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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 01:59 GMT
#103761
On September 27 2016 10:58 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:56 TheTenthDoc wrote:
WOAH Trump just fucking said the NRA said it's okay to prevent people on the no-fly list from owning guns? Is the NRA really okay with that?

No he didn't. He stated that the NRA has endorsed him, and then gave his opinion. He didn't say that the NRA agreed with every position he held.


I think he did say they agreed with him after he talked with them actually. It's buried in his word vomit but it was there
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 01:59 GMT
#103762
He can't help himself.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4750 Posts
September 27 2016 01:59 GMT
#103763
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh plz no.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 27 2016 01:59 GMT
#103764
On September 27 2016 10:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Fact checked, crime went up in 2015 and 2016 (murders)

I can't find any sources that say this.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13927 Posts
September 27 2016 01:59 GMT
#103765
On September 27 2016 10:58 BigFan wrote:
Did Hillary outright state she wants to ban guns? She wanted to do some limitations at best.

She said a lot of weird things that didn't make any sense. "common sense safety laws and military style guns" as if all weapons weren't military style when they were designed.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2016 01:59 GMT
#103766
You decided to stay home and thats ok.

Rofl.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103767
Here we fucking go!!!!!!!!!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103768
he's just constantly strawman-ing the argument
There is no one like you in the universe.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44327 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103769
OBAMA BIRTHER QUESTION HERE WE GO.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103770
This debate leader is so fucking bad at leading the debate
Neosteel Enthusiast
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103771
Moderator says "you promoted a false claim," that sounds biased straight off the bat.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103772
did trump just get rekt
© Current year.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103773
On September 27 2016 10:58 Netscape9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:55 The_Templar wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:54 Netscape9 wrote:
Clinton again attacking gun owners. "Military style weapons" and "common sense gun control." She wants to ban semi-automatic guns. Entirely. Despite the constitution, despite studies showing that the FAWB and other laws didn't work.

I don't agree 100% on her gun plan, but source please?

She's talking about getting "military weapons" out of the hands of Americans. A lie. Full auto weapons have been banned since 1986 (with very few exceptions). She's using the same lies and propaganda as Bloomberg, Feinstein and the anti-gun lobby. She's misleading the public to promote a gun ban on semi-automatics (under false pretenses).


there's no real clear distinction on "military" weapons. the military doesn't use full-auto because it's useless in practice.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103774
On September 27 2016 10:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:58 BigFan wrote:
Did Hillary outright state she wants to ban guns? She wanted to do some limitations at best.

She wants gun safety laws.

so, what's wrong with this? gun rules are too lax imo. Was just in the US recently, seeing guns at places like Walmart struck me as really bizzare that I had to take a picture XD Anyways, bit offtopic.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 02:01:00
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103775
I'm so confused about Trump's deflection here, it doesn't rationalize his 5 years at all
On September 27 2016 11:00 Netscape9 wrote:
Moderator says "you promoted a false claim," that sounds biased straight off the bat.


I mean it was a false claim
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103776
On September 27 2016 10:59 bo1b wrote:
You decided to stay home and thats ok.

Rofl.

He got dumptered on that response.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103777
On September 27 2016 11:00 CorsairHero wrote:
did trump just get rekt

Yeah that looked pretty awful for him, but only for a few seconds.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 27 2016 02:00 GMT
#103778
On September 27 2016 11:00 Netscape9 wrote:
Moderator says "you promoted a false claim," that sounds biased straight off the bat.

agreed it sounds biased; but it is true. how do you reconcile those?
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
September 27 2016 02:01 GMT
#103779
On September 27 2016 11:00 Netscape9 wrote:
Moderator says "you promoted a false claim," that sounds biased straight off the bat.

Then the moderator is doing his job, no? Ever consider that maybe he's being called out because he's saying false crap, while Hillary has been smarter with avoiding them?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
September 27 2016 02:01 GMT
#103780
On September 27 2016 11:00 Netscape9 wrote:
Moderator says "you promoted a false claim," that sounds biased straight off the bat.


The truth is biased?
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