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"We already know we need more resources for this fight. The professionals who keep us safe would be the first to say we need better intelligence to discover and disrupt terrorist plots before they can be carried out," Trump Clinton said.

"That’s why I’ve proposed an ‘intelligence surge’ to bolster our capabilities across the board, with appropriate safeguards here at home."

While Trump Clinton did not detail what her effort would entail, she said she wants technology companies to be more cooperative to government requests for help in countering online propaganda, tracking patterns in social media and intercepting communications.

On June 14 2016 08:09 Sermokala wrote:

yeah I don't see it as a problem until he has any actual responsibilities in government.

On June 14 2016 06:47 Plansix wrote:
A 140ish year old paper and he revokes their ability for access because he doesn't like their reporting on him. Just a preview of what he will do when he is in the White House, where they can revoke anyone's access. There is no rule requiring the press be allowed into the White House or the press briefing room be there.

The man is a thin skinned baby.

Donald Trump on Monday proposed punishing Americans if they don’t turn in their friends and neighbors for behaving suspiciously.

“In San Bernardino, people knew what was going on, they knew exactly, but they used the excuse of racial profiling for not reporting it,” Trump said during a speech in the wake of the Orlando mass shooting.

The presumptive GOP presidential nominee was presumably referring to unverified reports that a woman who lived near the mother of one of the San Bernardino shooters had noticed that the family received “quite a few packages within a short amount of time, and they were doing a lot of work out in the garage.”

A man who claimed to be friends with this neighbor said she did not report the packages and the behavior to authorities because she “didn’t want to do any kind of racial profiling.”

In Trump’s America, however, that woman would face serious consequences. “We need to make sure every single person involved in this plan, including anyone who knew something, but didn’t tell us, is brought to justice,” Trump said in New Hampshire. “These people need to have consequences, big consequences.”

Trump failed to mention that many of the San Bernardino shooters’ neighbors described them as “quiet, religious people who didn’t attract attention or suspicion.”

He also strayed slightly from the prepared remarks posted on his website, which read, “If it can be proven that somebody had information about any attack, and did not give this information to authorities, they must serve prison time.”

Trump’s proposal that Americans be forced to report their neighbors expands on an idea he’s been peddling since last year, when he told a crowd in South Carolina, “People move into a house a block down the road, you know who’s going in. You can see and you report them to the local police. Most likely you’ll be wrong, but that’s OK. That’s the best way. Everybody’s their own cop in a way.”[

Those earlier remarks, however, stopped short of proposing that people be punished for not informing on their neighbors — a hallmark of some of the most brutal and deadly regimes in history, including Nazi Germany and Russia under Joseph Stalin.

On June 14 2016 08:48 CannonsNCarriers wrote:


Yeah, after he is elected we can count on his ego being solid enough that he won't continue his thin-skinned recriminations against the press. The election will for sure change him for the better. No reason to hold him to a high standard now.

On June 14 2016 09:48 Nyxisto wrote:
I think it's funny that people are still accusing the critics of being biased or unfair when they draw totalitarian parallels when Trump literally throws this Stasi stuff out there every other day now. "Report your neighbor", yeah lets completely destroy the social fabric by turning everybody against each other, that sounds like a great idea.

On June 14 2016 09:22 oBlade wrote:
I mean, they titled an article "Donald Trump suggests President Obama was involved with Orlando shooting," it didn't just come out of nowhere. He engages with the press far more than HRC, who has hardly been holding any press conferences to kick people out of to begin with.

On June 14 2016 10:02 m4ini wrote:


Worked well in the GDR, didn't it.

But, to be fair. The US isn't actually that far behind the Stasi in the first place, so might as well go all the way.

On June 14 2016 10:04 Nyxisto wrote:


the only thing that's missing is the wall! ... oh wait

We need to make sure every single last person involved in this plan – including anyone who knew something but didn't tell us – is brought to justice.

If it can be proven that somebody had information about any attack, and did not give this information to authorities, they must serve prison time .

On June 14 2016 10:04 CannonsNCarriers wrote:


You may think you have lowered your standards enough for Trump today, but he will make you lower them. By the time Nov 9 rolls around he will have broken every last alleged principle you think you have. There is a reason the conservative intelligentsia has gone #NeverTrump. Stay on that train at your own peril.

On June 14 2016 11:25 oBlade wrote:

We're not talking about outing people for being secret Jews or something. Is it not already a crime not to report when someone discloses a terrorist conspiracy to you? I'm not really sure. But that seems like a straightforward and good thing to be able to prosecute. Aren't people with professional confidentiality, like doctors and lawyers, obligated to report threats to life?

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/help-prevent-terrorist-attacks


I'm not a conservative, so I wouldn't be bound by their hashtags. With respect to demanding a higher standard from Buzzfeed, Gawker, and the Huffington Post, our principles are definitely aligned.

On June 14 2016 11:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


Remember that story a few weeks ago about the woman who reported the terrorist on the airplane and saved the day? No you don't because she reported some guy doing math on a plane like a dumb ass.

The movies you watch where the average American saves the day doesn't happen in real life. You're just asking people to pollute our police and investigators with false reports. Penalties for not reporting will just increase these false reports.