue and he is one of many democrats and republicans to but the director on blast. If the democrats take back enough seats in the house to have majorities on some committees, they need to give the Republicans a taste of the investigation game. Any mistake or error that could have even the mildest wiff of criminal wrongdoing needs a full investigation. I guess you haven't been around long enough, but that's par for the course whenever one side is out of power. How soon people forget all the investigations and criminal charges against Republicans in power during Bush (Dennis Hastert, DeLay, etc.). Honestly, the only problem here is that not enough people are brought up on charges of some kind or another. The political class in DC is rotten, dirty, and corrupt. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On October 31 2016 08:57 Blisse wrote: I don't get any of this shit you guys keep slinging, someone can't make a correct decision at one point in time and then make an incorrect decision at another? Is that just my "Clinton goggles" "spinning the truth" to fit my views? It's ~2 weeks before the election and he releases an extremely ambiguous statement about re-opening the emails, and he couldn't have both been making a necessary, but handled in an absolutely shitty, political way? Like seriously I don't understand you guys. First of all the blame lies entirely on HRC for her email server and on Lynch for her meeting with Bill Clinton. Now Comey is an unfair position where he has to both do the investigation and come to a conclusion himself. Secondly if you are so worried about the ambiguous nature of Comey's statement, why would you rather have him alter his investigation for the sake of politics, instead of having Huma and HRC have a press conference and state what were in those emails. They know exactly what was in there, but nope they won't come forward for the sake of transparency you so desire. In fact the clinton campaign won't even acknowledge communication between HRC and Huma in this investigation. Either way this is the end of HRC, I refuse to believe that the American people will elect someone under criminal investigation by the FBI. Obama and HRC should both be asked about future pardons as well. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 31 2016 09:10 Wegandi wrote: I guess you haven't been around long enough, but that's par for the course whenever one side is out of power. How soon people forget all the investigations and criminal charges against Republicans in power during Bush (Dennis Hastert, DeLay, etc.). Honestly, the only problem here is that not enough people are brought up on charges of some kind or another. The political class in DC is rotten, dirty, and corrupt. I'm not sure what your point is in bringing up hastert here, could you clarify to what you are referring? bio -> you refusing to believe it is because you keep seeing things through a reality distortion field; and aren't adequately considering other likely outcomes. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On October 31 2016 08:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: No it's a perfect plan if there was/is damning evidence he should have released it weeks ago. Instead Comey doesn't even know if anything is even there let alone if it belongs to Clinton. Then to add insult to injury he only informed Republican members not Democratic ones who found out via Social Media. The document has two pages. The second page has the names of the Democratic members of that committee. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
A reinvigorated Donald Trump thanked Anthony Weiner on Sunday for the disgraced former congressman’s apparent role in the discovery of emails that FBI Director James Comey said were “pertinent” to the bureau’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server. “We never thought we were going to say thank you to Anthony Weiner,” Trump said in between prepared remarks at a rally in Las Vegas — one of three planned for the Republican nominee. Comey sent a letter to Congress Friday announcing a review of the new emails discovered on a laptop belonging to Weiner — the estranged husband of top Clinton aide Huma Abedin — during an FBI investigation into his alleged sexting with a 15-year-old girl. Source | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 31 2016 09:10 Wegandi wrote: I guess you haven't been around long enough, but that's par for the course whenever one side is out of power. How soon people forget all the investigations and criminal charges against Republicans in power during Bush (Dennis Hastert, DeLay, etc.). Honestly, the only problem here is that not enough people are brought up on charges of some kind or another. The political class in DC is rotten, dirty, and corrupt. lmao what an argument. hastert literally diddled kids. what kind of person defends that conduct? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
2016 is a little more bearable with Wiener in the mix. Like the NY Post headlines say, Stroking Gun: Weiner sext probe found Hill evidence Dickileaks: FBI reopens email case | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 31 2016 09:19 Ropid wrote: The document has two pages. The second page has the names of the Democratic members of that committee. Hilarious. Right, because Feinstein, Honda, Leahy, and Cummings are Republicans. What source did StealthBlue have that forgot to read past Page One when they had their cockamamie story of partisanship? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
EDIT: It was this video here: + Show Spoiler + The interviewer holds up the second page of the document at some point. | ||
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JW_DTLA
242 Posts
On October 31 2016 09:05 Wegandi wrote: Considering that there are reports of a significant number of investigators/agents underneath him livid that they didn't press charges against Clinton is definitely influencing him. It's equally valid to say that Comey made an incorrect decision before and is now making the correct decision. Like I said, you can spin this whatever way you want. The only fact in this case is that Clinton brought this upon herself so scapegoating Comey and yelling that our Democracy is now dead because not everything is going a certain partisans way is so over the top. You can't see that or you won't? Anyways, my only wish is that Clinton goes to prison and is DQ'ed from office, Trump is impeached, Pence somehow removes himself and the Senate speaker is Rand :p Fun aside, the last few months blew off any remote ground the majority of R's/D's have about how partisan the other side is. They're both equally intolerable. This wasn't a 50/50 call so you can't say it is equally valid. The recommendation not to indict was unanimous from the guys who worked on the case at the FBI and at the DOJ. Comey say this case was unlike past cases and only 1 case ever has been brought under the (j) "gross negligence" clause of the espionage act. That there were troop-level Trumpkin dissenters at the FBI (no proof they exist and none have gone on record with their names), doesn't mean you can equate the facts. The previous facts compelled Comey's "no-indict" recommendation. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4315 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On October 31 2016 10:10 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: With 650,000 emails to scour through all we know is if Clinton does somehow manage to win from here then this fiasco will continue far into her first term. but we had a verified and credible reporter tell us it was only 3 emails! | ||
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