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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 07 2016 21:48 GMT
#107361
What happened with Trump?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 07 2016 21:49 GMT
#107362
On October 08 2016 06:48 TheDwf wrote:
What happened with Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumptape-404pm:homepage/story
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 07 2016 21:50 GMT
#107363
On October 08 2016 06:48 TheDwf wrote:
What happened with Trump?

100% confirmation of what we always knew was true, Trump is a sexist asshole who would sexually assault any woman if he felt he could get away with it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 07 2016 21:51 GMT
#107364
On October 08 2016 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
The U.S. on Friday blamed the Russian government for the hacking of political sites and accused Moscow of trying to interfere with the upcoming presidential election.

Pressure has been mounting on the Obama administration to call out Russia for the hacking of U.S. political sites and email accounts. Federal officials are investigating cyberattacks at the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Election data systems in at least two states also have been breached.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the Office of the Director of National Intelligence said in a joint statement with the Department of Homeland Security.

The statement said recent disclosures of alleged hacked emails on websites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks, and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona, are consistent with the methods and motivations of efforts directed by Russia, which has denied involvement.


Yahoo

nbd


Obama blames Russia... so what else is new? Telling the public how Russians are hacking and then fabricating Hillary's emails so that her crimes be ignored. When democrats are just incompetent at keeping classified information hidden that exploits their crimes what do they do, they blame Russia. This would also come in handy because, Trump is a russian spy as he said that Putin is a strong leader... Clinton should just drone Assange already and save herself more embarrassment, thats what her solution was for the leaks anyway...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 07 2016 21:52 GMT
#107365
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 07 2016 21:54 GMT
#107366
On October 08 2016 06:50 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 06:48 TheDwf wrote:
What happened with Trump?

100% confirmation of what we always knew was true, Trump is a sexist asshole who would sexually assault any woman if he felt he could get away with it.

What I took away that was the most disturbing from it is that he does think that he can get away with it. The most disgusting part is that he would've been right if he had never entered the political ring.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-07 21:54:44
October 07 2016 21:54 GMT
#107367
Y'know you'd think if Bill really was such a fuckup it would be easy to get some audio of him saying similar crap.

But Trump's much too incompetent to scrounge that up. What a scrub.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 07 2016 21:55 GMT
#107368
What would it theoretically take for the Conservatives to just ditch Trump? Like what theoretically needs to happen that makes them go "let's keep our dignity and ditch him". Does such a thing exist? I don't even understand Cruz and Ryan. These people have enough money and job opportunities anyway.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 07 2016 21:56 GMT
#107369
On October 08 2016 06:49 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 06:48 TheDwf wrote:
What happened with Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumptape-404pm:homepage/story

Wow... Thanks.

On October 08 2016 06:50 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 06:48 TheDwf wrote:
What happened with Trump?

100% confirmation of what we always knew was true, Trump is a sexist asshole who would sexually assault any woman if he felt he could get away with it.

But Plansix, this cannot be true. He told you that nobody has more respect for women than he does.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 07 2016 21:56 GMT
#107370
On October 08 2016 06:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Y'know you'd think if Bill really was such a fuckup it would be easy to get some audio of him saying similar crap.

But Trump's much too incompetent to scrounge that up. What a scrub.


To be fair, this is like an hour old at this point. I think shit gets real Monday. Everything Trump and company has is going to be coming out Monday. I would say Trump for sure loses the election at this point. It will take something new to make Trump viable.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 07 2016 21:57 GMT
#107371
On October 08 2016 06:55 Nyxisto wrote:
What would it theoretically take for the Conservatives to just ditch Trump? Like what theoretically needs to happen that makes them go "let's keep our dignity and ditch him". Does such a thing exist? I don't even understand Cruz and Ryan. These people have enough money and job opportunities anyway.

If this doesn't do it, nothing will. They want power and just don't give a shit how they get it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 07 2016 21:57 GMT
#107372
On October 08 2016 06:54 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 06:50 Plansix wrote:
On October 08 2016 06:48 TheDwf wrote:
What happened with Trump?

100% confirmation of what we always knew was true, Trump is a sexist asshole who would sexually assault any woman if he felt he could get away with it.

What I took away that was the most disturbing from it is that he does think that he can get away with it. The most disgusting part is that he would've been right if he had never entered the political ring.

Well, the fact that many men—powerful or not—get away with that kind of disgusting behaviour is honestly nothing new. Sadly impunity is the rule rather than the exception.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44286 Posts
October 07 2016 21:59 GMT
#107373
On October 08 2016 06:07 Nebuchad wrote:
Sometimes when I read KwarK's posts I want to marry his online persona.

I brought it up to the present day.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
October 07 2016 21:59 GMT
#107374
On October 08 2016 06:55 Nyxisto wrote:
What would it theoretically take for the Conservatives to just ditch Trump? Like what theoretically needs to happen that makes them go "let's keep our dignity and ditch him". Does such a thing exist? I don't even understand Cruz and Ryan. These people have enough money and job opportunities anyway.


If they had any dignity they would've already ditched him at this point.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 07 2016 22:02 GMT
#107375
Does 2 weeks of getting rekt on sexism force Donald to pull out the Bill was unfaithful card at the debate and go full thermonuclear on his chances of winning?
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-07 22:03:31
October 07 2016 22:02 GMT
#107376
On October 08 2016 06:55 Nyxisto wrote:
What would it theoretically take for the Conservatives to just ditch Trump? Like what theoretically needs to happen that makes them go "let's keep our dignity and ditch him". Does such a thing exist? I don't even understand Cruz and Ryan. These people have enough money and job opportunities anyway.

An alternate universe where the fallout from ditching your nominee is smaller than the fallout from paying lip service to his run while hoping he loses the election.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9245 Posts
October 07 2016 22:03 GMT
#107377
On October 08 2016 06:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Y'know you'd think if Bill really was such a fuckup it would be easy to get some audio of him saying similar crap.

Well no, Bill could be just as into sexual assault without bragging to random people about it
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 07 2016 22:04 GMT
#107378
I think this is the thing that breaks Ryan. I don't expect him to campaign for Trump after what he already has scheduled tomorrow.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 07 2016 22:06 GMT
#107379
538 had Trump's chances at 20% before this audio broke and Hillary was forecasted with a 5 point lead. There's no question this will hurt Trump, it's just how much and does it trickle down to affect the down ballet races? I'm pretty sure this is almost the worst possible thing that could happen to Trump's chances, but I'm not sure who else he really has to lose.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 07 2016 22:07 GMT
#107380
On October 08 2016 07:06 Nevuk wrote:
538 had Trump's chances at 20% before this audio broke and Hillary was forecasted with a 5 point lead. There's no question this will hurt Trump, it's just how much and does it trickle down to affect the down ballet races? I'm pretty sure this is almost the worst possible thing that could happen to Trump's chances, but I'm not sure who else he really has to lose.


He's not doing well with women, but it's not like his black support. I think this will take his numbers with women and make them much worse.
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