EPTin this thread Bernie supporters get shit on, yet on most social media canals(esp reddit) Hillary supporters get shit on.
neither are representative for the supporters on either side(hopefully).
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
in this thread Bernie supporters get shit on, yet on most social media canals(esp reddit) Hillary supporters get shit on. neither are representative for the supporters on either side(hopefully). | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15712 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:07 FiWiFaKi wrote: I'm a bit surprised at how many more people voting democrat than republican here. I know it's NY and all, but damn. Funny how Sanders would win NY today. I wonder how good an indicator primary voter turnout will be on general election this year. Turnout is so high that it might just be a repeat o.0 | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23293 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:07 oneofthem wrote: lol what do you mean? winning from behind? I'm saying she's already lost ~1% since that post, with less than 60%, she gets significantly less delegates than if she had gotten more. Also that he's not going to just endorse her and go away. After Trump savages Hillary for a couple months (either during the primary or after) the growing support may look better than the waning support of Hillary. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:10 Mohdoo wrote: Funny how Sanders would win NY today. I wonder how good an indicator primary voter turnout will be on general election this year. Turnout is so high that it might just be a repeat o.0 Supposedly not that good from what I've read, since earlier in the campaign Republicans were having way more voters and that there aren't many conclusions to draw from it. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23293 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:14 oneofthem wrote: i do hope you keep believing in that. i welcome a tea party of the left. would be fun. Won't be surprised if a few months from now (provided the superdelegates side with Hillary) Democrats are falling at Sanders supporters feet for not giving up and keeping him around as a viable alternative. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/04/19/watch-bernie-sanders-holds-news-conference-945-pm-vermont/83260964/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
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Falling
Canada11363 Posts
Or perhaps win the Iowa battle, but lose the bigger NY battle. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:18 ticklishmusic wrote: Bernie to speak in 30 http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/04/19/watch-bernie-sanders-holds-news-conference-945-pm-vermont/83260964/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter huh isnt it way past 9:45 pm in Vermon oh its on already. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23293 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:18 ticklishmusic wrote: Bernie to speak in 30 http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/04/19/watch-bernie-sanders-holds-news-conference-945-pm-vermont/83260964/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Bernie confirms he's not dropping out and still plans to win. Expresses serious concerns about the voting in New York and that the Comptroller also spoke about a rash of "irregularities". Concerns about ~30% of registered voters being excluded from today's voting. Hillary not so concerned about them not being able to participate. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:25 GreenHorizons wrote: Bernie confirms he's not dropping out and still plans to win. Expresses serious concerns about the voting in New York and that the Comptroller also spoke about a rash of "irregularities". Concerns about ~30% of registered voters being excluded from today's voting. Hillary not so concerned about them not being able to participate. Her campaign was talking about them all day but no matter how it turned out it did not matter. Even if it was enough to completely erase this deficit (which is unlikely but lets say somehow it draws him to a tie or even a 2 point win) then the deficit in pledged delagates is still far to big at this point in the election for him to come back on with proportional allocation especially with the coming states favoring her greatly. I agree its an issue and both sides spent all day complaining about it but at the end of the day its good this was discovered in an already decided primary instead of in a contested general election. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23293 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:28 Adreme wrote: Her campaign was talking about them all day but no matter how it turned out it did not matter. Even if it was enough to completely erase this deficit (which is unlikely but lets say somehow it draws him to a tie or even a 2 point win) then the deficit in pledged delagates is still far to big at this point in the election for him to come back on with proportional allocation especially with the coming states favoring her greatly. I agree its an issue and both sides spent all day complaining about it but at the end of the day its good this was discovered in an already decided primary instead of in a contested general election. Did Hillary say something about it I missed? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:28 Adreme wrote: Her campaign was talking about them all day but no matter how it turned out it did not matter. Even if it was enough to completely erase this deficit (which is unlikely but lets say somehow it draws him to a tie or even a 2 point win) then the deficit in pledged delagates is still far to big at this point in the election for him to come back on with proportional allocation especially with the coming states favoring her greatly. I agree its an issue and both sides spent all day complaining about it but at the end of the day its good this was discovered in an already decided primary instead of in a contested general election. That's because she needs to them to vote her or Cruz/Trump waltz right into the Oval office. Among Sander supporters her numbers are dismal. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: That's because she needs to them to vote her or Cruz/Trump waltz right into the Oval office. Among Sander supporters her numbers are dismal. I believe in 2008 Obama was doing far worse among Hilary's voters around this time to the point where there was a serious concern that Hilary voters going for McCain could be what loses democrats an unlosable election. As for the general I honestly do not think she is as much worried about Trump or Cruz winning (there numbers are so dismal i wouldnt even worry about it) but she is worried about Bernie supporters staying home and not voting thus not giving her the numbers in congress she needs to do things. At her core she is a pragmatist and this is the more logical concern so its probably why she was talking about having plans to implement versions of Bernies ideas in her speech to try and make herself more acceptable in a general. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13984 Posts
Dems should be a lot more scared looking at those numbers then they are now I think. I would think the argument between the base being too unhappy to show up vs being too pissed at trump to not vote is not the one they want the election to be about. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On April 20 2016 11:45 Sermokala wrote: you don't care for about half the parties base really not likeing the presumptive nominee? That's also the case for the Republican party, I really don't see how the alienation in the Democratic party is bigger than the respective Republican situation. Hillary doesn't need 100% of the Dem party she only needs to win the general election | ||
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