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On September 08 2012 13:37 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Not only can we not maintain this, but we are also losing more than we are gaining at the moment. Now, other nations hate our guts and want us out.
Oh really? what nations that we are in that hate us? pretty much been to all of them and i don't see this hatred. Could be just my experience. The only country I been to that is hostile to us mainly college students is Korea. Korea is split 50/50 id take a wild guess and say. Problem is if we pull out Korea's economy will take a dumb so incredibly hard it would compare with our depression. When i was there and I'm not exaggerating this. Soldiers dropped 90% of their pay into the Korean econ every two weeks.
It is a moment of clarity among these boards. This board shows how radical left the community for the most part is.
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On September 09 2012 02:04 Chargelot wrote:
Between this thread and the "should weed be legalized" thread, I'm beginning to think Team Liquid is slowly turning into a giant political circle jerk. We get it, the majority opinion on Team Liquid is left-winged. Do we need 700 threads to say "I'm liberal"?
I laughed.
You seem awfully burdened by the "liberal" threads on this forum, I envision you sitting in a chair, beat red face, screaming directly at your monitor: "LIBERAL POPPYCOCK'S, SOCIALISM AHHH!!"
maybe since the admins aren't shutting every single one down you should just not read the general forum, or go to a CNN/fox news forum where you might feel more at home
good day.
eh
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On September 09 2012 02:08 Mo0Rauder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:04 Chargelot wrote:
Between this thread and the "should weed be legalized" thread, I'm beginning to think Team Liquid is slowly turning into a giant political circle jerk. We get it, the majority opinion on Team Liquid is left-winged. Do we need 700 threads to say "I'm liberal"? I laughed. You seem awfully burdened by the "liberal" threads on this forum, I envision you sitting in a chair, beat red face, screaming directly at your monitor: "LIBERAL POPPYCOCK'S, SOCIALISM AHHH!!" maybe since the admins aren't shutting every single one down you should just not read the general forum, or go to a CNN/fox news forum where you might feel more at home good day. eh
I'm glad you have such a great imagination. I'm a poor college student, figure out which side of the political spectrum I'm on, and re-envision me just not wanting 700 threads to make the same point.
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On September 09 2012 02:05 cekkmt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 01:55 HomeWorld wrote:On September 09 2012 01:45 cekkmt wrote:
From a US economic standpoint, if all these troops were to come home, what would they do? It may be screwed up, but them returning home means the soldiers are out of a job. The US market isn't exactly overflowing with jobs right now. I think you are mistaking pulling troops back with sending to retirement  There's plenty of stuff where previously deployed troops can contribute (major hell yeah for the engineering core) like building roads/bridges/etc effectively doing something good for da nation. I'm not an US citizen btw Normally yes, but although the US economy is slightly recovering, those jobs aren't readily available. Post war recessions occured after WW1 and WW2 due to the influx of new laborors to the markets that were returning home from deployment. Another 100k+ people returning from abroad would not help reduce local unemployment.
So keep paying them like you are, but have them help your country instead of sitting in a base overseas. It will even save you money since you don't have to pay extra for them being abroad, and all able men are able to do constructionwork.
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I guess it doesn't matter how much you owe if you have more guns than the bank. Of course the US should reduce it's global military presence but it really doesn't have a reason to and if it can keep our oil prices down then nothing is going to change.
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On September 09 2012 02:12 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:08 Mo0Rauder wrote:On September 09 2012 02:04 Chargelot wrote:
Between this thread and the "should weed be legalized" thread, I'm beginning to think Team Liquid is slowly turning into a giant political circle jerk. We get it, the majority opinion on Team Liquid is left-winged. Do we need 700 threads to say "I'm liberal"? I laughed. You seem awfully burdened by the "liberal" threads on this forum, I envision you sitting in a chair, beat red face, screaming directly at your monitor: "LIBERAL POPPYCOCK'S, SOCIALISM AHHH!!" maybe since the admins aren't shutting every single one down you should just not read the general forum, or go to a CNN/fox news forum where you might feel more at home good day. eh I'm glad you have such a great imagination. I'm a poor college student, figure out which side of the political spectrum I'm on, and re-envision me just not wanting 700 threads to make the same point.
I'm picturing it now, a bowl a 10 cent bowl of Mr.Noodle beside you, a tear in your eye, and a small desk with a single lamp on it.. scattered torn papers lay strewn across it as you stare with a melancholy look into a dim lit screen. Beside you, a $5 starbucks coffee rests in your hand.
We mis-judge people everyday, I'm sorry sir, or m'am
However, I feel that moaning about liberal forum posts is not your job here. You're over exaggerating the amount of Liberal topics as well, there are just as many right wing nut-bars here as there are left.
Also, I'm done school and it's my day off, so fishing on these forums is fun for me, you just seem agitated. I suggest doing something that will make your day more pleasureable, clearly this is not that for you.
Good day.
Eh
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Yes, because Germany, Japan, Korea, Kuwait, UK, and Italy can suddenly turn evil again and pursue world domination. Seriously Reagan. wtf.
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On September 09 2012 01:49 Dice17 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 13:23 Dfgj wrote:On September 08 2012 13:20 TeuTeu wrote:
A question on politics submitted by a user called Voltaire. How appropriate!
On the issue of the troops overseas, I had no idea that we had so many troops in Japan, Germany and elsewhere. At this point, I'm not really sure of it. Can someone give a reason to have so many troops overseas? (Besides quicker mobilization). Most of these are remnants from prior conflicts. They do provide some amount of stabilizing force for some areas that are quite important politically/economically to the U.S., and that's probably why they're still there. I dont think previous wars has anything to do with it. Both of those countries or not like they use to be when we were at war with them. Also the soldiers in Korea and Japan could be linked to the tension between North Korea and South Korea. As for the troops in Germany I really dont understand that
Probably as a staging point vs Russia.
On September 09 2012 02:23 Brutaxilos wrote:
Yes, because Germany, Japan, Korea, Kuwait, UK, and Italy can suddenly turn evil again and pursue world domination. Seriously Reagan. wtf.
Japan wants us there. So does Korea. Kuwait is an awesome staging point for the Middle East. UK I have no idea, maybe they want us there? I haven't looked into it. Otherwise I don't really have any explanation. Italy is for Africa.
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No,The balkan wars showed the inablity of Europe to handle their own affairs, which nation was the first to intervene? the US, despit the Balkans being the backyard of Germany and Italy.
And it goes on, in the end the troops do more good then harm. there is very little resistence to a US pressence. even the Japanese resistence is really small overall.
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On September 08 2012 13:33 Voltaire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 13:14 stevarius wrote:
As much as we would like to reduce our military presence around the world, it's necessary for the stability of certain regions and for our current global operations from a logistical standpoint. This is a lie perpetuated by those who stand to gain from the military-industrial complex. None of the countries on that list have any problems with stability, not even Kuwait. If anything, these foreign occupations cause instability rather than mitigate it. The motivation behind 9/11 and similar terrorist attacks came from the fact that we were in their countries. Al Qaeda was first formed because Bin Laden was horrified that the Saudi government allowed the US military to be deployed in their country.
At least we all now know why you created this thread: so that you can provide yourself a podium from which to spew your anti-military views (and at the same time call out the liars who make it happen, yay!).
The world is a much more complicated place than you obviously think it is - there are always going to be lots of people around the world who hate us, no matter what we do, no matter how much we try to help them, no matter how many of our troops we withdraw. The #1 priority of the US government, even higher than a balanced budget (of course), is the security of the American people. This is something that we don't fuck around with - we take the lives of our citizens very seriously. We have that many troops out for a reason - the world is a very dangerous place. And I sleep much better at night knowing that we have every base covered (no pun intended, lol), every i is dotted, etc. We are ready for ANYTHING. Have a good day, and God bless America.
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On September 09 2012 02:26 Bahamut1337 wrote:
No,The balkan wars showed the inablity of Europe to handle their own affairs, which nation was the first to intervene? the US, despit the Balkans being the backyard of Germany and Italy.
And it goes on, in the end the troops do more good then harm. there is very little resistence to a US pressence. even the Japanese resistence is really small overall.
What Europe? Europe is - contrary to popular belief - not a country. It's a landmass with 48 sovereign states. I know it's a shocker and confusing at first, but it's actually true.
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We've maintained this for many many years. While we should perhaps decrease our presence in certain places slightly, it wouldn't make sense for everybody's sake, to decrease our troops drastically.
Sometimes I wonder why people even ask polls like this on forums with this demographic. No offense, but we all know what the answer will be before it's even polled.
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A poll thread with a not especially informative op, that is not actually holding any real discussion. Its the responsibility of the op to lay the ground for good discussion, especially in topics like this, by including sources and lots of genuine and relevant information. Right now this thread contains a lot of "my country is better than yours!!1!" and not very much sourced and informative discussion, so I'm closing it.
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