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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 21 2016 23:59 farvacola wrote: "who cares?" and "so what?" might as well be Trump's real slogans “I have no stakes in this election and nothing bad will happen to me, but I like watching people I disagree with on social issues be upset.” – Trump supporter online. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
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KwarK
United States42606 Posts
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On September 22 2016 00:10 KwarK wrote: Nah but it's fine, I heard black people can't be racist. Who do you want to win in this election? | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On September 21 2016 23:58 Doodsmack wrote: Witness back to back sentences that contradict each other (keeping in mind the first sentence is part of his argument that Obama is to blame): "Obama is the first president since Hoover not to oversee at least one year of 3% GDP growth - fact. Go look it up. And i agree that any recovery/expansion under Trump would be weaker than it is now under Obama. That has been the trend since the late 1970's." those sentences arent contradictory | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10696 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7886 Posts
On September 20 2016 03:12 oBlade wrote: Yes, stronger to get her to the presidency. And Trump slogan is "Make America great again", suggesting that America is not great anymore (??), and that things were better in the good old time (??????). When? No fucking clue, but who cares. If Trump and his supporters gave a fuck about making any sense, we would have been notified long ago. But yeah, "stronger together" is clearly the worse slogan. Especially for people who believe that the gay, the muslim, the refugee, the poor, the black is an enemy. Actually, America will probably be great again when all those people will be suppressed as they used to be. That would make sense. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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KwarK
United States42606 Posts
On September 22 2016 00:14 RealityIsKing wrote: Who do you want to win in this election? Well it's a tough choice between the career politician with a long history of being generally competent, liberal and cooperative and the literal fascist who has taken so many positions on so many issues that you can find one quote where he agrees with you on any issue you care to name and a dozen more of him disagreeing with you completely. I mean one of them killed Ben Ghazi and the other one is a career con artist who pretty much defines the problems with capitalism with his history of bribery, corruption, exploiting bankruptcy laws, and deceptive and amoral business practices. But I'll probably fall on the side of sanity, if it's all the same to you. | ||
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KwarK
United States42606 Posts
On September 22 2016 00:22 IgnE wrote: i dont know what posts you guys were reading but nettles's posts on this topic were more coherent than half the stuff in this thread. he doesnt "blame obama" for anything other than being president along with every other president since the 70s. Did you miss the previous 6 years of Nettles predicting global financial collapse every 6 months due to whatever he read on zerohedge or infowars that morning? He's been advocating buying gold, water purification tablets and a cabin in the woods for years now. And like the perpetual rapture that has been just around the corner for the last 2000 years, it never comes. But that never seems to make him wrong, it just didn't happen yet, it'll happen tomorrow. Nettles is a joke. He randomly shows up every few weeks in a topic picked at random from the general forum and badly tries to parrot some article he read by a fake economist on a fake news site. Then nothing happens, he disappears and then repeats the trick a few weeks later. Take a look at his post history. Search it for some fun keywords like gold, inflation, collapse or recession. | ||
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KwarK
United States42606 Posts
There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. It makes perfect sense to me. There is absolutely no reason to think black people would be immune from the societal imprinting of stereotypes about race. They're part of society, they read the same newspapers, watch the same television shows, have the same basic human desire to put people into neat boxes using stereotypes. GH will interject and say that racism isn't raycism and I'm talking about stereotyping but whatever, the point remains. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On September 21 2016 23:10 Rebs wrote: Yeah I dont see the big deal here either. If one guy has alot of guns it means nothing in terms of accidents or potential harm to people really. And all the stuff people said. Its just a hobby for them. My grandmother liked to collect owl statues. She was a total whacko in the 15 years before her death. | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7886 Posts
On September 22 2016 00:04 KwarK wrote: Nobody has any doubts that Germany could steamroll basically any country but the United States and China if it wanted to. That's basically why we keep US troops in Germany. It's not because we think Germany can't have a strong military, it's because the last 100 years have convinced us that Germany can't be allowed to have a strong military. It'd probably be fine if we relaxed on that one if we're honest, it's been 70 years, but the post war institutions were basically set up to establish a global American hegemony and the permanent occupation of Germany and Japan. They're not occupied because they're weak, they're occupied because they're great powers which rose too late to take their rightful place on the world stage in the 19th Century and acted out because of it in the 20th. If Trump really dissolved NATO (he won't anyway), the EU would have to finally get a coordinated army. The only reason it doesn't exist already is NATO. All the european armies put together would be easily the second force in the world. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21656 Posts
On September 22 2016 00:40 Biff The Understudy wrote: If Trump really dissolved NATO (he won't anyway), the EU would have to finally get a coordinated army. The only reason it doesn't exist already is NATO. All the european armies put together would be easily the second force in the world. Europe has let them armies slide a lot in the last few decades. I would doubt that 2nd place at this point. Especially considering the level of cooperation required. But if the need arose (such as from a disbanded NATO) they have the economy and supply to quickly catch up in equipment (soldiers is a different problem). | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On September 22 2016 00:04 KwarK wrote: Nobody has any doubts that Germany could steamroll basically any country but the United States and China if it wanted to. That's basically why we keep US troops in Germany. It's not because we think Germany can't have a strong military, it's because the last 100 years have convinced us that Germany can't be allowed to have a strong military. It'd probably be fine if we relaxed on that one if we're honest, it's been 70 years, but the post war institutions were basically set up to establish a global American hegemony and the permanent occupation of Germany and Japan. They're not occupied because they're weak, they're occupied because they're great powers which rose too late to take their rightful place on the world stage in the 19th Century and acted out because of it in the 20th. I'll fall in line with my German brothers (provided they don't get all evil) if it means we can throw the Americans out of Europe (in a non-violent way, mind you). | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
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KwarK
United States42606 Posts
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