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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6284 Posts
July 12 2016 17:49 GMT
#85101
OK its starting again. Democrat talking about random things.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42649 Posts
July 12 2016 17:50 GMT
#85102
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

I'll have to ask an admin to ban me if I lose but it can be done.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 12 2016 17:50 GMT
#85103
On July 13 2016 02:43 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:35 LegalLord wrote:
If the Republican party were even somewhat functional as a national entity this would be more than enough to sink Hillary and steamroll to victory. Polls say a majority think she should be charged. But no. Instead they put forward a field in which Trump was the strongest candidate and they somehow thought Jeb Bush would be the winner. And they got hammered for it.

On July 13 2016 02:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:29 WhiteDog wrote:
Give Hillary Clinton a 35 $ ticket and change the subject or what ? This thing about the email has been discussed for over a year and I've read nothing to really makes me think it has any kind of relevance aside from the fact that Hillary does not handle her email with enough precaution.

You and the general public. Something like 80% said it would not influence their vote.

58%

A Washington Post/ABC News poll, released Monday, found that 56% of American adults disapprove of the FBI's decision, while 35% said they approved. But a majority -- 58% -- also said the issue would not affect their vote in the 2016 presidential election.

(from the above source)


Well, out of the 42%, you have probably an immense majority of Republican who will auto answer anything negative to Clinton if given the opportunity.

If you think anyone who is not clearly partisan against Clinton will base their vote on an obscure email server mishandling, you are seriously, seriously, seriously delusional. At that point, no one remotely liberal gives a fuck about those emails, and everyone sees that this fake scandal is ridiculously and artificially inflated.

I do find it remarkable that the biggest advocates for saying that the email issue is fake and a witch hunt are... non-Americans.

Mishandling classified documents is actually a real issue and a lot of people care about it. Assuming 42% of people are just making stuff up is pretty off-base.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 12 2016 17:51 GMT
#85104
On July 13 2016 02:49 zeo wrote:
OK its starting again. Democrat talking about random things.

I am pretty sure this is a standard oversight hearing, so they can talk about whatever they want. It says so in the title of the hearing for the video you linked.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 12 2016 17:51 GMT
#85105
On July 13 2016 02:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

I'll have to ask an admin to ban me if I lose but it can be done.


it has been done. Cupon33s did it to himself
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 12 2016 17:51 GMT
#85106
On July 13 2016 02:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

I'll have to ask an admin to ban me if I lose but it can be done.


Well sir you have a deal to the following terms

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.


I think it's safe to assume if a 3rd candidate wins the bet is null-and-void as well.

shakes on it
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 12 2016 17:52 GMT
#85107
its whatevz on the scale of things

tbh clinton could choke out a dude and id still want her in office over trump
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
July 12 2016 17:52 GMT
#85108
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

Damn, can we up that to 270 then if i bet against you ?
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 12 2016 17:53 GMT
#85109
On July 13 2016 02:51 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:50 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

I'll have to ask an admin to ban me if I lose but it can be done.


it has been done. Cupon33s did it to himself

kupon3ss already had an estranged relationship with the rest of the ld staff/mods/admins and he asked for selfexile along with demotion, not a temporary thing

but ofc its possible; don't think kwark handles any essential functions, and if he did, he could still do them while not posting publicly
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 12 2016 17:53 GMT
#85110
On July 13 2016 02:52 kapibara-san wrote:
its whatevz on the scale of things

tbh clinton could choke out a dude and id still want her in office over trump

And that's all it comes down to. Hillary is the Not Trump candidate and has little going for her beyond that.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 12 2016 17:54 GMT
#85111
On July 13 2016 02:52 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

Damn, can we up that to 270 then if i bet against you ?


It would be 180 because Bill hasn't responded yet, but are you actually interested in this bet?
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 12 2016 17:54 GMT
#85112
On July 13 2016 02:53 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:52 kapibara-san wrote:
its whatevz on the scale of things

tbh clinton could choke out a dude and id still want her in office over trump

And that's all it comes down to. Hillary is the Not Trump candidate and has little going for her beyond that.

ye

im not gonna rationalize my position beyond what it is, you nailed it
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-12 17:56:31
July 12 2016 17:55 GMT
#85113
On July 13 2016 02:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:52 Godwrath wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

Damn, can we up that to 270 then if i bet against you ?


It would be 180 because Bill hasn't responded yet, but are you actually interested in this bet?

Sure deal.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42649 Posts
July 12 2016 17:56 GMT
#85114
On July 13 2016 02:52 kapibara-san wrote:
its whatevz on the scale of things

tbh clinton could choke out a dude and id still want her in office over trump

Pretty much. If it emerged that Clinton was literally for sale and that foreign governments could simply buy US government policy from her if she won I'd still trust those foreign governments over Trump. And I'm center right by any standard that doesn't force me to be really obsessively interested in abortions to qualify. I vote for the Conservatives in the UK. Trump is a trainwreck of populism and a fetishistic need to quench feelings of inadequacy created by the erosion of the privilege of the white Christian male in American society.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 12 2016 17:56 GMT
#85115
On July 13 2016 02:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:52 Godwrath wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

Damn, can we up that to 270 then if i bet against you ?


It would be 180 because Bill hasn't responded yet, but are you actually interested in this bet?

Clintons odds of winning are 3:1 btw.
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kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-12 17:59:12
July 12 2016 17:58 GMT
#85116
On July 13 2016 02:56 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:52 Godwrath wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

Damn, can we up that to 270 then if i bet against you ?


It would be 180 because Bill hasn't responded yet, but are you actually interested in this bet?

Clintons odds of winning are 3:1 btw.

brexit remain was actually similar on electionbettingodds.com recommended to me by eieio but then damn betters got rekt

i distinctly remember it being 75/25 the day before the vote
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 12 2016 18:00 GMT
#85117
On July 13 2016 02:55 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:52 Godwrath wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

Damn, can we up that to 270 then if i bet against you ?


It would be 180 because Bill hasn't responded yet, but are you actually interested in this bet?

Sure deal.


Alright I accept on the same terms I accepted with Kwark

So now it stands as either

I accept 180-day ban
or
Kwark and Godwrath accept 90-day ban

depending on the outcome of the election

*shakes hand*
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 12 2016 18:00 GMT
#85118
On July 13 2016 02:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

I'll have to ask an admin to ban me if I lose but it can be done.


this kind of made my day.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 12 2016 18:00 GMT
#85119
On July 13 2016 02:56 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:52 kapibara-san wrote:
its whatevz on the scale of things

tbh clinton could choke out a dude and id still want her in office over trump

Pretty much. If it emerged that Clinton was literally for sale and that foreign governments could simply buy US government policy from her if she won I'd still trust those foreign governments over Trump. And I'm center right by any standard that doesn't force me to be really obsessively interested in abortions to qualify. I vote for the Conservatives in the UK. Trump is a trainwreck of populism and a fetishistic need to quench feelings of inadequacy created by the erosion of the privilege of the white Christian male in American society.


so let me get this straight. you trust foreign governments who would do everything they can to abuse said information than a man who wants to put america first? Wew lad
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 12 2016 18:00 GMT
#85120
On July 13 2016 02:58 kapibara-san wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 02:56 CorsairHero wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:52 Godwrath wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Anyway. Sanders supporters apparently intend at 85% to vote for Clinton so I believe the race is basically over.


Another poster offered betting me a 90-day ban over this a couple weeks ago so I assume this is allowed.

I'm confident Trump is going to beat Hillary in November.

If Trump loses to Hillary, then I will accept a 90-day ban.
If Hillary loses to Trump, then you accept a 90-day ban.

If either isn't one of the candidates in November for any reason (Trump gets assassinated, Hillary is indicted etc etc) the bet is null and void.

Willing to bet on this?

I will take this.


LOL is that possible for a mod?

great I accept the deal then with Kwark

Bill if you're down too I'll still bet you

So the only difference is if I lose it goes up to a 180 day ban for me.

Damn, can we up that to 270 then if i bet against you ?


It would be 180 because Bill hasn't responded yet, but are you actually interested in this bet?

Clintons odds of winning are 3:1 btw.

brexit remain was actually similar on electionbettingodds.com recommended to me by eieio but then damn betters got rekt

i distinctly remember it being 75/25 the day before the vote

Makes you think about the accuracy in polling
I'm only mentioning this because it should be 300 day ban if Trump wins and 90 if Clinton wins. But if GG wants 1:1 then good for him.
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