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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 21 2016 02:09 GMT
#87361
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.


I took one about Canadian and Quebec politics a few time, it is something that you have to consider with a lot of attention, because it is very easy to make it give the result the person doing the site want. The one you link by example is giving very little information about the question and the situation, there should also be a neutral and/or a don't know answer.

Some of the question here don't seems acceptable in a serious studies either because they don't give enough information ex: "Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism." with no regard to the country you are from that doesn't mean anything, some question are directed "It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product." or "A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption." or "It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society."

And some question are just no question at all : "If economic globalization is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations." whatever your value are the answer is yes, it is the way to get there that is going to be different and that is what is important. Some question are doing shortcut that are questionable to me (the astrology one, or the abstract art one, and ya I know a bit about Adorno and all the art theory but those kind of question are just stereotype more then actual question about your political allegiance)

I am not saying it is not interesting, I got about the kind of result I thinks I should get (-7,5, -7,23) but you should never take the world of such simple test to vote or determinate your allegiance.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2016 02:09 GMT
#87362
tens, tens, and tens of thousands...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 21 2016 02:09 GMT
#87363
On July 21 2016 11:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
lol wtf Christmas has been struck from public use what is this shit?

Reminds me of the lunatics who spread the word that you should tell people at Starbucks that your name is merry christmas to force them to say it...
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 21 2016 02:10 GMT
#87364
On July 21 2016 11:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
tens, tens, and tens of thousands...


You might even be able to say hundreds.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 21 2016 02:11 GMT
#87365
Trumps family is really putting this convention on their backs, they are obviously well raised and show the decent side of trump which has been completely overshadowed so far
Question.?
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 02:15:39
July 21 2016 02:12 GMT
#87366
On July 21 2016 11:09 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.


, some question are directed "It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product." or "A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption." or "It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society."

Those are not directed... that's what a "agree/disagree" quiz question is, that they are not really questions but statements...

@Fiwikaki And about students being more "lefty", i would had ended in the neocon and authoritanian quadrant for sure at that age, instead of the libertarian / commy. That's just a poor assumption imo.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2016 02:12 GMT
#87367
The party is unified:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 21 2016 02:13 GMT
#87368
"At least his kids are nice!"

what a low standard lol.

If his kids were cunts people would be talking about how great his dog is.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 02:14:52
July 21 2016 02:13 GMT
#87369
On July 21 2016 11:11 biology]major wrote:
Trumps family is really putting this convention on their backs, they are obviously well raised and show the decent side of trump which has been completely overshadowed so far

In the sense that they could have been cocaine addicted spoiled brats who have no awareness of hard work or money? I guess they ended up pretty good compared to what they could have been as a billionaire's children. But having well raised children just proves you're a decent father, not a politician with sound policies.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 21 2016 02:13 GMT
#87370
No one brought up the trade deficit with Canada (15 billion)
© Current year.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5770 Posts
July 21 2016 02:15 GMT
#87371
On July 21 2016 11:13 PassiveAce wrote:
"At least his kids are nice!"

what a low standard lol.

If his kids were cunts people would be talking about how great his dog is.

That's not what he meant. The media can't spin an admirable family.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9137 Posts
July 21 2016 02:16 GMT
#87372
On July 21 2016 11:11 biology]major wrote:
Trumps family is really putting this convention on their backs, they are obviously well raised and show the decent side of trump which has been completely overshadowed so far

How does being able to memorize a few pages of praising show any of those things?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2016 02:16 GMT
#87373
Just FYI St. Jude's is permanently funded as Wendy's restaurant chain funds it.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 21 2016 02:16 GMT
#87374
On July 21 2016 11:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
tens, tens, and tens of thousands...


What's wrong with that? It's blatantly obvious what information he's conveying
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2016 02:17 GMT
#87375
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 21 2016 02:17 GMT
#87376
On July 21 2016 11:12 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 11:09 Nakajin wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.


, some question are directed "It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product." or "A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption." or "It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society."

Those are not directed... that's what a "agree/disagree" quiz question is, that they are not really questions but statements...

@Fiwikaki And about students being more "lefty", i would had ended in the neocon and authoritanian quadrant for sure at that age, instead of the libertarian / commy. That's just a poor assumption imo.


You're right, bias on my part. I was just making generalizations on what I've seen and experienced, though I think people like Bernie and support with young voters among the same trend in other countries suggests something along of what I said.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 21 2016 02:18 GMT
#87377
On July 21 2016 11:16 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 11:11 biology]major wrote:
Trumps family is really putting this convention on their backs, they are obviously well raised and show the decent side of trump which has been completely overshadowed so far

How does being able to memorize a few pages of praising show any of those things?


Just baseless assumptions really, but I hope I'm right
Question.?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2016 02:20 GMT
#87378
And now Trump is leaving the arena and Mike Pence is to speak shortly. What?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11373 Posts
July 21 2016 02:21 GMT
#87379
On July 21 2016 11:16 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 11:11 biology]major wrote:
Trumps family is really putting this convention on their backs, they are obviously well raised and show the decent side of trump which has been completely overshadowed so far

How does being able to memorize a few pages of praising show any of those things?

Well, the Trump children are pretty much all good public speakers, better than good really, which can't even be said of many politicians whose job involves a lot of public speaking.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 21 2016 02:21 GMT
#87380
On July 21 2016 11:12 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 11:09 Nakajin wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:14 Falling wrote:
On July 21 2016 10:00 Barrin wrote:
On July 21 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
By the way, has there been a poll in this thread to get a rough number of TL democrats/republicans? Curious what the ratio is. 70/30 with majority liberals?

Can we get a centrist option?

Would need some international options as well- I swing right of centre, but on the Canadian spectrum.


Everyone's standing should be expressed in coordinates on the political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do take the test if you haven't already.


, some question are directed "It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product." or "A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption." or "It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society."

Those are not directed... that's what a "agree/disagree" quiz question is, that they are not really questions but statements...


They are directed, if you want to do a neutral question you don't use word like sad reflection on our society, or stable and loving relationship because it clearly make a moral high ground in the question, should same sex couple adopt a child is a neutral question no need to have anything else. As for the last one I guess it could be all right if you take it as a statement, just felt wrong to me but maybe it is just my personal belief making the question seems absurd.
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