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GGTeMpLaR
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 21 2016 10:43 CorsairHero wrote: has cruz endorsed trump yet Nope, and he wont. | ||
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Introvert
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On July 21 2016 10:43 CorsairHero wrote: has cruz endorsed trump yet He won't, at least not for a long time. On July 21 2016 10:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Ted Cruz is really rallying this crowd damn The largest single group in the crowd is made up of Cruz enthusiasts. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 21 2016 10:43 Nyxisto wrote: That website is a little weird. Obama for some reason is almost on the far right which seems completely absurd. I'd place him on the middle of the econ axis and very slightly over the middle on the authoritharian axis. Hillary somewhat to the left of that. Also I'm apparently an anarchist which I don't believe is right I dunno, it has a good reputation. I think Obama is very authoritarian, though I'd agree with you that he's not that far right economically... I suppose when the origin is European economics, Obama is still fairly far right. | ||
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Nevuk
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On July 21 2016 10:28 Falling wrote: It just seems to me that if you have a scale that goes -10 to 10, libertarian to authoritarian, and you put the Conservative Party of Canada at 7, there's no room for fascism or an alliance between big business and the military. Unless the entire scale is assuming a certain sort of democracy and doesn't include other political systems like dictatorships or socialism... or the scale is run by libertarians. The thing is that each quadrant basically is a system of government, top right is the standard western style liberalism, with the further to the top and the right the more neo-liberal it is, with the center (0,0) basically being socialism, the bottom left quadrant being libertarian socialism. Most people here are probably going to be in the liberal quadrant as they were likely raised in that type of system. The difference between a 7 and a 10 is a difference of degrees as to how a particular system should be run, while -7 vs 7 is going to be a difference of belief as to which system should be used entirely. If you surveyed the average citizen of a communist society, there would likely be far more top left quadrant people. The bottom quadrants are pretty ignorable tbh, there's not a great deal of people in them and outside of a few. | ||
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zlefin
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https://www.politicalcompass.org/euchart they put everyone in eu as right-leaning authoritarian, even all of scandinavia. I'm not quite sure what their error is, but stuff clearly seems off. Maybe some of it is their british basing, and differences with the US on standards and definitions; but it seems more than that to me. | ||
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Nevuk
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On July 21 2016 10:48 zlefin wrote: Ok, that site has some just plain screwy settings; I dunno what they normalized too, but it's clearly off. https://www.politicalcompass.org/euchart they put everyone in eu as right-leaning authoritarian, even all of scandinavia. I'm not quite sure what their error is, but stuff clearly seems off. By definition, all EU countries will be in that quadrant as they are liberal/capitalist systems. Individual parties can differ a lot though : https://www.politicalcompass.org/germany2013 | ||
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Toadesstern
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On July 21 2016 10:48 Nevuk wrote: The thing is that each quadrant basically is a system of government, top right is the standard western style liberalism, with the further to the top and the right the more neo-liberal it is, with the center (0,0) basically being socialism, the bottom left quadrant being libertarian socialism. Most people here are probably going to be in the liberal quadrant as they were likely raised in that type of system. The difference between a 7 and a 10 is a difference of degrees as to how a particular system should be run, while -7 vs 7 is going to be a difference of belief as to which system should be used entirely. If you surveyed the average citizen of a communist society, there would likely be far more top left quadrant people. The bottom quadrants are pretty ignorable tbh, there's not a great deal of people in them and outside of a few. I ended up with -1/-5  | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
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said 'Vote with your conscience in November' Crowd goes crazy chanting 'Endorse Trump!" holy shit the place is going crazy | ||
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CorsairHero
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On July 21 2016 10:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Cruz didn't endorse Trump in his speech Crowd goes crazy chanting 'Endorse Trump!" holy shit 100 dollars sewn in underwear ?? | ||
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Chewbacca.
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Although a lot of the questions didn't seem to be worded well, or I could easily think of 15x examples that would fit the statement, but my answer would change from agree to disagree depending on the situation.. | ||
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