EPTsignal value would be lost and instruction low bar forces lower quality education, esp with inevitable grad rate pressure.
real world examples include cuny. the schools that take a ton of paying international students
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oneofthem
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signal value would be lost and instruction low bar forces lower quality education, esp with inevitable grad rate pressure. real world examples include cuny. the schools that take a ton of paying international students | ||
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Unfortunately, this one doesn't look at all the proposed changes but I think the picture is the same. Huge changes with Sanders, Trump and Cruz. For example, I lose around 10 percent under Sanders. Gain more than that under Trump. Also, if you find what's inaccurate about a calculator, show it. A oneliner that it's inaccurate helps no one (unless your only goal is to discredit the tool, but then we don't know whether you do it because of good will or because you want your favourite candidate to look better for selfish reasons). | ||
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On March 27 2016 03:36 Gorsameth wrote: Its easy to say "I pay less taxes under X" when that person wants to lower taxes, the real price is what programs gets cuts to make room. Or whether it's even possible to cut that much in this time span. In other words, those plans are unfeasible. | ||
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KwarK
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On March 27 2016 03:36 Gorsameth wrote: Its easy to say "I pay less taxes under X" when that person wants to lower taxes, the real price is what programs gets cuts to make room. Pretty much. Trump's tax plan would reduce taxes very little for most people because most people have very little income to pay taxes on. It would however absolutely destroy the revenue from the super rich who pay a very significant portion of all taxes. With tax revenue massively decreased the essential services that the lower income people rely on get cut. That tax calculator needs to also include tax revenue benefits. If you're paying 2k in taxes and receiving 5k in benefits reducing your taxes by 2k and benefits by 5k doesn't help you. | ||
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oneofthem
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wei2coolman
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On March 27 2016 03:04 oneofthem wrote: lowering admissions bar is one of the worst things you can do to the quality of a school. signal value would be lost and instruction low bar forces lower quality education, esp with inevitable grad rate pressure. real world examples include cuny. the schools that take a ton of paying international students Just look at how it significantly impacts schools that racial quotas for minorities. Pretty much any STEM major for racial minorities that got in because of affirmative action (or racial quotes) get squeezed out in the first two years into social studies majors because they're woefully underqualified for the majors, and are forced out of them due to poor grades and difficult classes; and instead of dropping out, and/or transferring to another school to fulfill their degree, they stick with the same college and change their degree, and get completely fucked when they finally graduate with a degree with a minimal job market. | ||
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Yurie
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On March 27 2016 04:31 wei2coolman wrote: Just look at how it significantly impacts schools that racial quotas for minorities. Pretty much any STEM major for racial minorities that got in because of affirmative action (or racial quotes) get squeezed out in the first two years into social studies majors because they're woefully underqualified for the majors, and are forced out of them due to poor grades and difficult classes; and instead of dropping out, and/or transferring to another school to fulfill their degree, they stick with the same college and change their degree, and get completely fucked when they finally graduate with a degree with a minimal job market. The people in my major that has quit or switched hasn't done it due to hard classes or similar issues (from talking to them). They have done it due to not liking the subjects after realising what the major is about. I can agree with your overall argument though. Even if you accept anybody it doesn't mean that even half of them will pass due to a variety of reasons. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On March 27 2016 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/StealthBlue/status/713801831021940736 Truth. So odds on Washington counting our votes faster than Arizona counts it's last "21%"? Anyway just got back from my caucus in WA. Looks like Hillary got crushed 2-3 : 1 in my district. Sounds pretty similar across the state so far. It's going to be a long two weeks if all the media is going to talk about is terrorism across the globe and Republicans and just pretend that there isn't a Democratic race where Hillary has started her slide. Since Arizona Kasich is getting more time just by being a tangential part of the Trump Cruz "drama" It's pathetic people are still defending the media. Despite bernie crushing it, it still appears there are several "irregularities" popping up across Washington. 3 Bernie supporters at my caucus drove 45 minutes to the wrong location after being told by Hillary's campaign that they were to come to my caucus. WA Is not too early/close to call either. Give me a break media... Bernie will definitely be gaining ground on the 538's delegate tracker today Hillary may fall below 100% before NY. Lol they aren't even showing their standard election graphic... How much more obvious could it be before folks stop being blind to it? BTW WA is not white like VT. | ||
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TRUMP: Well I was a fan as you probably know, I was a fan of Douglas MacArthur. I was a fan of George Patton. If we had Douglas MacArthur today or if we had George Patton today and if we had a president that would let them do their thing you wouldn’t have ISIS, O.K.? [...] SANGER: But the other day, I’m sorry, this morning, you suggested to us you would only use nuclear weapons as a last resort. TRUMP: Totally last resort. SANGER: And what did Douglas MacArthur advocate? TRUMP: I would hate, I would hate — SANGER: General MacArthur wanted to go use them against the Chinese and the North Koreans, not as a last resort. TRUMP: That’s right. He did. Yes, well you don’t know if he wanted to use them but he certainly said that at least. SANGER: He certainly asked Harry Truman if he could. TRUMP: Yeah, well, O.K.. He certainly talked it and was he doing that to negotiate, was he doing that to win? Perhaps. Perhaps. Was he doing that for what reason? I mean, I think he played, he did play the nuclear card but he didn’t use it, he played the nuclear card. He talked the nuclear card, did he do that to win? Maybe, maybe, you know, maybe that’s what got him victory. [...] Did you guys catch that? Apparently MacArthur was victorious against the Chinese in Korea. He totally did not get recalled by Truman and replaced by Ridgway, there was no stalemate near the 38th parallel, and MacArthur "played the nuclear card" with China, whatever that's supposed to mean. This guy is so ignorant it hurts. | ||
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Toadesstern
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So it IS voting right now and results soonish, right? | ||
Kipsate
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America is atleast -5 GMT do the math. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On March 27 2016 05:04 Toadesstern wrote: I've been wondering if I've got the day wrong the last hour or so. I usually check NYTimes or WashtingtonPost for all those nice graphics and nothing there, had to manually navigate there. So it IS voting right now and results soonish, right? I already finished in WA. ~7% of precincts are reporting. Pullman (biggest college east of Cascades) is in Whitman county and Kittitas County also has a Uni as well as Seattle (King) and Olympia (Thurston). | ||
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Toadesstern
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On March 27 2016 05:07 Kipsate wrote: Germany is +1 GMT America is atleast -5 GMT do the math. no need to do that when it has LIVE 4:12:39 PM ET right there  Like I said, was just weird that it's nowhere on the frontpages On March 27 2016 05:09 GreenHorizons wrote: I already finished in WA. ~7% of precincts are reporting. ah yeah just saw the update, thx | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On March 27 2016 05:13 Toadesstern wrote: no need to do that when it has LIVE 4:12:39 PM ET right there Like I said, was just weird that it's nowhere on the frontpages ah yeah just saw the update, thx It's only weird if one refuses to accept what I've been saying for months, otherwise this is exactly what one would expect. Also you're seeing delegate counts not actual vote totals btw. Now you're all starting to see why Hillary supporters were trying to push Bernie out of the race so hard last week  | ||
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kwizach
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On March 27 2016 05:13 Toadesstern wrote: no need to do that when it has LIVE 4:12:39 PM ET right there Like I said, was just weird that it's nowhere on the frontpages What do you mean? I see it on the front page of both the NYT and the Washington Post. | ||
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