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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 12 2016 13:45 GMT
#75941
Shortly before 9 a.m. Thursday, presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump arrived at the Republican National Committee's Washington office for his much-anticipated meeting with House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI).

Ryan has withheld his endorsement of the bombastic billionaire, prompting warnings from members of his own party in the House. He said he wants to use the meeting to start the unification of the party and for getting to know Trump.


“To pretend we're unified as a party after coming through a very bruising primary, which just ended like a week ago, to pretend we're unified without actually unifying, we go into the fall at half strength,” Ryan told reporters on Wednesday.

RNC Chair Reince Priebus is also expected to be present at the meeting.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 12 2016 13:52 GMT
#75942
I'm hoping that Ryan and Priebus try to get Trump to play ball, only to get stumped.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 12 2016 13:57 GMT
#75943
This Zimmerman dude is just a disgusting human being. I lived not to far from Sanford, and this guy was always getting into trouble with the law. Just ridiculous.
Life?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 12 2016 14:06 GMT
#75944
Election is over. Trump wins.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
May 12 2016 14:10 GMT
#75945
Still doesnt beat that guy who bought the cancer drugs licence and just to up the price by 5000%.
sorry for dem one liners
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 14:14:28
May 12 2016 14:12 GMT
#75946
On May 12 2016 22:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
This Zimmerman dude is just a disgusting human being. I lived not to far from Sanford, and this guy was always getting into trouble with the law. Just ridiculous.

Literally trash human who is the hero of other trash humans. I sort of hope someone purchases the gun just to destroy it.

On May 12 2016 23:10 NukeD wrote:
Still doesnt beat that guy who bought the cancer drugs licence and just to up the price by 5000%.


If being human garbage was a super power, they might be evenly matched.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
May 12 2016 14:13 GMT
#75947
On May 12 2016 23:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Election is over. Trump wins.

https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/730757552665939968

I dont understand the relevance of this. Would you mind explaining a bit?
sorry for dem one liners
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
May 12 2016 14:14 GMT
#75948
On May 12 2016 23:12 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 22:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
This Zimmerman dude is just a disgusting human being. I lived not to far from Sanford, and this guy was always getting into trouble with the law. Just ridiculous.

Literally trash human who is the hero of other trash humans. I sort of hope someone purchases the gun just to destroy it.

Or buys it to shoot Zimmerman with it!
sorry for dem one liners
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 12 2016 14:19 GMT
#75949
It would be sweet sweet irony if Zimmerman got shot by someone because he was a large threatening foreign guy
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 12 2016 14:20 GMT
#75950
On May 12 2016 23:14 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 23:12 Plansix wrote:
On May 12 2016 22:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
This Zimmerman dude is just a disgusting human being. I lived not to far from Sanford, and this guy was always getting into trouble with the law. Just ridiculous.

Literally trash human who is the hero of other trash humans. I sort of hope someone purchases the gun just to destroy it.

Or buys it to shoot Zimmerman with it!

I don’t want him dead, because I am not that person. But if the they could invent a gun that made it so he couldn’t make headlines any more, I’ll support that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
May 12 2016 14:24 GMT
#75951
Everyone who supported Zimmerman sinking in their chairs right now lol
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 12 2016 14:31 GMT
#75952
Some people love to point out that the “black community” supports some real bad people just because they are black. But pro-gun/self defense folks suffer from the same type of tribalism where they will back anyone who kills someone with a gun and it vaguely looks like it could be self defense. Even if it is abundantly clear that person is 100% human garbage.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 14:37:26
May 12 2016 14:32 GMT
#75953
On May 12 2016 23:24 Mohdoo wrote:
Everyone who supported Zimmerman sinking in their chairs right now lol

Based on the court proceedings, there was not enough evidence that he was guilty of murder or manslaughter according to the law.

Whether or not he is a detestable human being is another matter, and I was convinced that he was no more than about 2 months after the end of the suit. This is just running up the score in that regard.

On May 12 2016 23:31 Plansix wrote:
Some people love to point out that the “black community” supports some real bad people just because they are black. But pro-gun/self defense folks suffer from the same type of tribalism where they will back anyone who kills someone with a gun and it vaguely looks like it could be self defense. Even if it is abundantly clear that person is 100% human garbage.

Well, perhaps both groups support some real bad people due to a rather stupid sense of tribalism?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 12 2016 14:37 GMT
#75954
Zimmerman is clearly trolling his detractors. But was he not getting his head slammed into the pavement when he shot the guy?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 12 2016 14:38 GMT
#75955
On May 12 2016 22:52 Seuss wrote:
I'm hoping that Ryan and Priebus try to get Trump to play ball, only to get stumped.

Ryan better get his shit together and start backing Trump. He's in real danger of getting Canter'ed. The GOP establishment politicians aren't holding many cards right now. The sooner that they realize, the sooner that they'll start to rally around Trump and live to fight another day.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 12 2016 14:39 GMT
#75956
On May 12 2016 23:37 SK.Testie wrote:
Zimmerman is clearly trolling his detractors. But was he not getting his head slammed into the pavement when he shot the guy?

He desperately needs money to cover all of his debts. I don't blame him for selling the gun. He should never have been charged in the first place in the Zimmerman case.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 12 2016 14:39 GMT
#75957
There are plenty of dirt bag people who no one should support that don’t do anything criminal. This slob is was as the bleeding edge of that spectrum, right on the edge. And if the charge wasn’t murder, but some sort of reckless endangerment, it might have been a better case.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 14:42:13
May 12 2016 14:41 GMT
#75958
On May 12 2016 07:21 Plansix wrote:
Considering the group digging into it is a bunch of people on a website not using their real names, there could be more transparency all around. So I'll stick to the government agency with a phone number and far more accountability than the reddit mob.

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 07:20 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On May 12 2016 07:05 Plansix wrote:
On May 12 2016 07:03 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On May 12 2016 06:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 12 2016 06:16 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On May 12 2016 05:56 Godwrath wrote:
On May 12 2016 05:04 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Man for a guy who claims to want to take the corruption and money out of politics, Bernie Sanders has a lot of Illegal campaign donations

How are they illegal ? (Talking from ignorance)


Some of Bernie's donators are:
"Solar guy", "Rockstar", "Prophet at UNSELFISH", "Keyboard Specialist" (DMV), random strings of numbers, "Shrink", "Human Being", "IT Guy", "Figurehead", "POOR ASS STUDENT", "Bar Patron", "Web nerd", "Worker bee", Yale's locksmith, "OFFICE GAL", "REALTOR?", "Fulfillment", and "Seed Saver"

There's also repeat donors of people hitting the cap but donating anyway, etc...

non-names linked to random PO Box numbers, etc...

All donating to Bernie to both circumvent the cap as well as fake "individual contributions"


Those are what they put for their occupation isn't it?

It obviously is something entirely different than what he's talking about other than that the whole fundraising system is terrible.

He's not against money in politics whatsoever (no one is). Hes against the corrupting influence it has currently.

What about these requests from the fec indicates however much was illegally donated was to gain corrupting influence?

To be clear it's the perceived hypocrisy, not the using the rules to his advantage that made people think this was a story right?



Not all of those are occupations. There's someone named ACTBLUE who only has a po box and no other info about them who donated about 10+ times on april alone. This is literal fraud, this is literal campaign fraud. Bernie is being asked to pay it back, he is refusing. People are spending over the limit, non-citizens are spending.

The rules do not allow what he is doing. Literally does not allow it.

Please provide proof that he expressly states he is refusing to return the funds.


I guess the FEC asking to pay it back, repeatedly, while adding more people to the list he hasn't payed back is insufficient evidence.


As long as he sets aside the money he is supposed to return and keeps the FEC appraised, it should be fine. Its not like he can just spam out wire transfers, since most bank accounts will not accept those. Even if he sends it back in the form of a check, they might not cash it.

I know people are going to find this hard to believe, but it can be very hard to return money. We handle surpluses for banks all the time and a bunch of it gets sent to abandoned property because can't send it to anyone.


I am the proof of this!

I got $2 of state tax return this year.... however my state tax is actually exactly match, and the refund is from... 2012! I've been getting the $2 check every year for 4 year now and just can't be bothered to cash it. At this point it prob cost state 20 bucks to just send those damn things to me.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
May 12 2016 14:42 GMT
#75959
On May 12 2016 23:38 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 22:52 Seuss wrote:
I'm hoping that Ryan and Priebus try to get Trump to play ball, only to get stumped.

Ryan better get his shit together and start backing Trump. He's in real danger of getting Canter'ed. The GOP establishment politicians aren't holding many cards right now. The sooner that they realize, the sooner that they'll start to rally around Trump and live to fight another day.


Pretty sure Ryan is at like 75%+ in his district, which voted against Trump. He can do whatever he wants.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 12 2016 14:44 GMT
#75960
Yeah Ryan is super duper safe, probably the same level of safe as DWS lol
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