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It sucks that the shit that the wire highlighted almost 10 years ago is still happening and not being fixed.
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Alan Zegas, David Wildstein's attorney, reiterated today that Gov. Chris Christie knew about the George Washington Bridge lane closures that led to the Bridgegate scandal.
Christie "knew of the lane closures as they occurred" and "evidence exists" that proves it, Zegas said after his client pleaded guilty, although he did not say that Christie knew about the motive for the lane closures.
Zegas did not expand upon the comments, but it's not the first time that Wildstein and Zegas contended that Christie knew about the lane closures.
Zegas first suggested Christie knew about the lane closures on Jan. 31, 2014 about three weeks after the dramatic press conference in which the governor denied responsibility and knowledge of the plan.
The attorney did not indicate Christie ordered the closures or was aware of the motive, now determined by prosecutors to be political payback against Sokolich.
"Evidence exists ... tying Mr. Christie to having knowledge of the lane closures, during
the period when the lanes were closed, contrary to what the governor stated publicly in a two-hour press conference," Zegas wrote in a carefully worded letter last year.
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baltimore officers that were charged.
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I really wish one of them had a long flowing mullet.
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Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved.
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On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved.
I guess that is the result of the investigation. If they knew he needed medical attention and did not ensure he got it then they are liable, regardless of their involvement in him getting injured.
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On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved.
The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me).
I feel bad for Geraldo's security though.
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On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though.
You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify.
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On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify.
Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here.
So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop.
+ Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough.
So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter.
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On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter.
So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights?
The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person
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On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person
Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie?
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On May 03 2015 16:50 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie?
Why are the police officers charged if Freddie's rights didn't matter?
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On May 03 2015 17:31 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 16:50 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie? Why are the police officers charged if Freddie's rights didn't matter?
sarcasm.
They care about their rights to not testify but they didn't care about Freddie's rights.
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On May 03 2015 17:51 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 17:31 Ghostcom wrote:On May 03 2015 16:50 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie? Why are the police officers charged if Freddie's rights didn't matter? sarcasm. They care about their rights to not testify but they didn't care about Freddie's rights.
It's part of a general trend where certain rights (equality, liberty, security) are used only to a certain extent and by increasingly limited groups. Equality is used to justify ending affirmative action. Liberty is used to justify anti-gay discrimination. Security is used to justify police brutality. However, these rights always seem to become much more flexible when you're dealing with people of color/queer community/other marginalized groups.
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On May 03 2015 16:50 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie?
So lets not give anyone a fair trial. I mean, they didn't consider their victims rights, why should we consider theirs? Lets just start hanging people as soon as they're accused.
I'm surprised you're following this train of logic. You're the one with a deep-seated distrust of the justice system, and yet you want to restrict protections of the accused.
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On May 04 2015 00:40 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 16:50 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie? So lets not give anyone a fair trial. I mean, they didn't consider their victims rights, why should we consider theirs? Lets just start hanging people as soon as they're accused. I'm surprised you're following this train of logic. You're the one with a deep-seated distrust of the justice system, and yet you want to restrict protections of the accused.
No he wants their employer to hold them to the actual standard of employment. A person that is willingly keeping crimes committed by others a secret is per definition not fit to be police.
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You don't have a right to be a police officer.
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On May 04 2015 01:13 puerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 00:40 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 16:50 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie? So lets not give anyone a fair trial. I mean, they didn't consider their victims rights, why should we consider theirs? Lets just start hanging people as soon as they're accused. I'm surprised you're following this train of logic. You're the one with a deep-seated distrust of the justice system, and yet you want to restrict protections of the accused. No he wants their employer to hold them to the actual standard of employment. A person that is willingly keeping crimes committed by others a secret is per definition not fit to be police.
That sounds like punishing someone for not testifying against himself to me.
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On May 04 2015 01:31 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 01:13 puerk wrote:On May 04 2015 00:40 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 16:50 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie? So lets not give anyone a fair trial. I mean, they didn't consider their victims rights, why should we consider theirs? Lets just start hanging people as soon as they're accused. I'm surprised you're following this train of logic. You're the one with a deep-seated distrust of the justice system, and yet you want to restrict protections of the accused. No he wants their employer to hold them to the actual standard of employment. A person that is willingly keeping crimes committed by others a secret is per definition not fit to be police. That sounds like punishing someone for not testifying against himself to me.
From the history of posts in this thread: everything sounds like something else to you than it is.
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On May 04 2015 01:31 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 01:13 puerk wrote:On May 04 2015 00:40 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 16:50 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 12:22 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 11:08 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 10:54 Millitron wrote:On May 03 2015 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On May 03 2015 06:37 killa_robot wrote:
Wonder why all of them are being charged. I only recall around 3 of them really being involved. The typical prosecutor does something like this to try to get someone to flip. You tell the defendants the worst charges you might be able to prove in order to get them to testify. I imagine she is especially doing this since officers in a recent shooting refused to testify (how that doesn't take away ones ability to be a cop is beyond me). I feel bad for Geraldo's security though. You can't be forced to testify against yourself. Nothing wrong with them refusing to testify. Except they are paid public protectors. I don't have a problem with them not testifying (legally) my problem is that they could refuse to testify an then get their gun and badge handed back. There is 0 reason for a public protector not to testify unless it is protecting the public which there is no chance of that here. So sure don't testify, just don't expect to have a job as a cop. + Show Spoiler +Just a quick fyi there are about to be a lot of arrests tonight. They are going to be white people refusing their 3rd/4th personal warning from police. 4th warning with a show of force was enough. So weird to see the constant reference to some of the police officers being black (like it was some sort of "AHA! moment") when universally every Baltimore resident has said it doesn't matter. So you want to punish them for using their constitutional rights? The reason you don't testify against yourself is that you can accidentally say incriminating things. And I don't mean some bullshit like in A Few Good Men. I mean things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person Well if they grant one immunity they wouldn't have that protection. They would be compelled to testify. Does seem like a convenient time to care about constitutional rights though. Didn't seem to matter much for Freddie? So lets not give anyone a fair trial. I mean, they didn't consider their victims rights, why should we consider theirs? Lets just start hanging people as soon as they're accused. I'm surprised you're following this train of logic. You're the one with a deep-seated distrust of the justice system, and yet you want to restrict protections of the accused. No he wants their employer to hold them to the actual standard of employment. A person that is willingly keeping crimes committed by others a secret is per definition not fit to be police. That sounds like punishing someone for not testifying against himself to me.
Sounds pretty standard if you believe in liberty and the free market.
"Hey Jim what happened to the shipment on Tuesday?"
"I plead the 5th"
"You're fired"
The moment they make their job as a PUBLIC servant private in the court of law, they cease to be a public servant, no?
If you refuse to be held responsible for your actions then you shouldn't be allowed to be a cop. Pretty sure that's why there were riots in the first place.
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