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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 08 2016 03:05 GMT
#107541
On October 08 2016 12:00 Kickstart wrote:
They can't kick him off per say, but he can resign/drop out. Though there is no way that that is a winning strategy. At this point they are better off just preparing for 4 years of Hillary.


(Pedantry)
+ Show Spoiler +
It's "per se" from the Latin for "by itself."


Unless Putin has information that HRC killed Vince Foster or something similarly damaging, she wins. That's more or less always been the case. I have to imagine the likes of Paul Ryan and the RNC have been preparing for her victory on that basis for months.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 08 2016 03:09 GMT
#107542
So maybe the Senate will move to confirm Garland?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 08 2016 03:11 GMT
#107543
Man. I wonder what SNL will do with this. Too bad they don't have that huge an audience any more.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 08 2016 03:12 GMT
#107544
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 03:23:44
October 08 2016 03:13 GMT
#107545
On October 08 2016 12:05 Yoav wrote:
Unless Putin has information that HRC killed Vince Foster or something similarly damaging, she wins. That's more or less always been the case. I have to imagine the likes of Paul Ryan and the RNC have been preparing for her victory on that basis for months.

There is such a thing as Trump tanking so hard in the polls that it helps him, Clinton needs people on their toes and worried about Trump having a decent chance of winning.

What we've got here are the most ripe conditions for an upset. Two deeply unpopular choices where what the majority sees as the lesser evil seems increasingly more certain to win. That's when when complacency and protest voting increase on the part of the favorite's presumed voters.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 08 2016 03:14 GMT
#107546
On October 08 2016 12:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/BenWinslow/status/784590505673891840


That is such a cop out. One of the two is going to be president so when you do something like that its basically "I dont have the courage to decide" Either vote for him or vote for her but doing anything else is basically the same as not voting.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 03:19:04
October 08 2016 03:18 GMT
#107547
I disagree adreme; there's plenty of plausible methods by which one could determine ones vote; and it's reasonable to want some time to figure out what to do after a change. and I dislike hating on people trying to vote as they deem best.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
October 08 2016 03:20 GMT
#107548
Kinda want to go around my neighborhood and put up signs with:

Trump/Pence 2016
Grab HER by the p---y!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 08 2016 03:20 GMT
#107549
If Clinton wants to bring it up in the debate, does she have to paraphrase it a la "grab them by their private parts"?
Or is the original something you can say on TV in the US?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 08 2016 03:21 GMT
#107550
On October 08 2016 12:18 zlefin wrote:
I disagree adreme; there's plenty of plausible methods by which one could determine ones vote; and it's reasonable to want some time to figure out what to do after a change. and I dislike hating on people trying to vote as they deem best.


One of the two will be president. When you have a choice between 2 people and you choose neither than you are not making a choice, you are running from the choice. If you like both you choose whichever you like most, if you dislike both then you choose whichever one you can tolerate most but not making a choice is a cop out and is the sort of wishy washy thing that drives me crazy.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 08 2016 03:28 GMT
#107551
Also, is there still anyone doubting that Russia was behind the DNC hacks after they've been formally accused by the US government? Or did I miss that amidst the Trump bonanza?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
October 08 2016 03:29 GMT
#107552
On October 08 2016 12:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Also, is there still anyone doubting that Russia was behind the DNC hacks after they've been formally accused by the US government? Or did I miss that amidst the Trump bonanza?

They wouldn't accuse Russia before knowing.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 03:37:21
October 08 2016 03:36 GMT
#107553
So do we call her Madame President or Madam President?

Like I have no idea on the policy for that. Also first husband, first gentlemen, first guy to get divorced by a female president?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44311 Posts
October 08 2016 03:37 GMT
#107554
On October 08 2016 12:20 Toadesstern wrote:
If Clinton wants to bring it up in the debate, does she have to paraphrase it a la "grab them by their private parts"?
Or is the original something you can say on TV in the US?


It's definitely not something you're allowed to say on tv (it gets silenced/ bleeped out), and honestly I can't see Hillary actually saying that word.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44311 Posts
October 08 2016 03:38 GMT
#107555
On October 08 2016 12:36 Jaaaaasper wrote:
So do we call her Madame President or Madam President?

Like I have no idea on the policy for that. Also first husband, first gentlemen, first guy to get divorced by a female president?


First Ladies Man.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 08 2016 03:39 GMT
#107556
On October 08 2016 12:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 12:36 Jaaaaasper wrote:
So do we call her Madame President or Madam President?

Like I have no idea on the policy for that. Also first husband, first gentlemen, first guy to get divorced by a female president?


First Ladies Man.


Might not be the best time for the joke .
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 08 2016 03:41 GMT
#107557
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 08 2016 03:45 GMT
#107558
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 04:00:08
October 08 2016 03:55 GMT
#107559
inb4 Johnson back in the race because vacant seat from Trump. But seriously, we're probably not going to see how this influences (from a polls pov) the Trump campaign until after the 2nd debate bump?
It's going to be at least 3-4 days until new polls come out that have this in them and then might as well wait 1-2 more days to get a decent picture of the post-debate situation.

A bit sad, would have liked to see how this alone influences the campaign without 2nd debate performances, whatever they will be like

Also, Trump apparently down to only +3 in Alaska as of now: OCT. 5-6 / Moore Information / Trump +3 /// 538 adjusts it to +4
not like Alaska matters with it's mighty 3 electoral votes (sry if someone here is from there ) but isn't that usually super red?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 08 2016 03:57 GMT
#107560
On October 08 2016 11:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I really don't understand why it was the "pussy" remark that suddenly had Republicans admitting that Trump is disparaging women, when it's literally nothing new in Trump's repertoire.


Yeah . . . I don't really understand what is happening. I don't really see what the big deal is. Trump was clearly bullshitting with another male chauvinist while describing the reality he lives in. Is he a pig? Yes. But it's not like anything is different. "Grab them by the pussy"? Sounds like an ad lib. I just don't get it.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
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