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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24125 Posts
May 20 2012 10:25 GMT
#1
Funny, Ignorant, or Bigoted?

Without going to intensive detail, I noticed, and it seemed others noticed that the casters of the restream of SPL Opening day have been making references to "lynching" and mentioned how they couldn't distinguish who a player was because "they are all Korean" and several other racial slights, slurs, and blatent disrespect.

Rather than try to go Professor X and trying to speculate on how people could be so ignorant or disrespectful I decided someone needed to say something and when I mentioned it in chat I got temp banned so I came here.

I understand we all have off nights and they are 12+ hours into casting but seriously we as a community can't allow people to feel comfortable using language like was being used during this cast.

If I am just being overly sensative I'd be willing to hear how what they have been saying is ok...

I understand when people grow up in a homogenous suburban semi-private school where there are little to no minorities and/or none of them are friends, they might think language like what was used during this Sayle/Pokebunny cast was ok.

Just so it is said when you are attempting to appeal to people who don't know you, language like that in my opinion is simply unacceptable. People don't know you, so they don't know if the racial epithets you toss about are jokes, serious, or a result of intense ignorance

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jell
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal86 Posts
May 20 2012 10:28 GMT
#2
You must be one of those people that go around mailing sponsors for everything that happens. If you don't like what they're saying don't watch.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
May 20 2012 10:30 GMT
#3
"They're just words. They dont control us."

-Dane Cook, philosopher
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
May 20 2012 10:30 GMT
#4
On May 20 2012 19:25 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just so it is said when you are attempting to appeal to people who don't know you, language like that in my opinion is simply unacceptable. People don't know you, so they don't know if the racial epithets you toss about are jokes, serious, or a result of intense ignorance

Better grab earplugs and an umbrella before you head out.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
May 20 2012 10:31 GMT
#5
Korean commentators call every good looking white guy at BW broadcasts Tom Cruise, too.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 10:34:16
May 20 2012 10:31 GMT
#6
On May 20 2012 19:28 Jell wrote:
You must be one of those people that go around mailing sponsors for everything that happens. If you don't like what they're saying don't watch.



No I brought the issue to the community where they can watch the VODS later and decide for themselves if they weren't watching live.

If they wanted to apologize and/or explain why they say stuff like that I would accept their apology or explanation.

If the SC2/BW communtiy is cool with bigoted and racially charged sterotypes and comments because "words dont control us" or whatever the perspective is thats their perspective.

As for "earplugs..." I am not against their RIGHT to say it. I just think it is shamefull and should be shamed.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ljd1131
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Australia83 Posts
May 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#7
Is this a joke?
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 20 2012 10:34 GMT
#8
This is the greatest troll post of all time - GOD I LOVE IT - its like hotbids bad twin hahahahahahaha
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sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
May 20 2012 10:35 GMT
#9
there is nothing racist about not distinguishing koreans.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24125 Posts
May 20 2012 10:35 GMT
#10
For what it's worth after about 20 people said somthing in chat they have significantly slowed down on the racial insensitivites
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
May 20 2012 10:37 GMT
#11
You should look up the definition of Controversy
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
May 20 2012 10:38 GMT
#12
BW community racist? We exclusively only watch Koreans lol...
koecim
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
May 20 2012 10:39 GMT
#13
Good joke thread.

A smart poke at oversensitivity in the SC2 community and our desire to "lynch" public figures.
TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
May 20 2012 10:40 GMT
#14
There are 7 streams to chose from in the sidebar. If you're offended by how Sayle or Pokebunny act on their own personal stream, then by all means pick any of the other 5 available.
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
May 20 2012 10:40 GMT
#15
On May 20 2012 19:28 Jell wrote:
You must be one of those people that go around mailing sponsors for everything that happens. If you don't like what they're saying don't watch.

ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
May 20 2012 10:41 GMT
#16
Jesus christ. I've had enough of these over sensitive people who feel offended by anything.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
May 20 2012 10:45 GMT
#17
--- Nuked ---
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
May 20 2012 10:45 GMT
#18
Some of the stuff they said made me cringe a little but they aren't professional casters. Quite simply, I'm not too broken up about it, nothing I heard them say made me want to straight up stop watching their stream.

The down syndrome shit earlier and some earlier jokes were unfunny regardless of whether or not they were offensive. Once again, they aren't professional casters.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 20 2012 10:46 GMT
#19
God, some people are easily offended...
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 10:52:21
May 20 2012 10:50 GMT
#20
i walked away during the cast a few times, so I didnt actually hear anything bad. So I'm going to assume that there was a slight slip up here and there while I was afk. Do keep in mind that this is not a professional cast. If you do have an issue with them, PM them.

edit:

On May 20 2012 19:45 Mordiford wrote:
The down syndrome shit earlier and some earlier jokes were unfunny regardless of whether or not they were offensive. Once again, they aren't professional casters.

I do remember that actually.

To say there's a controversy going on is a huge overstatement though.
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