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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 01:16 GMT
#103401
On September 27 2016 10:15 oBlade wrote:
Why can't he just say repatriate corporate wealth.


Because he's a Republican
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
September 27 2016 01:16 GMT
#103402
On September 27 2016 10:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Is trump dying? Lets get our best minds on this guys!


Sniffing is a sign of bacterial meningitis I think


I mean, your username has doc in it so I'm going to have to defer to your expertise here. How deadly is that exactly?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 27 2016 01:16 GMT
#103403
On September 27 2016 10:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Trump is surprisingly restrained for now, but at least he's still on the whole China and Mexico thing.


He's not acting super-aggro and shrill, but he's still giving non-answers. Lester holding Trump to the question which is good.

So far this is basically what I expected. Trump talking in circles around the same problems he's based his campaign on, but failing to offer substantive solutions.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 01:17:47
September 27 2016 01:17 GMT
#103404
On September 27 2016 10:16 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:11 Netscape9 wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:09 ChristianS wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:07 Netscape9 wrote:
Clinton just spouted out the myth that women don't get equal pay for equal work. She's already lying, just a few minutes in.

"Lie" isn't quite accurate. If she said the 70-whatever cents on every dollar number, that one's a lie. Women get paid less for equal work is at least arguable


"For equal work" is a lie. The wage gap is the average earnings of men and women across ALL fields. Women on average enter less playing fields, get less paying degress, often drop out of the workforce earlier than men, are generally more interested in a stable family life than moving up, etc. Discrimination plays a zero or near-zero role in it.


Wrong. There is an unquantifiable (by economics) wage gap between women and men that's around 5-8%. Its certainly not the 30% spread by one side, but it's also certainly not the zero spread by the others.


Honestly I'm mentally applauding Clinton for not dropping the 30 cents stat

On September 27 2016 10:16 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Is trump dying? Lets get our best minds on this guys!


Sniffing is a sign of bacterial meningitis I think


I mean, your username has doc in it so I'm going to have to defer to your expertise here. How deadly is that exactly?


Marginally deadlier than pneumonia
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
September 27 2016 01:17 GMT
#103405
"Thats called business, honey"
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 01:17:50
September 27 2016 01:17 GMT
#103406
He started alright, but the over-the-top snide sarcasm and interruptions are starting.

Can't change what he is.
Big water
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 27 2016 01:17 GMT
#103407
His one attempt to cut her off was just completely ignored by her. That's actually pretty impressive, the way she just acted like it didn't happen. Wonder if he'll act up when she doesn't give him attention
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 27 2016 01:17 GMT
#103408
I just realized, I should be answering the questions myself, to see if I can do better! anyone else wanna join in that? we could at least post short 1-minute things answering the questions.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 27 2016 01:18 GMT
#103409
On September 27 2016 10:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Trump is surprisingly restrained for now, but at least he's still on the whole China and Mexico thing.


He's not acting super-aggro and shrill, but he's still giving non-answers. Lester holding Trump to the question which is good.

Honestly so far it seems like Trump is doing better than Hillary so far. At least if I look at it from a theoretical "undecided voter" perspective. Trump has a very simple and clear plan while Hillary is doing some poorly pointed bashing.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
September 27 2016 01:18 GMT
#103410
On September 27 2016 10:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:15 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Is trump dying? Lets get our best minds on this guys!


Sniffing is a sign of bacterial meningitis I think


Or maybe he got "pneumonia" from Clinton?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
September 27 2016 01:18 GMT
#103411
On September 27 2016 10:17 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:16 BallinWitStalin wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:11 Netscape9 wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:09 ChristianS wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:07 Netscape9 wrote:
Clinton just spouted out the myth that women don't get equal pay for equal work. She's already lying, just a few minutes in.

"Lie" isn't quite accurate. If she said the 70-whatever cents on every dollar number, that one's a lie. Women get paid less for equal work is at least arguable


"For equal work" is a lie. The wage gap is the average earnings of men and women across ALL fields. Women on average enter less playing fields, get less paying degress, often drop out of the workforce earlier than men, are generally more interested in a stable family life than moving up, etc. Discrimination plays a zero or near-zero role in it.


Wrong. There is an unquantifiable (by economics) wage gap between women and men that's around 5-8%. Its certainly not the 30% spread by one side, but it's also certainly not the zero spread by the others.


Honestly I'm mentally applauding Clinton for not dropping the 30 cents stat

The less you drop specific numbers in a debate that will be as scrutinized as this, it's better to be be generalized.

Rofl Donald denying he said the Chinese are behind climate change.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
September 27 2016 01:18 GMT
#103412
Hillary just said 'climate change'. I'm amazed.
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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3262 Posts
September 27 2016 01:18 GMT
#103413
That climate change Chinese thing was a Donald Trump tweet, right? Can someone find it?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 27 2016 01:19 GMT
#103414
Trump seems 100% focused on money and not thinking about the future of energy with this answer.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 27 2016 01:19 GMT
#103415
Solyndra makes a comeback today.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 27 2016 01:19 GMT
#103416
On September 27 2016 10:18 DickMcFanny wrote:
Hillary just said 'climate change'. I'm amazed.

shes right about what trump said though
© Current year.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 27 2016 01:19 GMT
#103417
The most interesting part of this debate is watching Trump slowly go from the mellow serious candidate that they tried to have him rehearse as into the same arrogant blowhard that he really is. Its already happening and we arent even a half hour into the debate. He wont last the entire time.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45161 Posts
September 27 2016 01:19 GMT
#103418
Trump saying that solar energy is a failure?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 27 2016 01:19 GMT
#103419
On September 27 2016 10:18 ChristianS wrote:
That climate change Chinese thing was a Donald Trump tweet, right? Can someone find it?

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385?lang=en
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TL+ Member
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 01:19:42
September 27 2016 01:19 GMT
#103420
On September 27 2016 10:18 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Trump is surprisingly restrained for now, but at least he's still on the whole China and Mexico thing.


He's not acting super-aggro and shrill, but he's still giving non-answers. Lester holding Trump to the question which is good.

Honestly so far it seems like Trump is doing better than Hillary so far. At least if I look at it from a theoretical "undecided voter" perspective. Trump has a very simple and clear plan while Hillary is doing some poorly pointed bashing.


Which part is looking good on? The interruptions or the 4th grade language or 3rd grade views of the economy?
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