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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44316 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 01:57:29
August 10 2016 01:55 GMT
#93821
On August 10 2016 10:33 Slaughter wrote:
Its just Texas being Texas.


Yeah but I feel really, really bad for the college students and professors who are already at Texas universities. If a university offers you a scholarship as a student or a tenured track position as a professor, there are some good reasons right off the bat to consider going there to learn or work. And now they have to deal with this gun shit. Ugh.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 10 2016 01:59 GMT
#93822
On August 10 2016 10:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So place your bets does Paul Ryan during his victory press conference drop his endorsement of Trump.

I'd say no.


That would be too funny

I don't think it's likely though
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 02:01:05
August 10 2016 02:00 GMT
#93823
why are they even doing this, are they really so confident that Trump can win? If he's going to lose the dissenters will look like the sane ones.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 10 2016 02:03 GMT
#93824
On August 10 2016 11:00 Nyxisto wrote:
why are they even doing this, are they really so confident that Trump can win? If he's going to lose the dissenters will look like the sane ones.


Ted Cruz, sane? What are you, crazy??
Yargh
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 10 2016 02:06 GMT
#93825
Ted Cruz is now a mortal enemy of Trump and Co. His non endorsement was that and also political.

Paul Ryan is looking towards 2020. Mitchell McConnell is just corrupt. Reince Priebus is just desperate to save his job.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 10 2016 02:07 GMT
#93826
You guys are being silly, what Trump is clearly saying is that when Hillary starts the Fourth Reich, the Second Amendment Team will be the only group capable of stopping her.
Yargh
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 02:14:03
August 10 2016 02:12 GMT
#93827
On August 10 2016 11:03 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 11:00 Nyxisto wrote:
why are they even doing this, are they really so confident that Trump can win? If he's going to lose the dissenters will look like the sane ones.


Ted Cruz, sane? What are you, crazy??


Well he's still a religious nutjob but at least he doesn't seem to be advocating violence as a political tool. Also I don't think that the Republican party would reorient itself towards a radical candidate but rather a centre-right one in 2020.

They will never win an election again if they continue to screw over all but one demographic in the US, they must notice that at some point. Their voterbase is literally dying out
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 02:12:52
August 10 2016 02:12 GMT
#93828
Should be taken with a grain of salt, but I believe this to be really interesting. I didn't know that, in some states, private organization manage the voting database. Scary.

"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 10 2016 02:14 GMT
#93829
On August 10 2016 11:00 Nyxisto wrote:
why are they even doing this, are they really so confident that Trump can win? If he's going to lose the dissenters will look like the sane ones.

Like it or not, there is now going to be a "Trump Party" within the Republican Party. If they disown him then they lose his supporters too.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5583 Posts
August 10 2016 02:14 GMT
#93830
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-campaign-statement-on-dishonest-media

- AUGUST 09, 2016 -

TRUMP CAMPAIGN STATEMENT ON DISHONEST MEDIA

“It’s called the power of unification – 2nd Amendment people have amazing spirit and are tremendously unified, which gives them great political power. And this year, they will be voting in record numbers, and it won’t be for Hillary Clinton, it will be for Donald Trump.” - Jason Miller, Senior Communications Advisor


(That's the whole release, not a snippet, if you don't want to follow the link.) It looks like they are switching to ignoring rather than engaging media scandals. I think that's the right move. I don't think a Republican can ever win again if they let the media control the conversation.



Wikileaks wants to solve the murder of this guy, in case something fishy were going on? Seems like flirting with conspiracy people, but anyway, interesting times we live in.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 10 2016 02:22 GMT
#93831
Wikileaks plz. It was a robbery. Do you know what city DC Is silly Internet kid?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 10 2016 02:23 GMT
#93832
On August 10 2016 11:12 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 11:03 JinDesu wrote:
On August 10 2016 11:00 Nyxisto wrote:
why are they even doing this, are they really so confident that Trump can win? If he's going to lose the dissenters will look like the sane ones.


Ted Cruz, sane? What are you, crazy??


Well he's still a religious nutjob but at least he doesn't seem to be advocating violence as a political tool. Also I don't think that the Republican party would reorient itself towards a radical candidate but rather a centre-right one in 2020.

They will never win an election again if they continue to screw over all but one demographic in the US, they must notice that at some point. Their voterbase is literally dying out


It's the great gamble for them, do they leave the pro corporate extremes along with the catering of the far right and try and attract moderates Ala try and return to the roots of Teddy Roosevelt.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 10 2016 02:24 GMT
#93833
On August 10 2016 11:22 Plansix wrote:
Wikileaks plz. It was a robbery. Do you know what city DC Is silly Internet kid?


It's literally free publicity with no risk. Not even 20k.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
August 10 2016 02:30 GMT
#93834
On August 10 2016 11:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Ted Cruz is now a mortal enemy of Trump and Co. His non endorsement was that and also political.

Paul Ryan is looking towards 2020. Mitchell McConnell is just corrupt. Reince Priebus is just desperate to save his job.


The Ryan/Walker sub-primary will be fun. Which gets the establishment blessing? I'm not sure you can have two Wisconsinites running. Not enough space!



Also Trump doing what he does best, making sane people (supporters of second amendment rights who are worried about Democrat appointed justices overturning Heller) look dumb. It should be obvious by now that Trump speaks for himself, but apparently we will all get branded with it, because it's convenient.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 10 2016 02:30 GMT
#93835
On August 10 2016 11:24 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 11:22 Plansix wrote:
Wikileaks plz. It was a robbery. Do you know what city DC Is silly Internet kid?


It's literally free publicity with no risk. Not even 20k.

Even if someone provided the name of the killer and it lead to a conviction, they still wouldn't pay.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 10 2016 02:30 GMT
#93836
Paul Ryan speaking.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 10 2016 02:38 GMT
#93837
This is a 2020 rehearsal speech. Dodging the Trump question.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 10 2016 02:38 GMT
#93838
On August 10 2016 09:40 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 09:35 Sermokala wrote:
On August 10 2016 09:30 Doodsmack wrote:
I guess Trump is still in total "get the media spotlight through controversy" mode, which is one thing that propelled him through the primaries, because he just gives a middle finger to the media. But it would seem that by now, he would have already exhausted that supply of voters who hate the liberal media and support Trump for that reason. The media frenzy was more a primary strategy.

Is someone who has such little competence in a presidential campaign after the primaries a viable President? Especially when primary turnout was like 15%?

I think you're overestimating the chances that drumf ever had to win the presidency. He was never a viable candidate and anyone who said he was doesn't understand how us elections work.

On August 10 2016 09:34 IgnE wrote:
On August 10 2016 06:29 Sermokala wrote:
I think Trump might be starting to go down the rabbithole of beliveing his own shit. Hes lost so much ground from the DNC. the khan family may have saving the country in their blood.


"saving the country"?

ie saving us from a populace that thinks he has a chance to be president.


Before the conventions he was winning in many polls. If he had shut up and just run a normal campaign it is entirely possible that he would have won. Instead he couldnt resist shooting himself in the foot and then doing it again and then shooting the other foot for good measure just to make sure there was no way for him to win.


The only time Trump was winning in the poll average was between conventions. Before his convention the race tightened somewhat, but he certainly wasn't winning.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 10 2016 02:41 GMT
#93839
Paul Ryan says he was too busy to see a video or listen to Trump's comments. Believe was a joke gone bad.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 02:47:04
August 10 2016 02:43 GMT
#93840
On August 10 2016 11:12 WhiteDog wrote:
Should be taken with a grain of salt, but I believe this to be really interesting. I didn't know that, in some states, private organization manage the voting database. Scary.

https://youtu.be/Gg9cauzuEsw


Why take with grain of salt,it makes sence what he says and I do not think he is making things up.
This is very disturbing tbh, but it does not seem to bother any of the americans here.
Wonder what is needed to open the eyes of some people. Or maybe they just don't care because its in favor of the candidate they support.
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