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On May 09 2015 01:16 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 21:39 always_winter wrote:
Hahaha the birth control debate is in full effect! Inb4 things escalated quickly gif.
Allow me, humbly, to submit my two cents absent an empirical study and/or senior thesis on the subject.
People have urges, bruh. Every living thing on this planet, barring the asexual species who just bang themselves or some shit (again, not a scientist), have urges. I rescued 6 grey tree frogs last summer, two of which are male and now that it's spring call non-stop, begging the females, "cmon let's fuck, I'm over here baby let's fuck."
If you think people are not going to have sex without contraceptives as some sort of incentive (lol), you, sir, are mistaken. Every high school in America basically has a yoga pants dress code- you expect those horny little fucks not to act on their urges? Please. There's a reason I wore sweat pants everyday to college classes. Inb4 erection is showing gif (movie is too damn quotable).
It's cool that you guys were raised super religious and oppose this shit on some sort of spiritual, Jesus level. I was too. At some point you just gotta look yourself in the face and say, "When in Rome (really can't help myself)" and maybe take the wheel back from Jesus for a second and just let reality take its course. One love. I think it's funny you assume we're super religious. I'm an atheist. I'm willing to bet that Wegandi isn't coming at this from a religious perspective either, considering he hasn't mentioned it at all. I have no moral qualms about sex before marriage or whatever bullshit you think.
That's an interesting choice for a post to respond to. I just want to clear some things up if you are going to dig back in. Before we listen about stuff you don't want to pay for, maybe you could answer these?
1. Do you earn a living with a job?
2. Do you pay taxes on that earned living?
3. Have you had sex?
Those might be too personal for you to answer which is fine, I just think their answers would provide context for your argument.
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Are yoga pants really the de facto dress code in high schools these days???
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What gets me is that if you really are a space genius member of the middle class like myself who takes personal responsibility for things then there really isn't any obligation to pay a cent on Federal taxes on the first $50,000 or so you earn. Most of the people who bitch about taxes have never taken the time to read the tax code. They're pretty much voluntary until you start pushing 1%er territory. If you hate taxes so much then stop paying them. It's really not that hard. Of course that would mean actually taking some initiative, deciding that you're not completely helpless and maybe even educating yourself. The plebs are far happier just crying about it on the internet. It's far easier for them to believe that they're incapable.
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On May 09 2015 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 01:16 Millitron wrote:On May 08 2015 21:39 always_winter wrote:
Hahaha the birth control debate is in full effect! Inb4 things escalated quickly gif.
Allow me, humbly, to submit my two cents absent an empirical study and/or senior thesis on the subject.
People have urges, bruh. Every living thing on this planet, barring the asexual species who just bang themselves or some shit (again, not a scientist), have urges. I rescued 6 grey tree frogs last summer, two of which are male and now that it's spring call non-stop, begging the females, "cmon let's fuck, I'm over here baby let's fuck."
If you think people are not going to have sex without contraceptives as some sort of incentive (lol), you, sir, are mistaken. Every high school in America basically has a yoga pants dress code- you expect those horny little fucks not to act on their urges? Please. There's a reason I wore sweat pants everyday to college classes. Inb4 erection is showing gif (movie is too damn quotable).
It's cool that you guys were raised super religious and oppose this shit on some sort of spiritual, Jesus level. I was too. At some point you just gotta look yourself in the face and say, "When in Rome (really can't help myself)" and maybe take the wheel back from Jesus for a second and just let reality take its course. One love. I think it's funny you assume we're super religious. I'm an atheist. I'm willing to bet that Wegandi isn't coming at this from a religious perspective either, considering he hasn't mentioned it at all. I have no moral qualms about sex before marriage or whatever bullshit you think. That's an interesting choice for a post to respond to. I just want to clear some things up if you are going to dig back in. Before we listen about stuff you don't want to pay for, maybe you could answer these? 1. Do you earn a living with a job? 2. Do you pay taxes on that earned living? 3. Have you had sex? Those might be too personal for you to answer which is fine, I just think their answers would provide context for your argument.
1. I am searching for a job now. It's harder than I expected, I'm in too small of a town to have many programming jobs available.
2. No, see above.
3. Nope. Haven't really thought too much about it either.
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On May 09 2015 01:32 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 09 2015 01:16 Millitron wrote:On May 08 2015 21:39 always_winter wrote:
Hahaha the birth control debate is in full effect! Inb4 things escalated quickly gif.
Allow me, humbly, to submit my two cents absent an empirical study and/or senior thesis on the subject.
People have urges, bruh. Every living thing on this planet, barring the asexual species who just bang themselves or some shit (again, not a scientist), have urges. I rescued 6 grey tree frogs last summer, two of which are male and now that it's spring call non-stop, begging the females, "cmon let's fuck, I'm over here baby let's fuck."
If you think people are not going to have sex without contraceptives as some sort of incentive (lol), you, sir, are mistaken. Every high school in America basically has a yoga pants dress code- you expect those horny little fucks not to act on their urges? Please. There's a reason I wore sweat pants everyday to college classes. Inb4 erection is showing gif (movie is too damn quotable).
It's cool that you guys were raised super religious and oppose this shit on some sort of spiritual, Jesus level. I was too. At some point you just gotta look yourself in the face and say, "When in Rome (really can't help myself)" and maybe take the wheel back from Jesus for a second and just let reality take its course. One love. I think it's funny you assume we're super religious. I'm an atheist. I'm willing to bet that Wegandi isn't coming at this from a religious perspective either, considering he hasn't mentioned it at all. I have no moral qualms about sex before marriage or whatever bullshit you think. That's an interesting choice for a post to respond to. I just want to clear some things up if you are going to dig back in. Before we listen about stuff you don't want to pay for, maybe you could answer these? 1. Do you earn a living with a job? 2. Do you pay taxes on that earned living? 3. Have you had sex? Those might be too personal for you to answer which is fine, I just think their answers would provide context for your argument. 1. I am searching for a job now. It's harder than I expected, I'm in too small of a town to have many programming jobs available. 2. No, see above. 3. Nope. Haven't really thought too much about it either.
You're the one who chose to study programming in a town without much programming. Maybe own your mistake and get a job flipping burgers while you reassess your choices.
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Chicago to pay $5.5M to victims of police torture
Chicago will pay a total of up to $5.5 million to dozens of people, almost all black men, tortured by the city's police in the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s, and make other reparations under an ordinance approved by the city council on Wednesday that is the first of its kind in the U.S..
“It is the first time that a municipality in the United States has ever offered reparations to those violated by law enforcement officials,” said Joey Mogul, a co-founder of Chicago Torture Justice Memorials, partner at the People’s Law Office and drafter of the original reparations ordinance.
According to the Chicago Reporter the ordinance “draws from the United Nations Convention against Torture and human rights practices around the world, especially in nations that overcame the legacy of violent, repressive regimes.”
Last year, the United Nations Committee Against Torture called for its passage.
“We should, in fact, call them international human rights violations, Mogul told the Reporter. "So we can put it on the world stage and compare it to other atrocities elsewhere, because they are equivalent.”
The ordinance also calls for the city to provide psychological counseling, job placement aid and other services for torture victims.
“We are strong enough to say we were wrong,” Mayor Rahm Emanuel said after the vote. “Chicago will finally confront its past and come to terms with it.”
Chicago has long struggled to build trust between police and minority communities, and approval of the ordinance comes at a time of increased scrutiny on police use of force in the United States, particularly against black men.
Chicago and Cook County already have paid about $100 million in settlements and verdicts for lawsuits related to former Chicago police Cdr. Jon Burge.
From 1972 through 1991, Burge and his officers allegedly tortured more than 100 African-Americans from the city’s impoverished South Side, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Men in custody were subjected to electric shocks, burns and mock executions, among other brutal acts, predominantly in order to extract confessions, reported The Guardian.
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Justice Department Opens Pattern or Practice Investigation into the Baltimore Police Department
Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch announced today that the Justice Department has opened a civil pattern or practice investigation into Baltimore Police Department (BPD), pursuant to the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. The department’s investigation of BPD will seek to determine whether there are systemic violations of the Constitution or federal law by officers of BPD. The investigation will focus on BPD’s use of force, including deadly force, and its stops, searches and arrests, as well as whether there is a pattern or practice of discriminatory policing.
While the pattern or practice investigation is ongoing, the department’s Office of Community Oriented Policing will continue to work with BPD and the collaborative reform process that was started in October 2014 will convert to the provision of technical assistance to the BPD allowing for changes and improvements even as the pattern or practice investigation is underway.
“Our goal is to work with the community, public officials and law enforcement alike to create a stronger, better Baltimore,” said Attorney General Loretta Lynch. “The Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division has conducted dozens of these pattern or practice investigations, and we have seen from our work in jurisdictions across the country that communities that have gone through this process are experiencing improved policing practices and increased trust between the police and the community. In fact, I encourage other cities to study our past recommendations and see whether they can be applied in their own communities. Ultimately, this process is meant to ensure that officers are being provided with the tools they need – including training, policy guidance and equipment – to be more effective, to partner with civilians and to strengthen public safety.”
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Can race issues with police be a pattern of problems across the nation yet or is it still just bad apples and bullshit 'masteracebaitors'?
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On May 09 2015 01:32 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 09 2015 01:16 Millitron wrote:On May 08 2015 21:39 always_winter wrote:
Hahaha the birth control debate is in full effect! Inb4 things escalated quickly gif.
Allow me, humbly, to submit my two cents absent an empirical study and/or senior thesis on the subject.
People have urges, bruh. Every living thing on this planet, barring the asexual species who just bang themselves or some shit (again, not a scientist), have urges. I rescued 6 grey tree frogs last summer, two of which are male and now that it's spring call non-stop, begging the females, "cmon let's fuck, I'm over here baby let's fuck."
If you think people are not going to have sex without contraceptives as some sort of incentive (lol), you, sir, are mistaken. Every high school in America basically has a yoga pants dress code- you expect those horny little fucks not to act on their urges? Please. There's a reason I wore sweat pants everyday to college classes. Inb4 erection is showing gif (movie is too damn quotable).
It's cool that you guys were raised super religious and oppose this shit on some sort of spiritual, Jesus level. I was too. At some point you just gotta look yourself in the face and say, "When in Rome (really can't help myself)" and maybe take the wheel back from Jesus for a second and just let reality take its course. One love. I think it's funny you assume we're super religious. I'm an atheist. I'm willing to bet that Wegandi isn't coming at this from a religious perspective either, considering he hasn't mentioned it at all. I have no moral qualms about sex before marriage or whatever bullshit you think. That's an interesting choice for a post to respond to. I just want to clear some things up if you are going to dig back in. Before we listen about stuff you don't want to pay for, maybe you could answer these? 1. Do you earn a living with a job? 2. Do you pay taxes on that earned living? 3. Have you had sex? Those might be too personal for you to answer which is fine, I just think their answers would provide context for your argument. 1. I am searching for a job now. It's harder than I expected, I'm in too small of a town to have many programming jobs available. 2. No, see above. 3. Nope. Haven't really thought too much about it either.
Just move to a new town.
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On May 09 2015 01:37 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 01:32 Millitron wrote:On May 09 2015 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 09 2015 01:16 Millitron wrote:On May 08 2015 21:39 always_winter wrote:
Hahaha the birth control debate is in full effect! Inb4 things escalated quickly gif.
Allow me, humbly, to submit my two cents absent an empirical study and/or senior thesis on the subject.
People have urges, bruh. Every living thing on this planet, barring the asexual species who just bang themselves or some shit (again, not a scientist), have urges. I rescued 6 grey tree frogs last summer, two of which are male and now that it's spring call non-stop, begging the females, "cmon let's fuck, I'm over here baby let's fuck."
If you think people are not going to have sex without contraceptives as some sort of incentive (lol), you, sir, are mistaken. Every high school in America basically has a yoga pants dress code- you expect those horny little fucks not to act on their urges? Please. There's a reason I wore sweat pants everyday to college classes. Inb4 erection is showing gif (movie is too damn quotable).
It's cool that you guys were raised super religious and oppose this shit on some sort of spiritual, Jesus level. I was too. At some point you just gotta look yourself in the face and say, "When in Rome (really can't help myself)" and maybe take the wheel back from Jesus for a second and just let reality take its course. One love. I think it's funny you assume we're super religious. I'm an atheist. I'm willing to bet that Wegandi isn't coming at this from a religious perspective either, considering he hasn't mentioned it at all. I have no moral qualms about sex before marriage or whatever bullshit you think. That's an interesting choice for a post to respond to. I just want to clear some things up if you are going to dig back in. Before we listen about stuff you don't want to pay for, maybe you could answer these? 1. Do you earn a living with a job? 2. Do you pay taxes on that earned living? 3. Have you had sex? Those might be too personal for you to answer which is fine, I just think their answers would provide context for your argument. 1. I am searching for a job now. It's harder than I expected, I'm in too small of a town to have many programming jobs available. 2. No, see above. 3. Nope. Haven't really thought too much about it either. You're the one who chose to study programming in a town without much programming. Maybe own your mistake and get a job flipping burgers while you reassess your choices.
Wasn't it mentioned earlier that Millitron was on government disability, taking handouts from big brother to sit around doing nothing?
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On May 09 2015 01:55 BallinWitStalin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 01:37 KwarK wrote:On May 09 2015 01:32 Millitron wrote:On May 09 2015 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 09 2015 01:16 Millitron wrote:On May 08 2015 21:39 always_winter wrote:
Hahaha the birth control debate is in full effect! Inb4 things escalated quickly gif.
Allow me, humbly, to submit my two cents absent an empirical study and/or senior thesis on the subject.
People have urges, bruh. Every living thing on this planet, barring the asexual species who just bang themselves or some shit (again, not a scientist), have urges. I rescued 6 grey tree frogs last summer, two of which are male and now that it's spring call non-stop, begging the females, "cmon let's fuck, I'm over here baby let's fuck."
If you think people are not going to have sex without contraceptives as some sort of incentive (lol), you, sir, are mistaken. Every high school in America basically has a yoga pants dress code- you expect those horny little fucks not to act on their urges? Please. There's a reason I wore sweat pants everyday to college classes. Inb4 erection is showing gif (movie is too damn quotable).
It's cool that you guys were raised super religious and oppose this shit on some sort of spiritual, Jesus level. I was too. At some point you just gotta look yourself in the face and say, "When in Rome (really can't help myself)" and maybe take the wheel back from Jesus for a second and just let reality take its course. One love. I think it's funny you assume we're super religious. I'm an atheist. I'm willing to bet that Wegandi isn't coming at this from a religious perspective either, considering he hasn't mentioned it at all. I have no moral qualms about sex before marriage or whatever bullshit you think. That's an interesting choice for a post to respond to. I just want to clear some things up if you are going to dig back in. Before we listen about stuff you don't want to pay for, maybe you could answer these? 1. Do you earn a living with a job? 2. Do you pay taxes on that earned living? 3. Have you had sex? Those might be too personal for you to answer which is fine, I just think their answers would provide context for your argument. 1. I am searching for a job now. It's harder than I expected, I'm in too small of a town to have many programming jobs available. 2. No, see above. 3. Nope. Haven't really thought too much about it either. You're the one who chose to study programming in a town without much programming. Maybe own your mistake and get a job flipping burgers while you reassess your choices. Wasn't it mentioned earlier that Millitron was on government disability, taking handouts from big brother to sit around doing nothing?
And I'm fine with some other scrub who couldn't be bothered to read the tax code funding that if he's genuinely disabled.
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On May 09 2015 01:27 IgnE wrote:
Are yoga pants really the de facto dress code in high schools these days???
A little less than a decade ago, the go-to outfit for most girls was the school letterjacket / sweater + absurdly-short shorts. Yoga pants are more of a winter thing here.
I still have no idea why they always wore those jackets.
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NYC guy here:
Yoga pants everywhereeeeeee
Moving to shorts and miniskirts now though
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On May 09 2015 01:16 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2015 21:39 always_winter wrote:
Hahaha the birth control debate is in full effect! Inb4 things escalated quickly gif.
Allow me, humbly, to submit my two cents absent an empirical study and/or senior thesis on the subject.
People have urges, bruh. Every living thing on this planet, barring the asexual species who just bang themselves or some shit (again, not a scientist), have urges. I rescued 6 grey tree frogs last summer, two of which are male and now that it's spring call non-stop, begging the females, "cmon let's fuck, I'm over here baby let's fuck."
If you think people are not going to have sex without contraceptives as some sort of incentive (lol), you, sir, are mistaken. Every high school in America basically has a yoga pants dress code- you expect those horny little fucks not to act on their urges? Please. There's a reason I wore sweat pants everyday to college classes. Inb4 erection is showing gif (movie is too damn quotable).
It's cool that you guys were raised super religious and oppose this shit on some sort of spiritual, Jesus level. I was too. At some point you just gotta look yourself in the face and say, "When in Rome (really can't help myself)" and maybe take the wheel back from Jesus for a second and just let reality take its course. One love. I think it's funny you assume we're super religious. I'm an atheist. I'm willing to bet that Wegandi isn't coming at this from a religious perspective either, considering he hasn't mentioned it at all. I have no moral qualms about sex before marriage or whatever bullshit you think.
No doubt, no doubt. In that case you might want to ask yourself whether your tax money should be spent preventing an unwanted pregnancy or funding the unwanted child until he/she is eighteen. There's also a difference in cost involved, I'll let you guess which would be more expensive.
To mah otha brotha from anotha motha whom I cannot quote due to phone limitations, yoga pants are most def. the de facto dress code on high school and college campuses these days. Much to my approval. Kappa.
User was warned for this post
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On May 09 2015 02:57 JinDesu wrote:
Moving to shorts and miniskirts now though
The gods are good.
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The jackets provide a modicum of modesty and insulate against any awkwardness with their own bodies.
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PHILADELPHIA—Calling the contraction of the disease “not good,” and saying that not having the illness is highly preferable to having it, oncologists representing the American Association for Cancer Research urged the U.S. populace Monday not to get cancer.
The panel, which consisted of medical experts at the top of their respective fields in cancer research, education, surgery, chemotherapy, and radiotherapy, addressed the media for 45 minutes, saying that people’s best hope in terms of living a long, cancer-free life is to never develop cancerous cells in any part of the body, ever.
“After years of closely studying this illness and learning about how it grows and arbitrarily attacks vital organs throughout the body at an uncontrollable rate until one eventually dies, we have concluded that not having cancer is the best way to go,” said Dr. Robert Bertino, who specializes in molecular biology at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. “If you are going to contract a harmful illness, get diagnosed with Crohn’s disease, meningitis, or even Type 2 diabetes. Anything but cancer. Cancer is just the worst.”
“A lot of people die from it,” he added. “It’s bad.”
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Basically the argument Millitron is making.
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on the general topic of agency as it relates to moral responsibility, i'll recommend this blog for contemporary philosophical discussion of the subject.
http://philosophycommons.typepad.com/flickers_of_freedom/
now it is easier to make negative arguments against folk concept of self and agency, harder to construct a positive theory or even to state it.
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On May 09 2015 01:32 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 09 2015 01:16 Millitron wrote:On May 08 2015 21:39 always_winter wrote:
Hahaha the birth control debate is in full effect! Inb4 things escalated quickly gif.
Allow me, humbly, to submit my two cents absent an empirical study and/or senior thesis on the subject.
People have urges, bruh. Every living thing on this planet, barring the asexual species who just bang themselves or some shit (again, not a scientist), have urges. I rescued 6 grey tree frogs last summer, two of which are male and now that it's spring call non-stop, begging the females, "cmon let's fuck, I'm over here baby let's fuck."
If you think people are not going to have sex without contraceptives as some sort of incentive (lol), you, sir, are mistaken. Every high school in America basically has a yoga pants dress code- you expect those horny little fucks not to act on their urges? Please. There's a reason I wore sweat pants everyday to college classes. Inb4 erection is showing gif (movie is too damn quotable).
It's cool that you guys were raised super religious and oppose this shit on some sort of spiritual, Jesus level. I was too. At some point you just gotta look yourself in the face and say, "When in Rome (really can't help myself)" and maybe take the wheel back from Jesus for a second and just let reality take its course. One love. I think it's funny you assume we're super religious. I'm an atheist. I'm willing to bet that Wegandi isn't coming at this from a religious perspective either, considering he hasn't mentioned it at all. I have no moral qualms about sex before marriage or whatever bullshit you think. That's an interesting choice for a post to respond to. I just want to clear some things up if you are going to dig back in. Before we listen about stuff you don't want to pay for, maybe you could answer these? 1. Do you earn a living with a job? 2. Do you pay taxes on that earned living? 3. Have you had sex? Those might be too personal for you to answer which is fine, I just think their answers would provide context for your argument. 1. I am searching for a job now. It's harder than I expected, I'm in too small of a town to have many programming jobs available. 2. No, see above. 3. Nope. Haven't really thought too much about it either.
well this explains a lot
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The pop psych gurus are at it again. No compassion for the 'enemy,' just the usual label and attack. It's almost comical how quickly the guns come out when you're not a privileged victim group or bleeding heart lib.
Hope you're able to find some work, Mill, while looking for that job. Whether it's a move or other avenues in job skills and education, all the best.
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On May 09 2015 04:29 Danglars wrote:
The pop psych gurus are at it again. No compassion for the 'enemy,' just the usual label and attack. It's almost comical how quickly the guns come out when you're not a privileged victim group or bleeding heart lib.
Hope you're able to find some work, Mill, while looking for that job. Whether it's a move or other avenues in job skills and education, all the best.
or maybe it's because lack of life experience can affect your views on the world
by the way mil, if you're still in school I recommend looking at IT positions. even though they aren't programming you can learn some things about networking and databases, potentially
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On May 09 2015 04:31 Chocolate wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 04:29 Danglars wrote:
The pop psych gurus are at it again. No compassion for the 'enemy,' just the usual label and attack. It's almost comical how quickly the guns come out when you're not a privileged victim group or bleeding heart lib.
Hope you're able to find some work, Mill, while looking for that job. Whether it's a move or other avenues in job skills and education, all the best. or maybe it's because lack of life experience can affect your views on the world by the way mil, if you're still in school I recommend looking at IT positions. even though they aren't programming you can learn some things about networking and databases, potentially
There is nothing more bullshit in the world then people using the term "life experience".
And yeah IT is where you should probably look. If you're a programmer you know more then enough to Handel small town IT needs.
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