EPTMOST POLLS AND ODDS HAVE THE COLTS WINNING THE SUPERBOWL... definately not the seahawks.... Well any decent poll that doesn't take into account the half back.. alexander can't take you to the championship and win it for ya
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Chris.K
United States147 Posts
MOST POLLS AND ODDS HAVE THE COLTS WINNING THE SUPERBOWL... definately not the seahawks.... Well any decent poll that doesn't take into account the half back.. alexander can't take you to the championship and win it for ya he needs help. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
You can go a head and try and say Vegas doesnt know jack shit about numbers and odds but you will be, well horribly wrong. | ||
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iNcontroL
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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On January 11 2006 18:35 -_- wrote: I don't know much about football, but frankly, I think I know ten times as much as you. "Anyone who watches grossman..." Huh? He's thrown the ball 39 times ALL SEASON. How the fuck do you know that he has "a quick release... pretty decent field vision... makes better reads on the defense than some quarterbacks, definitely so against most rookies and has good pocket presence." Unless you're a profesional football analyst SHUT THE FUCK UP. He played more than that one game this season. He's been on the team for three years, you just haven't seen him. Being from Illinois (upper), I get to see him every time he plays. I can tell you that he can see what's going on on the field from the Falcons game. Why is that? The 12 yard pass to Justin Gage when the Falcons brought the house shows this. The fact that he was over 50% completion tells me this. It makes sense. It's pretty easy to see that a guy has a quick release. He either holds on to it for too long and throws a lot of balls badly, or he gets rid of it on time and completes them/does not get sacked all the time. Not really that hard to figure out. He makes better reads than the guy who was before him, it's a fact. He has good pocket presence because he knows when to move away from the oncoming traffic, and when to get rid of it. It's an innate thing. You either have it, or you don't. Again, it's not that hard to see. You don't have to be a professional analyst to not be retarded. (EDIT: Keep in mind that I am from Illinois, so when I talk, I talk like most Bear fans and talk in unsaid comparison to Orton) On January 11 2006 20:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote: and ur latest post was just factually wrong. Maybe "most polls" i guess you have some kind of poll counter compiled before you. Im going off what vegas said, considered the mecca for gambling and is really nothing to argue against.. the safest bet as of now in Vegas is seattle. And no they didnt just pull it out of their ass, they might have considered all the numbers kid. But do they take into account strength of schedule? I have no idea, it's an honest question. The Seahawks had an easy schedule. NEW EDIT: Let's take a look at -_-'s original argument, shall we? Grossman has had a "long time to mature and not suck." He's actually only played six games, not really that much time, now is it? However, you can see signs of promise in him if you actually watch him play, and many EXPERTS will agree with that. Average rushing offense? Last I checked, a top ten rushing attack was not "average," to say the least. In fact, it's pretty damn good. Thomas Jones had 1300 yards this season, which isn't too bad for a back. Not the best in the league, but above average for sure. Then they have Adrian Peterson, and now Cedric Benson to bang it a bit for rest for Jones amongst other things. Their D is the best there's been since the Ravens' D of 2000. There's no question about that. Before the Ravens there was the '85 Bears who were so great. There haven't been a whole lot of "better defenses" than the Bears defense this year. Their D allowed 12.6 points per game. Do you realize how highly that ranks on the all time list? Pretty damn high. To say "better defenses" is assinine. The key to the game is stopping Foster. If they can stop him, which I believe they will, and they can get an early lead, however it may be done, then they can drop an extra guy back to double Smith. Because if you're down in a game, running just is not going to help, unless it's only a few points. | ||
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Chris.K
United States147 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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On January 11 2006 22:00 Chris.K wrote: The polls DO NOT take into account the strength of the schedules which I fully did the seahawks had a much easier time than lets say... denver or san diego or oakland or kansas... i'm naming these 4 teams because this is the hardest division in the league and those teams sparred against each other quite a few times. At the same time, most of the league didn't have to deal with that kind of schedule (of the Broncos, Chargers [especially them], or Chiefs). | ||
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iNcontroL
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Ive continually said, this is the seahawks hardest game until superbowl. IF we win this game we are a guranteed superbowl team i promise it. Not winning a playoff game in 20 years = a mental hill we have to climb no matter how good we are. That and the Skins are the hottest teamin the NFL winning 6 must win games in a row. I am absolutely ecstatic about this game, its gonna fucking rock. But you seriously can count on me verbally reaming you when the seahawks win. And they will. | ||
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Future_sc
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KOFgokuon
United States14904 Posts
On January 11 2006 23:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Strength of schedule doesnt mean shit in the playoffs. Hardest or easiest its a 1 game live or die baby. So when i say the seahawks have the best odds they are taking into account MANY aspects, while you are taking into account strength of schedule? That doesnt matter. Thats the past. Ive continually said, this is the seahawks hardest game until superbowl. IF we win this game we are a guranteed superbowl team i promise it. Not winning a playoff game in 20 years = a mental hill we have to climb no matter how good we are. That and the Skins are the hottest teamin the NFL winning 6 must win games in a row. I am absolutely ecstatic about this game, its gonna fucking rock. But you seriously can count on me verbally reaming you when the seahawks win. And they will. They may be the hottest team in football, but the skins are gonna run out of gas. They've been on full drive mode for the past 6 weeks, you can't maintain that kind of pace. It wouldn't shock me at all if the red skins are just tired, and just don't put up a good performance against the sea hawks. However if the redskins do win, prepare to have your team shit talked on for the next, oh, year or so. again. let the team with less excuses win! | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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On January 11 2006 23:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Strength of schedule doesnt mean shit in the playoffs. Hardest or easiest its a 1 game live or die baby. So when i say the seahawks have the best odds they are taking into account MANY aspects, while you are taking into account strength of schedule? That doesnt matter. Thats the past. Ive continually said, this is the seahawks hardest game until superbowl. IF we win this game we are a guranteed superbowl team i promise it. Not winning a playoff game in 20 years = a mental hill we have to climb no matter how good we are. That and the Skins are the hottest teamin the NFL winning 6 must win games in a row. I am absolutely ecstatic about this game, its gonna fucking rock. But you seriously can count on me verbally reaming you when the seahawks win. And they will. I don't see why anyone would say the Seahawks don't have a legitimate shot at making the Superbowl. Winning and making are two different things, as I think the NFC is just a race to lose this year. | ||
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Chris.K
United States147 Posts
but yes race to lose is a very good and true fact  | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
We GAVE you the ball 3 times and you couldnt score more than 10 pts. We lost the MVP after 5 rushes and STILL scored 20 on your defense. Eat cock i told you the hawks would win. | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
On January 14 2006 16:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Hey Chris, FUCK YOU We GAVE you the ball 3 times and you couldnt score more than 10 pts. We lost the MVP after 5 rushes and STILL scored 20 on your defense. Eat cock i told you the hawks would win. I hope by eight tommorow I will be saying the same thing to lemon-_- | ||
mensrea
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=35634 EDIT: Topic re-opened by request. | ||
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Chris.K
United States147 Posts
On January 14 2006 17:17 -_- wrote: I hope by eight tommorow I will be saying the same thing to lemon-_- good job your team won.... but hey my team just beat the defending world champs... so yeah its not like the NFC has a shot at winning the superbowl... so you can just go celebrate your pathetic 10 points over a pathetic NFC team I don't like the skins either I just like them better than the hawks...... any news on how bad alexander was hurt?? | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Btw your doing the classical "thats fine im happier this way anyways! nahahaha" I told you if you take that stance, once ur wrong im going to gloat like an obese pregnant woman and here i am being a bigger man. I will settle with my previous completely immature post and simply wait until the superbowl to yet again gloat at how the two conferences arent so fart apart like you seem to believe. | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
Thomas Jones and Adrian Peterson officially sucked cock. What did they have 70-80 combined yards? Rex Grossman ruled, though, right? OH WAIT. Did he even break the 200 yard mark? Down the stretch how did this games played rookie fare? He fucked up with a crucial interception. Hmmm, weren't you talking about how jake delhomme couldn't throw, and that if they took deshaun out of the game they were screwed, we'd be 'playing right into their hand'... well foster was out in the third quarter with a high ankle sprain AND DELHOMME FUCKED YOU UP. You should really be a analyst!!! You say the bears had one of 'greatest D's of all time' AHAHHAHAHA. Great to the tune of twenty fucking nine points given up. OOOOOOHHHHH. Looks like the gosu football guru didn't know that Delhomme had a 100+ QB rating in the playoffs... playing into their hands my ass. GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
denver is a better team and if the steelers beat denver that means teh steelers have what it takes to beat them | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14904 Posts
On January 15 2006 17:30 -_- wrote: Hey sweetlemon... Thomas Jones and Adrian Peterson officially sucked cock. What did they have 70-80 combined yards? Rex Grossman ruled, though, right? OH WAIT. Did he even break the 200 yard mark? Down the stretch how did this games played rookie fare? He fucked up with a crucial interception. Hmmm, weren't you talking about how jake delhomme couldn't throw, and that if they took deshaun out of the game they were screwed, we'd be 'playing right into their hand'... well foster was out in the third quarter with a high ankle sprain AND DELHOMME FUCKED YOU UP. You should really be a analyst!!! You say the bears had one of 'greatest D's of all time' AHAHHAHAHA. Great to the tune of twenty fucking nine points given up. OOOOOOHHHHH. Looks like the gosu football guru didn't know that Delhomme had a 100+ QB rating in the playoffs... playing into their hands my ass. GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Now imagine if Orton had been playing instead i can see line of...say...10-33, 0 td's, 3 picks haha I will admit, Rex Grossman had flashes that he'll be a good quarterback in the future. He drove down the field pretty well hooking up with berrian for a few good passes, plus he definitely has the arm strength. He got flustered and confused, but let's be honest here, in your second start of the year, playing against the panther's defense isn't exactly cake. Berrian is fast as hell, and he has pretty good hands all things considered. The bears are young still. With more time on his hands, I can see grossman becoming at least a mid level, maybe a high level starter. more time with his receivers, the bears should be perennial playoff contenders for the next few years. | ||
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Chris.K
United States147 Posts
On January 14 2006 22:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Any news on how wrong you were? The AFC isnt so fart ahead of the NFC im pretty sure your in for yet another piss poor prediction. Alexander is a pussy he had his bell rung and had to sit it out, he will be back for the championship and hopefully he will decide to tough it up for an entire playoff game. Btw your doing the classical "thats fine im happier this way anyways! nahahaha" I told you if you take that stance, once ur wrong im going to gloat like an obese pregnant woman and here i am being a bigger man. I will settle with my previous completely immature post and simply wait until the superbowl to yet again gloat at how the two conferences arent so fart apart like you seem to believe. time will tell Denver > Steelers Panthers > Hawks.... oh and this turnout did favor the broncos much much more so I am happier with this turnout.... I mean common... I did want a rematch between indy and the broncos but they were the only team I was worried about... they are gone ~ ... steelers will fuck up again...oh and when its done... I hope you'll become a denver fan like I have been pretty much ever since i began watching football... They conquered the hardest division in the entire league... and yes second best in that league... did ruin the colts perfect streak... I do believe the colts won't have this invincible aura anymore.... and thats good because they are overrated.... but its time everyone time for the broncos to return to glory all those doubters.... on the defensive line of the browns... seems like quite a good plan now doesn't it... we traded droughns... wow? denver can take probably the worst runner in the league right now and make him great... its all in the system... Rueben and clinton portis where are they at now... portis gave us bailey.... AWESOME TRADE rueben gave us the best defensive line rotation in the league... hrrmmm Wonder who they'll trade bell or dayne for.... lord knows we'll keep anderson until hes done ^^ that guy is flippin sweetoh well off to play dota ciao | ||
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