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Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 01:11:23
September 27 2016 01:11 GMT
#103361
On September 27 2016 10:09 ChristianS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:07 Netscape9 wrote:
Clinton just spouted out the myth that women don't get equal pay for equal work. She's already lying, just a few minutes in.

"Lie" isn't quite accurate. If she said the 70-whatever cents on every dollar number, that one's a lie. Women get paid less for equal work is at least arguable


"For equal work" is a lie. The wage gap is the average earnings of men and women across ALL fields. Women on average enter less playing fields, get less paying degress, often drop out of the workforce earlier than men, are generally more interested in a stable family life than moving up, etc. Discrimination plays a zero or near-zero role in it.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
September 27 2016 01:11 GMT
#103362
On September 27 2016 10:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Feel sorry for anyone playing the drinking game. I think we've heard about China and Mexico seven times already...


To be fair jobs and those countries are the basis of much of what Trump has been talking about.

His answer just demolished Clintons though.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
September 27 2016 01:11 GMT
#103363
Hillary talking about magic tax loopholes like Republicans usually do.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 27 2016 01:11 GMT
#103364
10 min in and still no drama, presidential candidate letting the non-us citizen down.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States997 Posts
September 27 2016 01:11 GMT
#103365
First Reagan mention!
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 01:12:11
September 27 2016 01:11 GMT
#103366
BOOO pre-planned zingers.

Terrible delivery.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103367
Trump-up trickle-down...?
Moderatorshe/her
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103368
On September 27 2016 10:10 GreenHorizons wrote:
This is going to be glorious if we get to see the side by side the whole time.

CSPAN said they were going to run it that way
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15685 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103369
what in the world was this trumped trickle good lord I need a beer.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13924 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103370
trumped up trickle down what the fuck kind of idiot made that zinger up.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103371
On September 27 2016 10:11 Netscape9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:09 ChristianS wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:07 Netscape9 wrote:
Clinton just spouted out the myth that women don't get equal pay for equal work. She's already lying, just a few minutes in.

"Lie" isn't quite accurate. If she said the 70-whatever cents on every dollar number, that one's a lie. Women get paid less for equal work is at least arguable


"For equal work" is a lie. The wage gap is the average earnings of men and women across ALL fields. Women on average enter less playing fields, get less paying degress, often drop out of the workforce earlier than men, are generally more interested in a stable family life than moving up, etc. Discrimination plays a zero or near-zero role in it.


This accounts for ~20 cents of the wage gap, but I don't think I've ever seen an analysis that gets that effect to the total income disparity.

GOD THIS IS FUCKING BORING
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103372
oh no trumped up economics
will it stick
© Current year.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103373
There's the first big "poke." Calling out Trumps business acumen by saying he is a result of his daddies money.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103374
--- Nuked ---
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103375
"Trumped up trickle down" lol
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3188 Posts
September 27 2016 01:12 GMT
#103376
On September 27 2016 10:11 Netscape9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 10:09 ChristianS wrote:
On September 27 2016 10:07 Netscape9 wrote:
Clinton just spouted out the myth that women don't get equal pay for equal work. She's already lying, just a few minutes in.

"Lie" isn't quite accurate. If she said the 70-whatever cents on every dollar number, that one's a lie. Women get paid less for equal work is at least arguable


"For equal work" is a lie. The wage gap is the average earnings of men and women across ALL fields. Women on average enter less playing fields, get less paying degress, often drop out of the workforce earlier than men, are generally more interested in a stable family life than moving up, etc. Discrimination plays a zero or near-zero role in it.

Overstating the research. Best you can say is discrimination plays a "difficult to quantify" role in it. "For equal work" is harder to study than you might think, and the research is consequently mixed, but it's not an outright lie, just a disputed claim.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
September 27 2016 01:13 GMT
#103377
Surprisingly, Trump is bigger on policy specifics than Hillary so far.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 27 2016 01:13 GMT
#103378
I hate to repeat myself but both of these candidates sound like Ben Carson in the Republican primary debates

Too much Xanax
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-27 01:14:01
September 27 2016 01:13 GMT
#103379
Boooooo, boooooo, I'd rather watch other c-span than this! Then it'd be boring but at least be relevant policyl stuff than this bland drivel.
Tap water has more flavor than this!

they need more hecklers.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
September 27 2016 01:13 GMT
#103380
Did I hear that right, did Trump mentioned receiving a "small loan" and turning it around to make billions? Lol. "A small loan of a million dollars."
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