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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 02 2016 05:20 GMT
#62241
On March 02 2016 14:10 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 14:07 Jibba wrote:
On March 02 2016 14:06 Doodsmack wrote:
Pretty sure multiple posters just defended those Trump quotes. Which tells you something about those posters, because the quotes are self-explanatory, there's no misinterpreting them. Hopefully, for the good of mankind, there are not enough voters similar to these posters who will vote for Trump on Nov 6.

There won't be. Don't fret over it.

I haven't been reading this thread very much but a few of the people who defended those quotes used to be, in my mind, credible posters at least on other topics.

It just broke my heart. One of them in particular, I won't say which... I liked the guy, I liked some of his posts. And now he posts this and it just broke me... Like, the vitriol, the fucking hate is too much. You have otherwise reasonable people who've gone full out crazy.

I think this whole thing around Trump is a profoundly sad state of affairs. The anti-establishment I can understand. But the lack of concern for other people, the hate... Sick fucking shit.

Is it me? You can PM me the answer if you want.

On March 02 2016 14:10 Jibba wrote:
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On March 02 2016 14:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 14:06 Doodsmack wrote:
Pretty sure multiple posters just defended those Trump quotes. Which tells you something about those posters, because the quotes are self-explanatory, there's no misinterpreting them. Hopefully, for the good of mankind, there are not enough voters similar to these posters who will vote for Trump on Nov 6.

Good job buddy. You posted some quotes, we gave rational explanations, and now you fuck off as if you've the higher ground in this argument.

I'm seeing more and more people come out of the woodwork. Actually surprised to see the substantial amount of support Trump has on a college campus.

For my own curiosity, do you think it's good foreign policy to target the families of supposed or known terrorists?

As a foreign policy, it's hard to say. I'm on the fence about it. On one hand, it plays right into the terrorists' propaganda since the families didn't technically do anything. On the other hand, it's ridiculous when the families are fully aware of their relatives' plans and do nothing about it or even encourage it. I'm really unsure.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 02 2016 05:22 GMT
#62242
On March 02 2016 14:14 kwizach wrote:
I'm not sure if those are only currently-counted votes, or if they include projections:


Might differ in magnitude by about 10-20%, most of the states are coming close to 100.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 02 2016 05:22 GMT
#62243
Of all of the people in this thread who are anti-Trump, I'm pretty sure that less than five of them actually have a good, working understanding of him, his strategy,and his appeal.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 02 2016 05:23 GMT
#62244
https://giant.gfycat.com/ShrillSpicyGoitered.webm

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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 05:27:33
March 02 2016 05:27 GMT
#62245
I'm insanely curious who he'll pick as his running mate.

I can't see it being Christie.

Hillary should go after someone like Hagel.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 05:29:54
March 02 2016 05:28 GMT
#62246
On March 02 2016 14:22 xDaunt wrote:
Of all of the people in this thread who are anti-Trump, I'm pretty sure that less than five of them actually have a good, working understanding of him, his strategy,and his appeal.

I don't know how people wouldn't have at least a decent understanding of him. Seems to me like people tend to understand what he's doing and why but they just fundamentally disagree for very obvious reasons...

But coming from you actually it seems like you're just being patronizing. That's my working understanding of you, your strategy and your appeal. Clever.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 02 2016 05:29 GMT
#62247
There's no way Trump picks Christie, he's made Christie his bitch and Christie really regrets endorsing Trump now.

Christie is basically Reek from GoT now.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 02 2016 05:29 GMT
#62248
On March 02 2016 14:27 Jibba wrote:
I'm insanely curious who he'll pick as his running mate.

I can't see it being Christie.

Hillary should go after someone like Hagel.


Hegel is an idea. I could maybe get onboard with that.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 02 2016 05:29 GMT
#62249
On March 02 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
https://giant.gfycat.com/ShrillSpicyGoitered.webm


Too fucking hilarious. Not sure to be amazed that we can literally meme a person into presidency, or that disturbed that we're so close to a meme president.
liftlift > tsm
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 02 2016 05:29 GMT
#62250
On March 02 2016 14:28 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 14:22 xDaunt wrote:
Of all of the people in this thread who are anti-Trump, I'm pretty sure that less than five of them actually have a good, working understanding of him, his strategy,and his appeal.

I don't know how people wouldn't have at least a decentunderstanding of him. Seems to me like people tend to understand what he's doing and why but they just fundamentally disagree for very obvious reasons...

Compare oneofthem's posts to doodsmack's posts. Or Deathstar's posts. Or Plansix's posts.

I rest my case.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 05:31:19
March 02 2016 05:30 GMT
#62251
On March 02 2016 14:28 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 14:22 xDaunt wrote:
Of all of the people in this thread who are anti-Trump, I'm pretty sure that less than five of them actually have a good, working understanding of him, his strategy,and his appeal.

I don't know how people wouldn't have a good understanding of him.

I think some people take him at his word.

The business stuff is the most obvious example. They're enamored with him being a great business leader, kind of like people are with Mark Cuban. For the record, I think both are pretty poor executives. Like, the things he describes just don't make sense to anyone actually involved in them. But if you're not familiar with that world, it's not hard to buy it.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 02 2016 05:31 GMT
#62252
On March 02 2016 14:30 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 14:28 Djzapz wrote:
On March 02 2016 14:22 xDaunt wrote:
Of all of the people in this thread who are anti-Trump, I'm pretty sure that less than five of them actually have a good, working understanding of him, his strategy,and his appeal.

I don't know how people wouldn't have a good understanding of him.

I think some people take him at his word.

The business stuff is the most obvious example. They're enamored with him being a great business leader, kind of like people are with Mark Cuban. For the record, I think both are pretty poor executives.


They're both bubble billionaires

At least Mark Cuban is a decent human being
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 02 2016 05:31 GMT
#62253
On March 02 2016 14:29 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 14:28 Djzapz wrote:
On March 02 2016 14:22 xDaunt wrote:
Of all of the people in this thread who are anti-Trump, I'm pretty sure that less than five of them actually have a good, working understanding of him, his strategy,and his appeal.

I don't know how people wouldn't have at least a decentunderstanding of him. Seems to me like people tend to understand what he's doing and why but they just fundamentally disagree for very obvious reasons...

Compare oneofthem's posts to doodsmack's posts. Or Deathstar's posts. Or Plansix's posts.

I rest my case.

You're telling me you can extrapolate "<5 have a working understanding of the man and where he's going" from those 4 people who post content of varying quality?
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 02 2016 05:32 GMT
#62254
I think it's debatable whether Mark Cuban is a better human being than Donald Trump.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11369 Posts
March 02 2016 05:32 GMT
#62255
Trump is making people in this thread lose their minds.

A modicum of courtesy is still required when discussing ones opposition however passionately that opposition is held.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 02 2016 05:33 GMT
#62256
On March 02 2016 14:27 Jibba wrote:
I'm insanely curious who he'll pick as his running mate.

I can't see it being Christie.

Hillary should go after someone like Hagel.

My money's on Christie trying to go back for his old attorney general gig.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 02 2016 05:33 GMT
#62257
On March 02 2016 14:30 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 14:28 Djzapz wrote:
On March 02 2016 14:22 xDaunt wrote:
Of all of the people in this thread who are anti-Trump, I'm pretty sure that less than five of them actually have a good, working understanding of him, his strategy,and his appeal.

I don't know how people wouldn't have a good understanding of him.

I think some people take him at his word.

The business stuff is the most obvious example. They're enamored with him being a great business leader, kind of like people are with Mark Cuban. For the record, I think both are pretty poor executives. Like, the things he describes just don't make sense to anyone actually involved in them. But if you're not familiar with that world, it's not hard to buy it.

Well I understand that many people who post here certainly can't see the big picture but fewer than 5? Seems like it's just xDaunt's way to say he thinks it's a bunch of dumbasses without addressing anything they're saying (and without naming them directly). Saves time and effort I guess.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 05:36:34
March 02 2016 05:34 GMT
#62258
On March 02 2016 14:31 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 14:29 xDaunt wrote:
On March 02 2016 14:28 Djzapz wrote:
On March 02 2016 14:22 xDaunt wrote:
Of all of the people in this thread who are anti-Trump, I'm pretty sure that less than five of them actually have a good, working understanding of him, his strategy,and his appeal.

I don't know how people wouldn't have at least a decentunderstanding of him. Seems to me like people tend to understand what he's doing and why but they just fundamentally disagree for very obvious reasons...

Compare oneofthem's posts to doodsmack's posts. Or Deathstar's posts. Or Plansix's posts.

I rest my case.

You're telling me you can extrapolate "<5 have a working understanding of the man and where he's going" from those 4 people who post content of varying quality?

Only one of those posters that I listed has a working knowledge of Trump. The others clearly don't. I was merely illustrating my point that some people get him and some don't.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 02 2016 05:35 GMT
#62259
On March 02 2016 14:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 14:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
https://giant.gfycat.com/ShrillSpicyGoitered.webm


Too fucking hilarious. Not sure to be amazed that we can literally meme a person into presidency, or that disturbed that we're so close to a meme president.

The memes are building every election cycle. Obama won in '08 with his social media presence, 2012 was at the height of when memes first went mainstream with Memebase and stuff, tons of fun there, and now Trump's actually claimed Pepe as his own. Not sure if Bernie ever acknowledged it but he's been portrayed a lot as the Feels Guy as a counterpoint.

2020 will probably be danker IMO.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 02 2016 05:38 GMT
#62260
On March 02 2016 14:27 Jibba wrote:
I'm insanely curious who he'll pick as his running mate.

I can't see it being Christie.

Hillary should go after someone like Hagel.


Nothing will prove how progressive she is than picking a VP like Hagel. That'll really turn out the disaffected Bernie Sanders supporters!

Also, no way Trump picks Christie. He's just gonna make him his bitch and discard him when needed
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