• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:39
CEST 00:39
KST 07:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon97Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?175Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8700 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4366

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4364 4365 4366 4367 4368 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 01:22:56
July 21 2016 01:19 GMT
#87301
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.

I have done it many, many times. I feel like all the political parties are much more extreme on those scale then they are in reality. (They are so heavily authoritarian, for instance. Rhetoric vs pragmatism in governing?) I usually wind up (-1, -1).
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 01:23:00
July 21 2016 01:21 GMT
#87302
On July 21 2016 10:19 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.

I have done it many, many times. I feel like all the political parties are much more extreme on those scale then they are in reality. (They are so heavily authoritarian, for instance.) I usually wind up (-1, -1).


Hmm, not sure. I think I've taken it two or three times, and I always got somewhere around (5,6-7). I think some people might be too idealist and happy, and I think that's what happened to me the first time, and I got NDP or something, and I'm like nooooope.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2016 01:23 GMT
#87303
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2016 01:26 GMT
#87304


Man uses fascist correctly on the Internet, call everyone.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 01:29:06
July 21 2016 01:28 GMT
#87305
On July 21 2016 10:21 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:19 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.

I have done it many, many times. I feel like all the political parties are much more extreme on those scale then they are in reality. (They are so heavily authoritarian, for instance.) I usually wind up (-1, -1).


Hmm, not sure. I think I've taken it two or three times, and I always got somewhere around (5,6-7). I think some people might be too idealist and happy, and I think that's what happened to me the first time, and I got NDP or something, and I'm like nooooope.

It just seems to me that if you have a scale that goes -10 to 10, libertarian to authoritarian, and you put the Conservative Party of Canada at 7, there's no room for fascism or an alliance between big business and the military. Unless the entire scale is assuming a certain sort of democracy and doesn't include other political systems like dictatorships or socialism... or the scale is run by libertarians.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 21 2016 01:32 GMT
#87306
Lynne Patton's speech confusing old republicans and democrats everywhere

Party lines are being redefined this election
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 21 2016 01:32 GMT
#87307
Do you mean anarchist to authoritarian?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 21 2016 01:33 GMT
#87308
Oh boy is Rubio going to say his robot line..
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 21 2016 01:33 GMT
#87309
On July 21 2016 10:19 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.

I have done it many, many times. I feel like all the political parties are much more extreme on those scale then they are in reality. (They are so heavily authoritarian, for instance. Rhetoric vs pragmatism in governing?) I usually wind up (-1, -1).

Yeah, that test is no good. I'm basically a dead center centrist (.25, -.25).
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 21 2016 01:35 GMT
#87310
RNC is looking pretty good for republican unity, what do you guys think?
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 01:41:12
July 21 2016 01:35 GMT
#87311
On July 21 2016 10:32 IgnE wrote:
Do you mean anarchist to authoritarian?

Well, they label that axis libertarian-authoritarian.
I think the extreme bottom corner of quadrant IV would be anarcho-capitalist and the extreme bottom corner of quadrant III would be anarchism.

On July 21 2016 10:33 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:19 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.

I have done it many, many times. I feel like all the political parties are much more extreme on those scale then they are in reality. (They are so heavily authoritarian, for instance. Rhetoric vs pragmatism in governing?) I usually wind up (-1, -1).

Yeah, that test is no good. I'm basically a dead center centrist (.25, -.25).

Ha! Our political views aren't so different after all! ...except I think they actually are.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5028 Posts
July 21 2016 01:35 GMT
#87312
On July 21 2016 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
RNC is looking pretty good for republican unity, what do you guys think?


Have you been keeping up with the news? There has been no such thing.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 21 2016 01:37 GMT
#87313
On July 21 2016 10:33 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:19 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.

I have done it many, many times. I feel like all the political parties are much more extreme on those scale then they are in reality. (They are so heavily authoritarian, for instance. Rhetoric vs pragmatism in governing?) I usually wind up (-1, -1).

Yeah, that test is no good. I'm basically a dead center centrist (.25, -.25).

that puts you a good 6 or so points more to the LEFT than clinton!

[image loading]
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 21 2016 01:38 GMT
#87314
On July 21 2016 10:35 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
RNC is looking pretty good for republican unity, what do you guys think?


Have you been keeping up with the news? There has been no such thing.


Well there's always going to be opposition against someone like Trump, but all in all, better than expected? I mean, we couldn't expect not a single person to speak up of course.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9245 Posts
July 21 2016 01:38 GMT
#87315
I can't see Cruz and not think of his WE SHALL NEVAAAH SURRENDAAH Churchill impression
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 21 2016 01:38 GMT
#87316
Tried out that political compass test; got a -4,-5.33.
I wonder what their normalized to.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 01:40:30
July 21 2016 01:39 GMT
#87317
On July 21 2016 10:35 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:32 IgnE wrote:
Do you mean anarchist to authoritarian?

Well, they label the axis libertarian-authoritarian.
I think the extreme bottom corner of quadrant IV would be anarcho-capitalist and the extreme bottom corner of quadrant III would be anarchism.

-8.75, -8.46 for me. Interesting, I haven't really moved to the right as I've aged. Last time I took this test was about 10 years ago and I was almost the same.

I'm obviously not a centrist but I really barely see a difference between Clinton and Trump policy wise, Trump's rhetoric seems a tad dangerous in that it incites all the wrong parts of people's brains, while Clinton's rhetoric seems flat out stupid and she just always seems to be lying in a some manner with her speech (I said seems, not actually is. No idea why she seems that way to me)
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 21 2016 01:39 GMT
#87318
On July 21 2016 10:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:35 Introvert wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
RNC is looking pretty good for republican unity, what do you guys think?


Have you been keeping up with the news? There has been no such thing.


Well there's always going to be opposition against someone like Trump, but all in all, better than expected? I mean, we couldn't expect not a single person to speak up of course.

It's less about what people say; then about who doesn't show up who normally would have.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 01:40:55
July 21 2016 01:40 GMT
#87319
On July 21 2016 10:38 zlefin wrote:
Tried out that political compass test; got a -4,-5.33.
I wonder what their normalized to.


There's a lot of prominent figures and where they stand on that website to compare to.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2016 01:43 GMT
#87320
On July 21 2016 10:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:35 Introvert wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
RNC is looking pretty good for republican unity, what do you guys think?


Have you been keeping up with the news? There has been no such thing.


Well there's always going to be opposition against someone like Trump, but all in all, better than expected? I mean, we couldn't expect not a single person to speak up of course.

It's a bit more that a few people. You do know a good chunk of the GOP isn't here at all? Like a large part of the house and senate.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Prev 1 4364 4365 4366 4367 4368 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason7
StarCraft: Brood War
HiyA 72
910 32
soO 26
Dota 2
monkeys_forever662
NeuroSwarm192
League of Legends
JimRising 519
Counter-Strike
Fnx 814
Super Smash Bros
PPMD56
Other Games
summit1g8097
FrodaN1096
shahzam526
XaKoH 296
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2369
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 50
• RyuSc2 47
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 39
• Eskiya23 13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22092
Other Games
• imaqtpie875
• Shiphtur148
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
11h 21m
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
12h 21m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 11h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
5 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
5 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Proleague 2026-09-14
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.