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I think Cruz is trying to out-Trump Trump with the bizarre draconian unimplementable solutions to problems. Empowering law enforcement to "secure Muslim neighborhoods" and his campaign saying how he would do it is "self-explanatory?" How Cruz can build the buzzword of religious liberty and believe this is reasonable is a fascinating thing.
I would say it's also fascinating how far that is from any constitutional power enumerated for the President or the federal government, for that matter, but Cruz has never cared deeply for the Constitution.
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On March 23 2016 04:10 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 04:00 Plansix wrote:On March 23 2016 03:56 Mohdoo wrote:On March 23 2016 03:49 Surth wrote:On March 23 2016 03:17 Mohdoo wrote:
Your problems are not Europe's to solve. Syria is a mess. The Middle East is a mess. Europe has managed to develop e a beautiful civilization. Europe deserves to reap the success of its efforts, not be dragged down by the historic violence center of the world.
please, please read some history books. History is not relevant in this context. Civilizations and regions getting decimated by a foreign power is nothing new. You can't just keep digging up instances in history where someone may have been slanted and use it as a justification for something modern day. At one point you just gotta accept someone won and someone lost and move on. Europe has no incentive to be an overflow container for chaos in the middle east. Please read history books to learn why history is relevant in all geo-political discussions forever. So that I can understand all the complicated ways Europe managed to rip Africa to shreds? It's old news. Africa/middle east have been regularly victimized and I understand that. Their political unrest, both recently and historically are all results of western power struggles. However, that is consistent throughout history, wherein one group is pummeled and the winner reaps the rewards. My point is that Africa lost and Europe won - so move on and stop feeling guilty for our ancestors' glorious victories.
Its fine to understand history through the lens that Western civilization was not always ascendant and has ugly events in its past.
It is not fine to ascribe those acts to people who didn't commit them, its not fine to pretend that the rest of the world wasn't attempting to do the same, and its not fine to ascribe some sort of virtue to military and economic incompetency.
Its also not fine to ignore that almost 100% of the world's populace would be better off living the the West and thus making all filters seem illegitimate.
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On March 23 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
I legitimately think Cruz would be worse for the republican party than Trump. I don't understand how the GOP seems fine with Cruz. There's no way the establishment is scratching their chin and thinking "This guy can do it". I'm really happy about it, but I'm confused.
I think they're just stuck with him because none of their other politicians are getting respectable primary results.
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On March 23 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
I legitimately think Cruz would be worse for the republican party than Trump. I don't understand how the GOP seems fine with Cruz. There's no way the establishment is scratching their chin and thinking "This guy can do it". I'm really happy about it, but I'm confused.
Where are you getting the idea that the GOP is fine with Cruz?
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On March 23 2016 04:21 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
I legitimately think Cruz would be worse for the republican party than Trump. I don't understand how the GOP seems fine with Cruz. There's no way the establishment is scratching their chin and thinking "This guy can do it". I'm really happy about it, but I'm confused. I think they're just stuck with him because none of their other politicians are getting respectable primary results.
So Trump has gone further center than Cruz, has more wide-spread support than Cruz, yet Cruz is better? It really feels like the GOP has decided Trump can not the nominee, plain and simply, and that even a worse candidate is better because their last name isn't Trump.
On March 23 2016 04:23 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
I legitimately think Cruz would be worse for the republican party than Trump. I don't understand how the GOP seems fine with Cruz. There's no way the establishment is scratching their chin and thinking "This guy can do it". I'm really happy about it, but I'm confused. Where are you getting the idea that the GOP is fine with Cruz?
I suppose "fine" is being liberal (lolol), but they are at least helping him against Trump. The GOP seems totally fine with Cruz harming Trump. That's more so what I mean. My point is that I think Cruz is more toxic to the GOP than Trump.
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On March 23 2016 04:11 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 00:20 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Hillary Clinton’s campaign early Tuesday morning pushed back against reports that former President Bill Clinton called President Barack Obama’s policies “awful,” insisting that only Bernie Sanders' campaign would openly attack the sitting president.
At a campaign stop in Washington state Monday on behalf of his wife, Clinton highlighted the former secretary of state as a change-maker but acknowledged there may be a few reasons people wouldn’t support her. He added, however, that voters should support her “if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that,” according to USA Today.
Hillary Clinton campaign press secretary Brian Fallon sought to clarify early Tuesday that the former president was referring to Republican obstruction of Obama when he used the term “awful.”
“Sanders is only Dem in race who actually attacks @POTUS,” Fallon wrote, retweeting a report from The Hill in which Sanders criticized Bill Clinton for his comments regarding Obama.
Hillary Clinton often embraces Obama’s presidency on the trail. Sanders, meanwhile, hasn’t shied away from being critical of the president. But on Monday night he said he didn’t know that he’d “call President Obama’s 72 straight months of job growth an ‘awful legacy.’”
USA Today updated its report with a statement from Bill Clinton spokesman Angel Urena, who also maintained that Clinton was referring to Republican obstructionism.
Source Far Right PAC Releases Deceptive Video to Make It Seem Like Bill Clinton Was Bashing Obama
Sanders needs to fire his Twitter team tbh, they keep spreading misinformation. Not to mention the couple times they got owned by the Hillary Twitter. lol He sure the hell was talking about Obama. Funny, when the blurb was on that book no one in Hillary's camp cared about the context, they just spread the worst possible interpretation without the full quote. Bill was obviously saying that Hillary would be better than Obama at getting folks to work together, and certainly if he was talking about Bush and his legacy he was also talking about Obama and his. This is more of that faux outrage I've been talking about. I begin to understand how you can be so deluded as to think Sanders has a shot still. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tell me, what do you think of Bernie's new plan to win the election by peeling off fledged delegates and having superdelegates from states he won switch to him?
Lol thanks for the dodge. Well I think we should overhaul the whole nomination process, but you can't do it half way through a nomination. So the rules are the rules, gotta win within the rules. Sounds like a viable strategy to me.
Even if we suggest the math is impossible (it's not) she could get indicted at any moment or the Clinton foundation could be further incriminated for arms deals around donations to it while she was at state.
Bernie has to stay in it just in case 
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lol yea and she needs to be arrested right now
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So apparently, the Chinese government is using Trump to show its citizens that democracy is a bad idea. It pains me to say that I wouldn't know what to answer, because for once, they have a point.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/17/democracy-is-a-joke-says-china-just-look-at-donald-trump
I'm still in disbelief that so many people think it's a great idea to give the key of the White House to this clown. That's just absolutely amazing. I would blame low IQs and education level, but apparently not even, since apparently he does well in all categories of the conservative voters.
If anything, it shows that the American democracy is very, very sick.
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On March 23 2016 04:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:So apparently, the Chinese government is using Drumpf to show its citizens that democracy is a bad idea. It pains me to say that I wouldn't know what to answer, because for once, they have a point. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/17/democracy-is-a-joke-says-china-just-look-at-donald-trumpI'm still in disbelief that so many people think it's a great idea to give the key of the White House to this clown. That's just absolutely amazing. I would blame low IQs and education level, but apparently not even, since apparently he does well in all categories of the conservative voters. If anything, it shows that the American democracy is very, very sick.
I think it's safe to wait and see how the General goes before freaking out : ) Only a very small percentage of voters has actually weighed in so far.
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Anchor: If you do become president and you were in a situation like this, what would you do to protect America?
Trump: Well again, I think I said it. I would close up our borders to people until we figure out what is going on. Look at Brussels. Look at Paris. Look at so many cities that were great cities. Paris is almost, almost as bad. Paris is no longer the beautiful city of lights. Paris has got a lot of problems. ... You look at them, you look at it from any standpoint, they could be ISIS, they could be ISIS related. And you know, we just don’t learn. We don’t learn. Brussels is an amazing example. Brussels was an absolutely crime-free city. One of the most beautiful cities in the world. And now you look at it, it’s a disaster.
Now that's what I call a plan.
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On March 23 2016 04:24 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 04:21 oBlade wrote:On March 23 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
I legitimately think Cruz would be worse for the republican party than Trump. I don't understand how the GOP seems fine with Cruz. There's no way the establishment is scratching their chin and thinking "This guy can do it". I'm really happy about it, but I'm confused. I think they're just stuck with him because none of their other politicians are getting respectable primary results. So Trump has gone further center than Cruz, has more wide-spread support than Cruz, yet Cruz is better? It really feels like the GOP has decided Trump can not the nominee, plain and simply, and that even a worse candidate is better because their last name isn't Trump. Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 04:23 Gorsameth wrote:On March 23 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
I legitimately think Cruz would be worse for the republican party than Trump. I don't understand how the GOP seems fine with Cruz. There's no way the establishment is scratching their chin and thinking "This guy can do it". I'm really happy about it, but I'm confused. Where are you getting the idea that the GOP is fine with Cruz? I suppose "fine" is being liberal (lolol), but they are at least helping him against Trump. The GOP seems totally fine with Cruz harming Trump. That's more so what I mean. My point is that I think Cruz is more toxic to the GOP than Trump.
Well, all the candidates were absolutely disastrous. Remember that a couple of months ago, we thought that Ben Carson could be a serious contender. Even Kasich is arguably worse than Trump on the economy : he believes in hard money and that wages have stagnated recently because the interest rates were low (seriously...). And that it would have been a great idea to have a perfectly balanced budget in the worst crisis in 60 years. And so on.
What is shocking about Trump is the man. He is vulgar, dishonest, lies all the time, doesn't care at all about making sense and behaves like a 12 years old bully boy. But to be honest, I don't think he would make more damage in office than most of his rivals.
I always loathed the Republican Party, and I hope they keep doing terribly, but they need to put their shit together, because that circus is toxic for the whole democratic system.
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On March 23 2016 04:27 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 04:11 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 00:20 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Hillary Clinton’s campaign early Tuesday morning pushed back against reports that former President Bill Clinton called President Barack Obama’s policies “awful,” insisting that only Bernie Sanders' campaign would openly attack the sitting president.
At a campaign stop in Washington state Monday on behalf of his wife, Clinton highlighted the former secretary of state as a change-maker but acknowledged there may be a few reasons people wouldn’t support her. He added, however, that voters should support her “if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that,” according to USA Today.
Hillary Clinton campaign press secretary Brian Fallon sought to clarify early Tuesday that the former president was referring to Republican obstruction of Obama when he used the term “awful.”
“Sanders is only Dem in race who actually attacks @POTUS,” Fallon wrote, retweeting a report from The Hill in which Sanders criticized Bill Clinton for his comments regarding Obama.
Hillary Clinton often embraces Obama’s presidency on the trail. Sanders, meanwhile, hasn’t shied away from being critical of the president. But on Monday night he said he didn’t know that he’d “call President Obama’s 72 straight months of job growth an ‘awful legacy.’”
USA Today updated its report with a statement from Bill Clinton spokesman Angel Urena, who also maintained that Clinton was referring to Republican obstructionism.
Source Far Right PAC Releases Deceptive Video to Make It Seem Like Bill Clinton Was Bashing Obama
Sanders needs to fire his Twitter team tbh, they keep spreading misinformation. Not to mention the couple times they got owned by the Hillary Twitter. lol He sure the hell was talking about Obama. Funny, when the blurb was on that book no one in Hillary's camp cared about the context, they just spread the worst possible interpretation without the full quote. Bill was obviously saying that Hillary would be better than Obama at getting folks to work together, and certainly if he was talking about Bush and his legacy he was also talking about Obama and his. This is more of that faux outrage I've been talking about. I begin to understand how you can be so deluded as to think Sanders has a shot still. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tell me, what do you think of Bernie's new plan to win the election by peeling off fledged delegates and having superdelegates from states he won switch to him? Lol thanks for the dodge. Well I think we should overhaul the whole nomination process, but you can't do it half way through a nomination. So the rules are the rules, gotta win within the rules. Sounds like a viable strategy to me. Even if we suggest the math is impossible (it's not) she could get indicted at any moment or the Clinton foundation could be further incriminated for arms deals around donations to it while she was at state. Bernie has to stay in it just in case
Nothing to dodge, that's why. You're really stretching if you think Bill is trying to insult Obama. On the other hand, cute dodge about Bernie trying to steal the nomination. It's a plan even lousier than the maybe-Clinton-gets-in-trouble one.
It's quite sad to see how far he's fallen since the beginning of the race. I suppose the Clinton bashing is a change from his stump speech though.
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On March 23 2016 03:47 Luolis wrote:
“We need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized.”
Wait am i reading this right. In order to not radicalize these people, we should treat them separately from others ???
it is a huge waste of resources too
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On March 23 2016 04:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:So apparently, the Chinese government is using Trump to show its citizens that democracy is a bad idea. It pains me to say that I wouldn't know what to answer, because for once, they have a point. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/17/democracy-is-a-joke-says-china-just-look-at-donald-trumpI'm still in disbelief that so many people think it's a great idea to give the key of the White House to this clown. That's just absolutely amazing. I would blame low IQs and education level, but apparently not even, since apparently he does well in all categories of the conservative voters. If anything, it shows that the American democracy is very, very sick.
I think Chinese communist party propaganda would actually be evidence that the US democratic process is working fine.
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On March 23 2016 05:09 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 04:27 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 04:11 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 00:20 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Hillary Clinton’s campaign early Tuesday morning pushed back against reports that former President Bill Clinton called President Barack Obama’s policies “awful,” insisting that only Bernie Sanders' campaign would openly attack the sitting president.
At a campaign stop in Washington state Monday on behalf of his wife, Clinton highlighted the former secretary of state as a change-maker but acknowledged there may be a few reasons people wouldn’t support her. He added, however, that voters should support her “if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that,” according to USA Today.
Hillary Clinton campaign press secretary Brian Fallon sought to clarify early Tuesday that the former president was referring to Republican obstruction of Obama when he used the term “awful.”
“Sanders is only Dem in race who actually attacks @POTUS,” Fallon wrote, retweeting a report from The Hill in which Sanders criticized Bill Clinton for his comments regarding Obama.
Hillary Clinton often embraces Obama’s presidency on the trail. Sanders, meanwhile, hasn’t shied away from being critical of the president. But on Monday night he said he didn’t know that he’d “call President Obama’s 72 straight months of job growth an ‘awful legacy.’”
USA Today updated its report with a statement from Bill Clinton spokesman Angel Urena, who also maintained that Clinton was referring to Republican obstructionism.
Source Far Right PAC Releases Deceptive Video to Make It Seem Like Bill Clinton Was Bashing Obama
Sanders needs to fire his Twitter team tbh, they keep spreading misinformation. Not to mention the couple times they got owned by the Hillary Twitter. lol He sure the hell was talking about Obama. Funny, when the blurb was on that book no one in Hillary's camp cared about the context, they just spread the worst possible interpretation without the full quote. Bill was obviously saying that Hillary would be better than Obama at getting folks to work together, and certainly if he was talking about Bush and his legacy he was also talking about Obama and his. This is more of that faux outrage I've been talking about. I begin to understand how you can be so deluded as to think Sanders has a shot still. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tell me, what do you think of Bernie's new plan to win the election by peeling off fledged delegates and having superdelegates from states he won switch to him? Lol thanks for the dodge. Well I think we should overhaul the whole nomination process, but you can't do it half way through a nomination. So the rules are the rules, gotta win within the rules. Sounds like a viable strategy to me. Even if we suggest the math is impossible (it's not) she could get indicted at any moment or the Clinton foundation could be further incriminated for arms deals around donations to it while she was at state. Bernie has to stay in it just in case Nothing to dodge, that's why. You're really stretching if you think Bill is trying to insult Obama. On the other hand, cute dodge about Bernie trying to steal the nomination. It's a plan even lousier than the maybe-Clinton-gets-in-trouble one. It's quite sad to see how far he's fallen since the beginning of the race. I suppose the Clinton bashing is a change from his stump speech though.
It's not a stretch, anyone not in her camp can see it plain as day. Give me a break with the "Clinton bashing" too. This is nice compared to Hillary and Obama in 08
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On March 23 2016 05:13 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 05:09 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 04:27 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 04:11 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 00:20 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Hillary Clinton’s campaign early Tuesday morning pushed back against reports that former President Bill Clinton called President Barack Obama’s policies “awful,” insisting that only Bernie Sanders' campaign would openly attack the sitting president.
At a campaign stop in Washington state Monday on behalf of his wife, Clinton highlighted the former secretary of state as a change-maker but acknowledged there may be a few reasons people wouldn’t support her. He added, however, that voters should support her “if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that,” according to USA Today.
Hillary Clinton campaign press secretary Brian Fallon sought to clarify early Tuesday that the former president was referring to Republican obstruction of Obama when he used the term “awful.”
“Sanders is only Dem in race who actually attacks @POTUS,” Fallon wrote, retweeting a report from The Hill in which Sanders criticized Bill Clinton for his comments regarding Obama.
Hillary Clinton often embraces Obama’s presidency on the trail. Sanders, meanwhile, hasn’t shied away from being critical of the president. But on Monday night he said he didn’t know that he’d “call President Obama’s 72 straight months of job growth an ‘awful legacy.’”
USA Today updated its report with a statement from Bill Clinton spokesman Angel Urena, who also maintained that Clinton was referring to Republican obstructionism.
Source Far Right PAC Releases Deceptive Video to Make It Seem Like Bill Clinton Was Bashing Obama
Sanders needs to fire his Twitter team tbh, they keep spreading misinformation. Not to mention the couple times they got owned by the Hillary Twitter. lol He sure the hell was talking about Obama. Funny, when the blurb was on that book no one in Hillary's camp cared about the context, they just spread the worst possible interpretation without the full quote. Bill was obviously saying that Hillary would be better than Obama at getting folks to work together, and certainly if he was talking about Bush and his legacy he was also talking about Obama and his. This is more of that faux outrage I've been talking about. I begin to understand how you can be so deluded as to think Sanders has a shot still. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tell me, what do you think of Bernie's new plan to win the election by peeling off fledged delegates and having superdelegates from states he won switch to him? Lol thanks for the dodge. Well I think we should overhaul the whole nomination process, but you can't do it half way through a nomination. So the rules are the rules, gotta win within the rules. Sounds like a viable strategy to me. Even if we suggest the math is impossible (it's not) she could get indicted at any moment or the Clinton foundation could be further incriminated for arms deals around donations to it while she was at state. Bernie has to stay in it just in case Nothing to dodge, that's why. You're really stretching if you think Bill is trying to insult Obama. On the other hand, cute dodge about Bernie trying to steal the nomination. It's a plan even lousier than the maybe-Clinton-gets-in-trouble one. It's quite sad to see how far he's fallen since the beginning of the race. I suppose the Clinton bashing is a change from his stump speech though. It's not a stretch, anyone not in her camp can see it plain as day. Give me a break with the "Clinton bashing" too. This is nice compared to Hillary and Obama in 08
Oh that's unfortunate, given that the only minority Bernie seems to have won is his supporters.
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On March 23 2016 04:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:So apparently, the Chinese government is using Trump to show its citizens that democracy is a bad idea. It pains me to say that I wouldn't know what to answer, because for once, they have a point. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/17/democracy-is-a-joke-says-china-just-look-at-donald-trumpI'm still in disbelief that so many people think it's a great idea to give the key of the White House to this clown. That's just absolutely amazing. I would blame low IQs and education level, but apparently not even, since apparently he does well in all categories of the conservative voters. If anything, it shows that the American democracy is very, very sick.
Trump is still a farcry better push towards democracy than any bullshit single party candidate China can shit out.
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On March 23 2016 05:16 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 05:13 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 05:09 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 04:27 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 04:11 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 00:20 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Hillary Clinton’s campaign early Tuesday morning pushed back against reports that former President Bill Clinton called President Barack Obama’s policies “awful,” insisting that only Bernie Sanders' campaign would openly attack the sitting president.
At a campaign stop in Washington state Monday on behalf of his wife, Clinton highlighted the former secretary of state as a change-maker but acknowledged there may be a few reasons people wouldn’t support her. He added, however, that voters should support her “if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that,” according to USA Today.
Hillary Clinton campaign press secretary Brian Fallon sought to clarify early Tuesday that the former president was referring to Republican obstruction of Obama when he used the term “awful.”
“Sanders is only Dem in race who actually attacks @POTUS,” Fallon wrote, retweeting a report from The Hill in which Sanders criticized Bill Clinton for his comments regarding Obama.
Hillary Clinton often embraces Obama’s presidency on the trail. Sanders, meanwhile, hasn’t shied away from being critical of the president. But on Monday night he said he didn’t know that he’d “call President Obama’s 72 straight months of job growth an ‘awful legacy.’”
USA Today updated its report with a statement from Bill Clinton spokesman Angel Urena, who also maintained that Clinton was referring to Republican obstructionism.
Source Far Right PAC Releases Deceptive Video to Make It Seem Like Bill Clinton Was Bashing Obama
Sanders needs to fire his Twitter team tbh, they keep spreading misinformation. Not to mention the couple times they got owned by the Hillary Twitter. lol He sure the hell was talking about Obama. Funny, when the blurb was on that book no one in Hillary's camp cared about the context, they just spread the worst possible interpretation without the full quote. Bill was obviously saying that Hillary would be better than Obama at getting folks to work together, and certainly if he was talking about Bush and his legacy he was also talking about Obama and his. This is more of that faux outrage I've been talking about. I begin to understand how you can be so deluded as to think Sanders has a shot still. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tell me, what do you think of Bernie's new plan to win the election by peeling off fledged delegates and having superdelegates from states he won switch to him? Lol thanks for the dodge. Well I think we should overhaul the whole nomination process, but you can't do it half way through a nomination. So the rules are the rules, gotta win within the rules. Sounds like a viable strategy to me. Even if we suggest the math is impossible (it's not) she could get indicted at any moment or the Clinton foundation could be further incriminated for arms deals around donations to it while she was at state. Bernie has to stay in it just in case Nothing to dodge, that's why. You're really stretching if you think Bill is trying to insult Obama. On the other hand, cute dodge about Bernie trying to steal the nomination. It's a plan even lousier than the maybe-Clinton-gets-in-trouble one. It's quite sad to see how far he's fallen since the beginning of the race. I suppose the Clinton bashing is a change from his stump speech though. It's not a stretch, anyone not in her camp can see it plain as day. Give me a break with the "Clinton bashing" too. This is nice compared to Hillary and Obama in 08 Oh that's unfortunate, given that the only minority Bernie seems to have won is his supporters.
Alright...?
Are they even going to show the results tonight? I noticed CNN took down it's countdown to election coverage once these bombings happened and haven't put it back up since.
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There's absolutely no chance Bill was bashing Obama. Obama is very popular with liberals right now. Even from the most scheming and manipulative standpoint, Bill would not bash Obama right now. The Clinton machine is all about winning elections no matter what. Bashing Obama is bad for that. Even the Bernie bots on Reddit seem to be like "yeah, I hate Clinton, but that's not what the shit head was saying  ". Usually the stuff I see on /r/S4P is stuff I later go on to hear GH say, but this is the first time I am seeing GH be the only one saying some sorta Clinton related thing.
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On March 23 2016 05:16 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 05:13 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 05:09 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 04:27 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 04:11 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 03:57 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 23 2016 00:20 ticklishmusic wrote:On March 23 2016 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Hillary Clinton’s campaign early Tuesday morning pushed back against reports that former President Bill Clinton called President Barack Obama’s policies “awful,” insisting that only Bernie Sanders' campaign would openly attack the sitting president.
At a campaign stop in Washington state Monday on behalf of his wife, Clinton highlighted the former secretary of state as a change-maker but acknowledged there may be a few reasons people wouldn’t support her. He added, however, that voters should support her “if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that,” according to USA Today.
Hillary Clinton campaign press secretary Brian Fallon sought to clarify early Tuesday that the former president was referring to Republican obstruction of Obama when he used the term “awful.”
“Sanders is only Dem in race who actually attacks @POTUS,” Fallon wrote, retweeting a report from The Hill in which Sanders criticized Bill Clinton for his comments regarding Obama.
Hillary Clinton often embraces Obama’s presidency on the trail. Sanders, meanwhile, hasn’t shied away from being critical of the president. But on Monday night he said he didn’t know that he’d “call President Obama’s 72 straight months of job growth an ‘awful legacy.’”
USA Today updated its report with a statement from Bill Clinton spokesman Angel Urena, who also maintained that Clinton was referring to Republican obstructionism.
Source Far Right PAC Releases Deceptive Video to Make It Seem Like Bill Clinton Was Bashing Obama
Sanders needs to fire his Twitter team tbh, they keep spreading misinformation. Not to mention the couple times they got owned by the Hillary Twitter. lol He sure the hell was talking about Obama. Funny, when the blurb was on that book no one in Hillary's camp cared about the context, they just spread the worst possible interpretation without the full quote. Bill was obviously saying that Hillary would be better than Obama at getting folks to work together, and certainly if he was talking about Bush and his legacy he was also talking about Obama and his. This is more of that faux outrage I've been talking about. I begin to understand how you can be so deluded as to think Sanders has a shot still. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tell me, what do you think of Bernie's new plan to win the election by peeling off fledged delegates and having superdelegates from states he won switch to him? Lol thanks for the dodge. Well I think we should overhaul the whole nomination process, but you can't do it half way through a nomination. So the rules are the rules, gotta win within the rules. Sounds like a viable strategy to me. Even if we suggest the math is impossible (it's not) she could get indicted at any moment or the Clinton foundation could be further incriminated for arms deals around donations to it while she was at state. Bernie has to stay in it just in case Nothing to dodge, that's why. You're really stretching if you think Bill is trying to insult Obama. On the other hand, cute dodge about Bernie trying to steal the nomination. It's a plan even lousier than the maybe-Clinton-gets-in-trouble one. It's quite sad to see how far he's fallen since the beginning of the race. I suppose the Clinton bashing is a change from his stump speech though. It's not a stretch, anyone not in her camp can see it plain as day. Give me a break with the "Clinton bashing" too. This is nice compared to Hillary and Obama in 08 Oh that's unfortunate, given that the only minority Bernie seems to have won is his supporters.
That's what he gets for not owning the news networks and DNC. If they had treated Bernie with half the seriousness they treated the two pet clowns they hired for the first debate then Hillary wouldn't have stood a chance.
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