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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13997 Posts
July 21 2016 22:01 GMT
#87681
I'd agree but there are tons more eastern orthodox and they control whole nations.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13997 Posts
July 21 2016 22:02 GMT
#87682
On July 22 2016 07:00 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:46 shabby wrote:
Norwegian national newspaper covering the republican nomination process has listed some of the bulletins in the partys new program, here are some of them:

- They will not accept the Paris climate deal, calling coal a clean source of energy
- The party explicitly supports conversion therapy of gay children
- New sharp resistance to gay marriage
- Internet porn is called a "public health crisis"
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects
- Politicans should use religion (christianity, obviously) as a guide when making laws, so that "man-made laws matches the natural rights given by God"
- New strong resistance to abortion, now calling them aborted children, not aborted fetuses. Also illegal after rape.

Then of course theres the issues of building a wall, weapons for everyone etc, but thats for another day. Is this serious? How are they not laughed out of politics in a modern country?


It's like they made a list of everything that is good and right in the world and went like "yeah let's do the exact opposite". I mean in what way is coal clean energy? How does that make any sense?

The idea behind "clean coal" is that you take the emissions that come off it and package it up like nuclear waste.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 21 2016 22:06 GMT
#87683
On July 22 2016 07:00 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:46 shabby wrote:
Norwegian national newspaper covering the republican nomination process has listed some of the bulletins in the partys new program, here are some of them:

- They will not accept the Paris climate deal, calling coal a clean source of energy
- The party explicitly supports conversion therapy of gay children
- New sharp resistance to gay marriage
- Internet porn is called a "public health crisis"
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects
- Politicans should use religion (christianity, obviously) as a guide when making laws, so that "man-made laws matches the natural rights given by God"
- New strong resistance to abortion, now calling them aborted children, not aborted fetuses. Also illegal after rape.

Then of course theres the issues of building a wall, weapons for everyone etc, but thats for another day. Is this serious? How are they not laughed out of politics in a modern country?


It's like they made a list of everything that is good and right in the world and went like "yeah let's do the exact opposite". I mean in what way is coal clean energy? How does that make any sense?


Well if global warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese then all fossil fuels are clean right?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9221 Posts
July 21 2016 22:07 GMT
#87684
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?
You're now breathing manually
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 21 2016 22:09 GMT
#87685
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 22:10:20
July 21 2016 22:10 GMT
#87686
On July 22 2016 06:42 Sermokala wrote:
Ted cruz is never going to be anyone in the republican party again. I doubt he'll retain his seat in texas. Republicans will acept a lot of really shitty personal things from a candidate but the two things that they can't stand even more then the rest of america is a loser and someone whos disloyal. The convention is the time for the party to have a "come to jesus" moment and unite against the blue team.

No one is ever going to forget what he did and no ones going to trust him enough to vote for him again. He was embaressed in the election but he could have recovered by taking any option given to him to not support trump but to go against him at the convention is a sin republicans won't forget.

Man that guy pisses me off now and I have to tolerate Trump being the "conservative choice".


Maybe he is done for but would not dare to say for sure.
Think that in the end it the non endorsement did help trump to rally more people behind him. Trump would probably do best to completely ignore the issue in his speech tonight.
Tonights line-up is awesome. Will be interesting to see what they have to say.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 22:10:59
July 21 2016 22:10 GMT
#87687
On July 22 2016 07:02 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:00 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 22 2016 06:46 shabby wrote:
Norwegian national newspaper covering the republican nomination process has listed some of the bulletins in the partys new program, here are some of them:

- They will not accept the Paris climate deal, calling coal a clean source of energy
- The party explicitly supports conversion therapy of gay children
- New sharp resistance to gay marriage
- Internet porn is called a "public health crisis"
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects
- Politicans should use religion (christianity, obviously) as a guide when making laws, so that "man-made laws matches the natural rights given by God"
- New strong resistance to abortion, now calling them aborted children, not aborted fetuses. Also illegal after rape.

Then of course theres the issues of building a wall, weapons for everyone etc, but thats for another day. Is this serious? How are they not laughed out of politics in a modern country?


It's like they made a list of everything that is good and right in the world and went like "yeah let's do the exact opposite". I mean in what way is coal clean energy? How does that make any sense?

The idea behind "clean coal" is that you take the emissions that come off it and package it up like nuclear waste.


does that idea actually exist anywhere? because I'm pretty sure coal is unambigiously the biggest polluter on the planet as far as energy production goes
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9221 Posts
July 21 2016 22:11 GMT
#87688
On July 22 2016 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.


But it's optional, no one is forced to choose it
You're now breathing manually
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2016 22:13 GMT
#87689
On July 22 2016 07:11 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.


But it's optional, no one is forced to choose it

There is only one option.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 22:17:29
July 21 2016 22:13 GMT
#87690
On July 22 2016 07:10 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:02 Sermokala wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:00 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 22 2016 06:46 shabby wrote:
Norwegian national newspaper covering the republican nomination process has listed some of the bulletins in the partys new program, here are some of them:

- They will not accept the Paris climate deal, calling coal a clean source of energy
- The party explicitly supports conversion therapy of gay children
- New sharp resistance to gay marriage
- Internet porn is called a "public health crisis"
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects
- Politicans should use religion (christianity, obviously) as a guide when making laws, so that "man-made laws matches the natural rights given by God"
- New strong resistance to abortion, now calling them aborted children, not aborted fetuses. Also illegal after rape.

Then of course theres the issues of building a wall, weapons for everyone etc, but thats for another day. Is this serious? How are they not laughed out of politics in a modern country?


It's like they made a list of everything that is good and right in the world and went like "yeah let's do the exact opposite". I mean in what way is coal clean energy? How does that make any sense?

The idea behind "clean coal" is that you take the emissions that come off it and package it up like nuclear waste.


does that idea actually exist anywhere? because I'm pretty sure coal is unambigiously the biggest polluter on the planet as far as energy production goes


They take the waste from the burning the coal and bury it in the ground so it isn't really clean. You're not really cleaning anything; you're just preventing the waste from interfering with the atmosphere by burying it underground.

So yes, it still pollutes the planet.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6298 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 22:13:56
July 21 2016 22:13 GMT
#87691
On July 22 2016 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.

So? Its an optional class. Optionally do extra curricular activities for your own religion if you want outside of school.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13997 Posts
July 21 2016 22:14 GMT
#87692
On July 22 2016 07:10 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:02 Sermokala wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:00 Nyxisto wrote:
On July 22 2016 06:46 shabby wrote:
Norwegian national newspaper covering the republican nomination process has listed some of the bulletins in the partys new program, here are some of them:

- They will not accept the Paris climate deal, calling coal a clean source of energy
- The party explicitly supports conversion therapy of gay children
- New sharp resistance to gay marriage
- Internet porn is called a "public health crisis"
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects
- Politicans should use religion (christianity, obviously) as a guide when making laws, so that "man-made laws matches the natural rights given by God"
- New strong resistance to abortion, now calling them aborted children, not aborted fetuses. Also illegal after rape.

Then of course theres the issues of building a wall, weapons for everyone etc, but thats for another day. Is this serious? How are they not laughed out of politics in a modern country?


It's like they made a list of everything that is good and right in the world and went like "yeah let's do the exact opposite". I mean in what way is coal clean energy? How does that make any sense?

The idea behind "clean coal" is that you take the emissions that come off it and package it up like nuclear waste.


does that idea actually exist anywhere? because I'm pretty sure coal is unambigiously the biggest polluter on the planet as far as energy production goes

It an't got shit on the unregulated fuel oil that intercontinental super freighters put off.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2016 22:15 GMT
#87693
On July 22 2016 07:13 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.

So? Its an optional class. Optionally do extra curricular activities for your own religion if you want outside of school.

How about the government fund it just like the Christians?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7129 Posts
July 21 2016 22:15 GMT
#87694
I don't really know why anyone would want to go for bible studies (unless their parents force them to), but that's the least of peoples worries in that list.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 22:16:38
July 21 2016 22:16 GMT
#87695
On July 22 2016 07:11 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.


But it's optional, no one is forced to choose it


I'm not sure how to explain to you how having only one option inherently removes options.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21815 Posts
July 21 2016 22:16 GMT
#87696
On July 22 2016 07:15 Luolis wrote:
I don't really know why anyone would want to go for bible studies (unless their parents force them to), but that's the least of peoples worries in that list.

easy scores with no effort for sport jockeys?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7129 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 22:19:25
July 21 2016 22:17 GMT
#87697
On July 22 2016 07:16 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:15 Luolis wrote:
I don't really know why anyone would want to go for bible studies (unless their parents force them to), but that's the least of peoples worries in that list.

easy scores with no effort for sport jockeys?

I guess so. I'd think theres easier optional choices still tho. (and probably less dull)

Still my main point was that the other stuff on the list is much worse and people should focus on that instead.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21815 Posts
July 21 2016 22:18 GMT
#87698
On July 22 2016 07:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:11 Sent. wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.


But it's optional, no one is forced to choose it


I'm not sure how to explain to you how having only one option inherently removes options.

Students have many optional subjects they can chose. One of those subjects would be bible studies.

Yeah sure the Republicans didn't mandate that Koran studies should also be offered but don't pretend like there are no other optional subjects being offered by schools.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 22:22:58
July 21 2016 22:21 GMT
#87699
On July 22 2016 07:18 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:11 Sent. wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.


But it's optional, no one is forced to choose it


I'm not sure how to explain to you how having only one option inherently removes options.

Students have many optional subjects they can chose. One of those subjects would be bible studies.

Yeah sure the Republicans didn't mandate that Koran studies should also be offered but don't pretend like there are no other optional subjects being offered by schools.


Are those other optional subjects mandated by the state though? You can't force people to teach your religion and none of the others even if those classes are optional. I'm in disbelief that this is even up for debate.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2016 22:21 GMT
#87700
On July 22 2016 07:18 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 07:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:11 Sent. wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2016 07:07 Sent. wrote:
- Students in high school should be able to choose bible studies as optional subjects


why is that outrageous?


Because they only want to teach about their own religion.


But it's optional, no one is forced to choose it


I'm not sure how to explain to you how having only one option inherently removes options.

Students have many optional subjects they can chose. One of those subjects would be bible studies.

Yeah sure the Republicans didn't mandate that Koran studies should also be offered but don't pretend like there are no other optional subjects being offered by schools.

They just mandated bible study on the tax payers dime. No big deal.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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