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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
March 25 2016 07:20 GMT
#69101
On March 25 2016 16:02 IgnE wrote:
Introvert out of the woodwork to defend the reprehensible Cruz.


I've had lots of opportunity. I'm just amused that oneofthem hates him so much he's posting from the National Enquirer, lol.

Moreover, I'm fascinated by this "he just looks slimy" thing that people say. It's kind of odd. There's no reason to believe this, but people are some people are inclined to it. It's interesting.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
March 25 2016 07:25 GMT
#69102
On March 25 2016 16:20 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 16:02 IgnE wrote:
Introvert out of the woodwork to defend the reprehensible Cruz.


I've had lots of opportunity. I'm just amused that oneofthem hates him so much he's posting from the National Enquirer, lol.

Moreover, I'm fascinated by this "he just looks slimy" thing that people say. It's kind of odd. There's no reason to believe this, but people are some people are inclined to it. It's interesting.


Well that's not entirely true...


It’s hard to look at Ted Cruz’s face. He’s said to be a brilliant orator with a sharp legal mind. But his expression unsettles me. I understand that my reaction is visceral and automatic, but as a neurologist it is my business to notice things out of the ordinary and probe them. The Senator’s atypical expressions leave me uneasy.

It's remarkable how many colleagues and former associates say that they "loathe" Cruz. A Bush alumnus told The New York Times' Frank Bruni, “Why do people take such an instant dislike to Ted Cruz? It just saves time.” Former Senate Majority leader Bob Dole says, "Nobody likes him," while Rep. Peter King sees "malice" behind his visage. According to The Washington Post, screenwriter Craig Mazin, Cruz's former Princeton roommate, calls him a "huge asshole," and "creepy." He's Tweeted, "Getting emails blaming me for not smothering Ted Cruz in his sleep in 1988." The distaste for Cruz extends well beyond the US: Germans say Backpfeifengesicht, meaning a face in need of a good punch.


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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
March 25 2016 07:31 GMT
#69103
On March 25 2016 16:25 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 16:20 Introvert wrote:
On March 25 2016 16:02 IgnE wrote:
Introvert out of the woodwork to defend the reprehensible Cruz.


I've had lots of opportunity. I'm just amused that oneofthem hates him so much he's posting from the National Enquirer, lol.

Moreover, I'm fascinated by this "he just looks slimy" thing that people say. It's kind of odd. There's no reason to believe this, but people are some people are inclined to it. It's interesting.


Well that's not entirely true...

Show nested quote +

It’s hard to look at Ted Cruz’s face. He’s said to be a brilliant orator with a sharp legal mind. But his expression unsettles me. I understand that my reaction is visceral and automatic, but as a neurologist it is my business to notice things out of the ordinary and probe them. The Senator’s atypical expressions leave me uneasy.

It's remarkable how many colleagues and former associates say that they "loathe" Cruz. A Bush alumnus told The New York Times' Frank Bruni, “Why do people take such an instant dislike to Ted Cruz? It just saves time.” Former Senate Majority leader Bob Dole says, "Nobody likes him," while Rep. Peter King sees "malice" behind his visage. According to The Washington Post, screenwriter Craig Mazin, Cruz's former Princeton roommate, calls him a "huge asshole," and "creepy." He's Tweeted, "Getting emails blaming me for not smothering Ted Cruz in his sleep in 1988." The distaste for Cruz extends well beyond the US: Germans say Backpfeifengesicht, meaning a face in need of a good punch.


Source


I read the same article months ago. I find it fascinating because I don't share that opinion. In fact, I didn't think that about anyone running for office. But then again, perhaps I'm not looking at people and actively judging how punchable they are.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
March 25 2016 07:40 GMT
#69104
On March 25 2016 16:31 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 16:25 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 25 2016 16:20 Introvert wrote:
On March 25 2016 16:02 IgnE wrote:
Introvert out of the woodwork to defend the reprehensible Cruz.


I've had lots of opportunity. I'm just amused that oneofthem hates him so much he's posting from the National Enquirer, lol.

Moreover, I'm fascinated by this "he just looks slimy" thing that people say. It's kind of odd. There's no reason to believe this, but people are some people are inclined to it. It's interesting.


Well that's not entirely true...


It’s hard to look at Ted Cruz’s face. He’s said to be a brilliant orator with a sharp legal mind. But his expression unsettles me. I understand that my reaction is visceral and automatic, but as a neurologist it is my business to notice things out of the ordinary and probe them. The Senator’s atypical expressions leave me uneasy.

It's remarkable how many colleagues and former associates say that they "loathe" Cruz. A Bush alumnus told The New York Times' Frank Bruni, “Why do people take such an instant dislike to Ted Cruz? It just saves time.” Former Senate Majority leader Bob Dole says, "Nobody likes him," while Rep. Peter King sees "malice" behind his visage. According to The Washington Post, screenwriter Craig Mazin, Cruz's former Princeton roommate, calls him a "huge asshole," and "creepy." He's Tweeted, "Getting emails blaming me for not smothering Ted Cruz in his sleep in 1988." The distaste for Cruz extends well beyond the US: Germans say Backpfeifengesicht, meaning a face in need of a good punch.


Source


I read the same article months ago. I find it fascinating because I don't share that opinion. In fact, I didn't think that about anyone running for office. But then again, perhaps I'm not looking at people and actively judging how punchable they are.

I've learned that to judge Republican candidates, you are better off judging how they come off on a very visceral level than on how well their policies work. It's a pretty accurate depiction of how their base actually makes voting decisions, to a large extent.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 11:15:28
March 25 2016 11:10 GMT
#69105
On March 25 2016 15:21 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 11:08 oneofthem wrote:
On March 25 2016 10:55 Ghanburighan wrote:
On March 25 2016 10:43 oneofthem wrote:
yes, please go back to discussing ted cruz's sex scandal


In light of this article, will Cruz win or lose votes from this?

dude would get rekt lmfao. donald baited out some lovey dovey stuff from cruz, family man etc. then he can run that segment together with the five mistresses


Is the Cruz thing real or just National Enquirer?

On the subject of Cruz and rumors, I heard on a podcast or something that he owed thousands of dollars to some people at Princeton in poker debts and instead of paying them he reported them all to the IRS.

ne doesnt mean fake. they are reliable when it comes to politicians. edwards for example oif they run a fake story they'll get sued.

we'll see lol seems like it is blowing up right now
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RubickPicker
Profile Joined October 2015
United States332 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 11:46:06
March 25 2016 11:42 GMT
#69106
On March 25 2016 16:20 Introvert wrote:
Moreover, I'm fascinated by this "he just looks slimy" thing that people say. It's kind of odd. There's no reason to believe this, but people are some people are inclined to it. It's interesting.

He's jowly, which to Americans immediately brings to mind Richard Nixon. But Nixon had bushy eyebrows that weren't too far above his eyes, and more importantly he knew how to smile (so much so that Nixon's smile is now associated as the portrait of dishonesty.) Cruz has sort of a constrained smile his official portrait, because his mouth seems to normally arch down in a frowny expression, and when he tries to force it upwards he usually looks like the most smug guy ever.

He doesn't have to look this way, he doesn't always look that way, but it's really common that he looks less normal and more smug. And smug is a problem, because his entire engagement with the voters is to chastise other candidates for not being Ted Cruz. Even when his opponent is tilting the right wing into a fascist party, Cruz still leans on the "Donald is not a true conservative" rhetoric that he would have used against Jeb Bush or Lindsay Graham in a less controversial election.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 25 2016 13:00 GMT
#69107
The Cruz sex scandal story seems to have legs: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/24/the-national-enquirer-runs-story-of-multiple-ted-cruz-affairs/

If even half of it is true I can't think of a worse time for it to happen (if you're Republican establishment hoping to stop Trump). I mean, maybe Cruz will soldier on because he's shameless, but he's probably toast.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 25 2016 13:12 GMT
#69108
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy if it turns out to be true.

Also Lindsey Graham was hilarious on the Daily Show. That was some good shit.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 13:33:47
March 25 2016 13:18 GMT
#69109
On March 25 2016 22:12 Plansix wrote:
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy if it turns out to be true.

Also Lindsey Graham was hilarious on the Daily Show. That was some good shit.


Lindsey is actually a surprisingly funny dude. Mika was going after him hard on Morning Joe yesterday for backing Ted after being so heavily critical of him.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 13:19:19
March 25 2016 13:18 GMT
#69110
Cruz out from a scandal would be absolutely hilarious. Just imagine the Trump tweets.
RubickPicker
Profile Joined October 2015
United States332 Posts
March 25 2016 13:27 GMT
#69111
Trump can not exactly find room to talk (not that it's ever stopped him before.) He was having an affair with Marla Maples while still married to Ivana. There's no moral high ground here.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 25 2016 13:28 GMT
#69112
trump doesn't have to talk. twitter is already talking and you can't cover up a fire in this day and age.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
March 25 2016 13:40 GMT
#69113
Seems likely to me that Trump's previous attack on Heidi was aimed towards making Cruz make some 'I'm a family man' statement which now seems extremely hypocritical, basically making him dig his own hole.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 25 2016 13:44 GMT
#69114
top words
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
March 25 2016 13:46 GMT
#69115
(Assuming for the moment the Cruz affairs are real)
On one hand it would totally fit in the image I have of his character and his sleezyness.
But on the other hand most of his life seems to have been to shape a career politician. Surely keeping your dick in your pants would be a big part of that. Nothing can ruin careers like scandals.

Could cost him a fair few votes from the religious crowd (which was fairly strong for him?).
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 25 2016 13:50 GMT
#69116
As Utah demonstrated Cruz' primary support is the most conservative wing of the religious right. If the scandal is true he's toast. He won't lose all of them, some will circle the wagons because it's obvious lies told by the media to stop God from reclaiming the country, but most will abandon him.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 25 2016 13:52 GMT
#69117
Ah, a Cruz sex scandal, just what we needed to spice this up even a little more

also to me Cruz always looks somewhat somber/sad, never happy even when he tries.
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Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
March 25 2016 13:55 GMT
#69118
Didn't Cruz share the stage and shake hands with Kevin Swanson that homophobic lunatic? And if so why isn't people calling him out for it every time he makes an appearance.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
March 25 2016 13:58 GMT
#69119
Cruz fans have little to no problem with homophobia
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
March 25 2016 14:06 GMT
#69120
On March 25 2016 22:50 Seuss wrote:
As Utah demonstrated Cruz' primary support is the most conservative wing of the religious right. If the scandal is true he's toast. He won't lose all of them, some will circle the wagons because it's obvious lies told by the media to stop God from reclaiming the country, but most will abandon him.


And they will ask themselves why god let Obama ruin their country, turning Decent men like Cruz into adulterers.
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