US Politics Mega-thread - Page 1665

On February 24 2015 16:30 oneofthem wrote:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/leaks-netanyahu-misled-iran-nuclear-programme-guardian-iran-nuclear-speech-2012-150218165622065.html

something something little birds from somewhere in virginia. expecting his speech. obama absolutely owned this guy.

On February 24 2015 22:40 hannahbelle wrote:


Don't really care for old Benny any here, but the article itself is misleading. The activities that Iran is engaging in is necessary for creating a nuclear weapon. It is also used for non weapon purposes. The Mossad is saying, according to your article, that Iran is engaging in activity that is laying the ground work for a nuclear weapon. But the Mossad also doesn't believe it is currently making a weapon. I don't see the big hoopla here.

Iran is being smart. They are doing every thing that they can to pursue a weapons program, without actually engaging in any activities are only used in making a weapon. If I was Iran, I would do the same thing. I would ride that fine line all the way to the end of the tracks. That way, when I wanted to flip the switch to a bomb, I would only need 3mos to a year to complete it, which may as well be next day air as far as today's political environment is concerned when it comes to doing anything about Iran.

On February 24 2015 22:53 Acrofales wrote:


And yet, for some reason, I believe the Mossad specialists who say they are NOT doing that, and what the Iranians are doing will set back any potential weapons program, and not you. I wonder why that is.

On February 24 2015 23:35 coverpunch wrote:
I'm personally very curious about how Al Jazeera could get classified Mossad documents. I wonder if the Obama administration leaked them to embarrass Netanyahu and let him know that two can play at that game.

The comments on Al Jazeera are hideous and hilarious.

On February 25 2015 03:03 oneofthem wrote:
little bird in virginia did it.




but yes lets spin an ic conclusion into something different because of this knowledge of fissile processing. psst everyone knows that

The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.

The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.

Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:

• Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
  
• Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
  
• Shackling for prolonged periods.
  
• Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.
  
• Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.

At least one man was found unresponsive in a Homan Square “interview room” and later pronounced dead.

Brian Jacob Church, a protester known as one of the “Nato Three”, was held and questioned at Homan Square in 2012 following a police raid. Officers restrained Church for the better part of a day, denying him access to an attorney, before sending him to a nearby police station to be booked and charged.

On February 25 2015 03:08 hannahbelle wrote:


I agreed with the IC assessment. You are the one that is choosing to selectively ignore a key portion of the article.

Mossad's formal assessment of Iran's nuclear capacity and intentions differs from the scenario outlined by the prime minister at the UN

adding that the department “has zero tolerance for misconduct, and has instituted a series of internal initiatives and reforms, to ensure past incidents of police misconduct are not repeated”. Without providing any specifics, it claimed “the allegations in this instance are not supported by the facts.”)

On February 24 2015 22:40 hannahbelle wrote:


Don't really care for old Benny any here, but the article itself is misleading. The activities that Iran is engaging in is necessary for creating a nuclear weapon. It is also used for non weapon purposes. The Mossad is saying, according to your article, that Iran is engaging in activity that is laying then ground work for a nuclear weapon. But the Mossad also doesn't believe it is currently making a weapon. I don't see the big hoopla here.

Iran is being smart. They are doing every thing that they can to pursue a weapons program, without actually engaging in any activities are only used in making a weapon. If I was Iran, I would do the same thing. I would ride that fine line all the way to the end of the tracks. That way, when I wanted to flip the switch to a bomb, I would only need 3mos to a year to complete it, which may as well be next day air as far as today's political environment is concerned when it comes to doing anything about Iran.

On February 25 2015 06:58 Introvert wrote:
I find it interesting that the Republicans want to fund the enterity of the DHS except for Obama's executive immigration action, and yet it's the Republicans who are being rigid.

So I have to ask, why would Obama threaten to shut down so much of the department over an executive action that was blocked by a court (for now), anyway? Doesn't it seem like Obama is being kind of petty? "Give me 100% or this thing shuts down." So bipartisan!

And again, the Repubs cave. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything significant since 2011 that Obama has compromised on, most of the time it's the GOP giving up in the final hours.

On February 25 2015 08:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:


It's not "caving" or "compromising" if you take an absolutely absurd position in the first place and then come back to something reasonable.