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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
- Presidential candidate who thinking conservatives intend to vote for, 8/9/16 | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45333 Posts
On August 10 2016 04:43 Nyxisto wrote: did Trump threaten to send gun nuts after Hillary? Threaten? Nahhh... it was just a reminder that people with guns could hypothetically kill Hillary Clinton. That's what many people are saying, anyway... | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:06 Doodsmack wrote: "Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although the Second Amendment people maybe there is, I don't know. But I'll tell you what. That will be a horrible day, if if Hillary gets to put her judges in. Right now we're tied. You see what's going on. We're tied because Scalia this was not supposed to happen. Justice Scalia was supposed to be around for ten more years at least and this is what happens. That was a horrible thing." - Presidential candidate who thinking conservatives intend to vote for, 8/9/16 *there are some thinking conservatives | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22122 Posts
On August 10 2016 04:52 KwarK wrote: I'm also pretty sure that that was a bone thrown to the Scalia was assassinated crowd who simply cannot conceive of any other explanation. And we have another beautiful piece of insanity that everyone understands but is vague enough for his supporters to claim 'the evil liberals are putting words in his mouth'. Although the Second Amendment people maybe there is, I don't know. He is basically talking about an armed rebellion here... I understand the lunatics are the only supporters he has left at this point but my still ><. As was said (I believe by Jon Oliver) the only thing he can do to make people stop talking about his latest gaff is to make an even bigger one. Here is the one to surpass Khan. Hinting at an armed rebellion because you might not like a supreme court nomination. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:02 Nyxisto wrote: Empowering these kind of 'Scalia was assassinated' conspiracy theorists to start some armed rebellion is fucking dangerous. It's not even funny any more at this point Are you saying that public figures suggesting the system is corrupt, rigged and broken based on completely baseless claims could be erode the public’s faith in the system long term? The founding fathers feared the public. They understood that they needed to respect the system so the public would have faith in it, even if it wasn’t perfect and had flaws. That without that faith, government was worthless. The GOP decided to rile up the people who have zero faith in government or compromise to take back the House and senate. I don’t think they completed losing control of it. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
This is actually starting to get quite scary first Trump encourages post election violence and now has suggested political assassination of either a nominee and even Judges. | ||
KwarK
United States43646 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45333 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:17 KwarK wrote: Well, I'm gonna come out and say it. I think Trump has gone too far by advocating the assassination of his opponent and I don't care who hears it. You're so brave  | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Edit: Or locking her up for "Crimes against America!" | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:17 KwarK wrote: Well, I'm gonna come out and say it. I think Trump has gone too far by advocating the assassination of his opponent and I don't care who hears it. Careful, someone might use the second amendment to stop your exercise of the first amendment. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45333 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:21 Nyxisto wrote: Serious question, is something like this still covered by the first amendment? If it incites violence, panic, or hysteria (like screaming Fire! in a crowded theater when there isn't one or He's Got A Bomb! on a plane when you're joking) I think the line becomes pretty gray. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9177 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:21 Nyxisto wrote: Serious question, is something like this still covered by the first amendment? It isn't, but he said it vaguely enough to get away with it. | ||
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brian
United States9639 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Threaten? Nahhh... it was just a reminder that people with guns could hypothetically kill Hillary Clinton. That's what many people are saying, anyway... no he's just saying IF Russia had guns they COULD shoot her. he's not advocating they steal the guns and then do it. edit: nuts. not Russia. mb. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:21 Nyxisto wrote: Serious question, is something like this still covered by the first amendment? Yes. We have this really dumb legal theory around speech that as long as you are not directly advocating for someone to break the law, you are allowed to say pretty much anything. The Trump style of dancing around the issue and suggesting, but never directly advocating, is pretty much allowed. Unlike the Germans, we have not witnessed the power of speech to turn a nation against itself. We would rather blame the people who performed the violent acts than punish the person who was stoking the flames for months. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
- Trump apologists everywhere | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 10 2016 05:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: If it incites violence, panic, or hysteria (like screaming Fire! in a crowded theater when there isn't one or He's Got A Bomb! on a plane when you're joking) I think the line becomes pretty gray. Brandenberg vs Ohio A tad iffy, but probably still ok. Either way, it's not a distinction you typically want to have to make. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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