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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 14 2015 01:36 GMT
#47841
On October 14 2015 10:34 Acrofales wrote:
Sanders caught flatfooted there. Wtf. Putin will regret this? Whut?


If Russia tries to become the dominant super power meddling in the region they will feel the shit hitting the fan just like the US has so its a very real possibility.
Never Knows Best.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 14 2015 01:36 GMT
#47842
If Biden doesn't run, does Obama endorse Clinton?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 14 2015 01:40 GMT
#47843
On October 14 2015 10:31 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 10:30 Mohdoo wrote:
IMO, Clinton was right to vote for more force in Iraq and Afghanistan. We left too early and we've been paying for it. Staying there is NOT the same issue as going there in the first place. I feel like people started equating staying to starting and not addressing what we may have created by leaving.

You're not going to hear a democrat admit that because it is too damning to Obama (and by extension, Hillary to a degree).

Staying their longer wouldn't have fixed anything unless we wanted to be there for the next 25 years. And the US people are straight up not willing to pay for that.
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 14 2015 01:42 GMT
#47844
Webb's answer to national security one of the first good things he said.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 01:43:33
October 14 2015 01:42 GMT
#47845
Yeah, I get why people want to act like it was a choice to leave Iraq in retrospect, but at the time, it wasn't a choice. It was mandated. (And staying there wasn't providing any long-term answers, I don't get what people think it would have solved).

I thought Bernie answered the Vietnam-objector question well.

Big water
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 14 2015 01:43 GMT
#47846
On October 14 2015 10:42 Leporello wrote:
Yeah, I get why people want to act like it was a choice to leave Iraq in retrospect, but at the time, it wasn't a choice. It was mandated.

I thought Bernie answered the Vietnam-objector question well.



This is hilariously wrong. No one with any aptitude for foreign policy agrees with this.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
October 14 2015 01:44 GMT
#47847
Global Climate change as the greatest threat? Uninhabitable planet? Hyperbole much?

I agree that climate change is a very serious issue, but that hyperbole was just stupid, and exposes him to a fact check that he will lose.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 01:49:12
October 14 2015 01:45 GMT
#47848
On October 14 2015 10:43 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 10:42 Leporello wrote:
Yeah, I get why people want to act like it was a choice to leave Iraq in retrospect, but at the time, it wasn't a choice. It was mandated.

I thought Bernie answered the Vietnam-objector question well.



This is hilariously wrong. No one with any aptitude for foreign policy agrees with this.


Yes, Daunt, I remember your complete appeal-to-authority on this issue as well.

Too bad your authority and aptitude doesn't matter. No one wanted us in Iraq at that point (rightfully). That's what a mandate is. Obama promised to leave and then he got elected, largely on that promise.
Big water
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 01:48:39
October 14 2015 01:47 GMT
#47849
On October 14 2015 10:44 Acrofales wrote:
Global Climate change as the greatest threat? Uninhabitable planet? Hyperbole much?

I agree that climate change is a very serious issue, but that hyperbole was just stupid, and exposes him to a fact check that he will lose.


well its not just uninhabitable planet. just look at sea levels rising and the amount of people who are going to be displaced. and we think the refugee problem is bad now. saying uninhabitable planet is a bit much though.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 14 2015 01:48 GMT
#47850
On October 14 2015 10:36 jalstar wrote:
If Biden doesn't run, does Obama endorse Clinton?

unlikely during the primary. He'll wait for the primary to be over and endorse whoever wins it for the Dems.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 14 2015 01:48 GMT
#47851
lol Bernie.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 14 2015 01:48 GMT
#47852
Hillary is just laughing all the way to the bank right now. Every question is one any competent candidate would have prepared for and no candidate is willing to call her out for flip flops, or willing to call out Obama/his administration on anything.
Freeeeeeedom
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 14 2015 01:49 GMT
#47853
Bernie won't play your fucking games!
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
October 14 2015 01:49 GMT
#47854
On October 14 2015 10:47 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 10:44 Acrofales wrote:
Global Climate change as the greatest threat? Uninhabitable planet? Hyperbole much?

I agree that climate change is a very serious issue, but that hyperbole was just stupid, and exposes him to a fact check that he will lose.


well its not just uninhabitable planet. just look at sea levels rising and the amount of people who are going to be displaced. and we think the refugee problem is bad now. saying uninhabitable planet is a bit much though.

And that is true and what I was expecting him to say. But he went with the entire planet being uninhabitable...
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 14 2015 01:50 GMT
#47855
The way Bernie says "Anderson" I just want him to start giving orders to him. ANDERSON! Get me a water~!
Never Knows Best.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
October 14 2015 01:50 GMT
#47856
Bernie! :D
Great response.
Big water
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5028 Posts
October 14 2015 01:51 GMT
#47857
To me it seems that defending Hillary on this front is politically popular. if you want the DNC nomination.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Eskendereya
Profile Joined August 2015
United States97 Posts
October 14 2015 01:51 GMT
#47858
This hand picked pro-Hillary crowd is sickening. These drones will clap no matter what she says. It can't get anymore scripted and obvious.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 14 2015 01:51 GMT
#47859
Hah, all of these democrats are a bunch of pussies. They're going to let the republicans do their dirty work for them on the email thing.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
October 14 2015 01:55 GMT
#47860
On October 14 2015 10:51 Eskendereya wrote:
This hand picked pro-Hillary crowd is sickening. These drones will clap no matter what she says. It can't get anymore scripted and obvious.

I'm hearing bigger reactions to Sanders responses.
I think it's just a friendly crowd.
Big water
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