Should the US reduce its global military presence? - Page 2

On September 08 2012 13:37 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Not only can we not maintain this, but we are also losing more than we are gaining at the moment. Now, other nations hate our guts and want us out.

On September 08 2012 13:35 xrapture wrote:
Read any history book. Which nations are glorified?

Britian, Rome, Japan, Egypt. Countries with a strong military presence. We do the dirty work so the other countries can keep their thumbs up their asses.

But, we'll be remembered.

On September 08 2012 13:39 Shady Sands wrote:

...someone please explain why spending blood and treasure to stabilize other nations is a profitable activity for the American taxpayer?

On September 08 2012 13:26 CajunMan wrote:


We like the think its been thousands of years since the last war but it's only been 70-75 years since that country tried to take over the world. I mean now ya it is less important but in retrospect 75 years is nothing.

On September 08 2012 13:39 Shady Sands wrote:

...someone please explain why spending blood and treasure to stabilize other nations is a profitable activity for the American taxpayer?

On September 08 2012 13:25 CursOr wrote:
We have bases in over 100 countries accross the globe, and there are Zero foreign military bases in the US. In fact, the idea of that even sounds absurd... why would we have a foreign military base in our country? Seems perfectly reasonable though that we have tons of them accross the globe- to most Americans.

Even though they don't exactly tell us on TV, these bases cause a lot of pollution and damage to the surrounding environment, and have a long history of practicing with weapons and things that aren't allowed in the US. Vieques, Puerto Rico is a good example of this, along with many of the bases in Central America. The natives do not want us there, but the government allows it for a variety of reasons.

The ammount of money and effort the US, and our species in general, spends preparing for war and killing each other is just laughably bad. Yes, drastically reduce.

On September 08 2012 13:39 Shady Sands wrote:

...someone please explain why spending blood and treasure to stabilize other nations is a profitable activity for the American taxpayer?

On September 08 2012 13:43 TheGreenMachine wrote:
Did you know many of the troops stationed in friendly countries are there to guard embassies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Security_Guard

Not all of it is for violence, most of its just standard guards. A big portion of the air force is security forces and they mostly just guard gates, transports, ect.

On September 08 2012 13:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Like every superpowerful nation in history, we are an Imperialist nation. Europe, much of the Far East, and other lands are under our grip. Other countries can easily be paid off or intimidated, as has been done often. Any country that steps out of line, we destruct and of course justify it with the typical "humanitarian / democracy" garbage. The early 1990s were the golden age, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US pretty much owned the world. We had so much power, we led the UN to enforce the most brutal sanctions ever made, and for 12 years at that, which caused a Holodomor-like disaster in Iraq, except with economic and social collapse on top of that.

Moral of the story is, the US is, proportionally to other states, the most powerful nation in history, and it is not to be fucked with. It's not the way I like it, but it's the way it is. Anyone who thinks we're going to reduce our military presence and consequentially our control and influence in foreign countries is delusional. It's not going to happen, and no country has done it unless it literally was not worth it at all or could not be sustained.

On September 08 2012 13:43 xrapture wrote:


Eh, sometimes you fight for the glory. People have different views on how countries should be run. Do I want to see a world with 0 wars, where everyone has a macbook and an iphone standing in line at Starbucks? Nope. I'm fine with where my tax dollars are going.