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VictorJones
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States235 Posts
April 26 2012 01:27 GMT
#201
So many mixed emotions. No words to express them lol
sGs.Stregon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:33:07
April 26 2012 01:29 GMT
#202
On April 26 2012 10:21 Mutality wrote:
I feel like terran is already the most discovered race, I feel like if Flash played Zerg or Protoss he could revolutionize the game.


Yea, most discovered.. That is why Pro Terrans are still going MMM timing/all in every match..

Protoss and Zerg are both way more discovered than Terran, to be honest, Terran kept reciving nerfs for awhile, so the majority of players ((pros included)) stuck with cheesy gimmicky stuff.. Someone like Flash will revolutionize Terran. Ive seen Mech work against Protoss and Zerg, ive seen biomech destroy Protoss((without drops, and with)) ive seen hellion viking rape zerg.. yet 99% of the games are MMM all in((with a healthy dose of 1-1-1)).. Terran needs players that will push the race, and not just settle going all-in//gimmicky..
Sc:Bw4Life ; 14+ years, aint gunna stop
mlspmatt
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada404 Posts
April 26 2012 01:32 GMT
#203
On April 26 2012 07:05 gCgCrypto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:03 s.Q.uelched wrote:
Cool... Now if only SC2 is as fun to watch as BW...


Honestly i feel like ZvT is getting close. there are games that can easily compare to SC:BW top games, the only thing is that they are more rare then in BW and thus are even more of a event!


I agree TvZ is pretty good MU. The other two, not so much.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44185 Posts
April 26 2012 01:32 GMT
#204
On April 26 2012 06:53 Dodgin wrote:
It would have been really sad to see Flash retire because he didn't enjoy sc2 or be forced to play and not enjoy it to keep his job, good news.


I agree with this.

If Flash wants to switch, I support his decision.

Also, SKT Fighting
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LEGAsee
Profile Joined January 2010
170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:33:51
April 26 2012 01:33 GMT
#205
On April 26 2012 10:19 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:15 LEGAsee wrote:
Right? lol I love when people proclaim to have been a big fan as if it makes their claim that we should embrace SC2 more legitimate..especially when they show their ignorance and make it blatantly obvious they are lying in the same post.


There's a silent majority of BW fans who like SC2, the other thread had a poll to prove it. It's just a few vocal people who shout down SC2 in every thread.


When I say "we" I mean spectators of the kespa run league and people reading this forum, I'm not speaking for Broodwar fans if that is what you mean. But since you brought it up, I don't know of anyone who followed Broodwar first that prefers SC2 and I bet they are actually the minority.
Brood War has been a part of our lives for the last 12 years. No, we don't want change.
sGs.Stregon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 02:03:55
April 26 2012 01:35 GMT
#206
On April 26 2012 10:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:53 Dodgin wrote:
It would have been really sad to see Flash retire because he didn't enjoy sc2 or be forced to play and not enjoy it to keep his job, good news.


I agree with this.

If Flash wants to switch, I support his decision.

Also, SKT Fighting

Samsung KHAN represent. Only because (T)TurN. That kid makes me smile.

For all you Sc2 fanboys out there that didnt follow this past Proleague, i would urge you to go find (T)TurN v (P)Stats on sniper ridge =)..

If you dont understand.. The build is called Deep6, one of the oldest builds and it is as rare as a blue moon, but stupied fun every time, because going bio in TvP is near suicide in this day and age
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:40:53
April 26 2012 01:40 GMT
#207
The opinions of the korean fanbase matter a little more than a few disappointed individuals on TL.net. I would actually be interested to read an analysis of korean spectator/fan response to this shift from BW to SC2, on both sides.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
April 26 2012 01:42 GMT
#208
On April 26 2012 10:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:53 Dodgin wrote:
It would have been really sad to see Flash retire because he didn't enjoy sc2 or be forced to play and not enjoy it to keep his job, good news.


I agree with this.

If Flash wants to switch, I support his decision.

Also, SKT Fighting


if SKT switches and has a match against Slayers, where does boxer sit?
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
[AthruN]
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia25 Posts
April 26 2012 01:43 GMT
#209
On April 26 2012 10:29 sGs.Stregon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:21 Mutality wrote:
I feel like terran is already the most discovered race, I feel like if Flash played Zerg or Protoss he could revolutionize the game.


Yea, most discovered.. That is why Pro Terrans are still going MMM timing/all in every match..

Protoss and Zerg are both way more discovered than Terran, to be honest, Terran kept reciving nerfs for awhile, so the majority of players ((pros included)) stuck with cheesy gimmicky stuff.. Someone like Flash will revolutionize Terran. Ive seen Mech work against Protoss and Zerg, ive seen biomech destroy Protoss((without drops, and with)) ive seen hellion viking rape zerg.. yet 99% of the games are MMM all in((with a healthy dose of 1-1-1)).. Terran needs players that will push the race, and not just settle going all-in//gimmicky..

You have no absolutely no idea what your talking about could you please try and explain whatever the hell you are talking you know if terran went mmm all in or 1/1/1 in all three match ups you think maybe.... some of the pro players would recognize that and counter the 1 or 2 builds terran must do...........
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
April 26 2012 01:57 GMT
#210
On April 26 2012 10:19 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:15 LEGAsee wrote:
Right? lol I love when people proclaim to have been a big fan as if it makes their claim that we should embrace SC2 more legitimate..especially when they show their ignorance and make it blatantly obvious they are lying in the same post.


There's a silent majority of BW fans who like SC2, the other thread had a poll to prove it. It's just a few vocal people who shout down SC2 in every thread.


well i am not going to talk about majority or minority but when someone posts ridiculously uninformed claims and says that he is a bw fan while clapping his hands and celebrating an even that is hurting bw a lot, i feel safe to say that the person is not a big bw fan.
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 02:03:03
April 26 2012 01:58 GMT
#211
All of the races are unexplored. Literally sc2 has been out for less than 2 years, and balance changes are still happening... Like anyone who says that people have actually "fully explored" anything at this point in the game's infancy is kind of dumb.

The thing about BW pros coming over that's so interesting to me is how much BW style they are going to bring to Sc2. Will Flash/Mind/Baby/Terrans in general sacrifice some results in the short run to explore mech in the long run (especially vs protoss where it seems the most difficult). Like if they want to win tournaments fast, then they'll just adopt the current style (bio in all matchups 98% of the time), and get really good at it because of their mechanics.

I kind of want them to bring their own style to the game, I think it would be really cool spectating a bunch of players who literally play the game completely differently when compared to the current crop. But that's realistically not going to happen to the extent that I hope it will, because they are professionals at heart and they want to produce results/make bank....

tldr; BW pros, practice mech! Make it good with your mad skills.


On April 26 2012 10:57 HeaDStrong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:19 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:15 LEGAsee wrote:
Right? lol I love when people proclaim to have been a big fan as if it makes their claim that we should embrace SC2 more legitimate..especially when they show their ignorance and make it blatantly obvious they are lying in the same post.


There's a silent majority of BW fans who like SC2, the other thread had a poll to prove it. It's just a few vocal people who shout down SC2 in every thread.


well i am not going to talk about majority or minority but when someone posts ridiculously uninformed claims and says that he is a bw fan while clapping his hands and celebrating an even that is hurting bw a lot, i feel safe to say that the person is not a big bw fan.



It's kind of dumb to say that all bw fans are completely against the switch. I've been watching bw since 2004, grew up playing/watching it, and I want to see eSports continue in any form that it can. If Kespa thinks sc2 is the future, and is going to switch over all its players, then I'm going to support that decision because it allows me to watch my favourite players as long as I can!

Yeah, I think bw is the better game, and nothing would make my day more than seeing a huge sponsor commit to BW and guarantee a bunch more seasons of spl/msl/osl, but any form of esports is obviously better than no esports at all. I think a lot of people are being a bit hypocritical when they say "I want eSports but it MUST be only X game, not Y game." Having a preference is fine (ie. I don't enjoy watching/playing LoL at all), but this extremism with "BW OR NOTHING" is a bit too much.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
Capook
Profile Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
April 26 2012 02:01 GMT
#212
On April 26 2012 10:03 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 09:47 Ansinjunger wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:41 L3gendary wrote:
So...what does this article have to do with bw?



If Fruitdealer switched to League of Legends, it would be SC2 news. There's a lot of "Bah! Humbug" @SC2 in this thread.


I can't imagine why that could be.


Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 09:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:49 Capook wrote:
I have never heard of this Fantasy or Reality. I seem to remember K-dong (thanks for confirming the existence of this player) and maybe also some cute-looking protoss TangBee who didn't have wrist problems at the time.

Anyway K-dong seemed pretty good. Is he playing sc2 too?


To think that BW pros are switching into this fanbase....*sigh*


He's not being serious, FYI.


Of course I am being serious--I thought k-dong was pretty good. Also to those that say sc2 fans are ignorant, you should know that I have watched many sc1 games and know a lot about the game. For example, I have seen minedrags, where you mine lots of minerals and go dragoons. I know TangBee has employed this tactic to great success. Also I heard about this guy BeeSuit (what is it with all the bee names in sc1? you should name yourselves after commercial sweetened tea drinks) who can make dark templars even when zerg has lair and so can go overseer. He uses phoenix to chase away the overseers and sometimes kill them while they morph.




User was temp banned for this post.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 26 2012 02:01 GMT
#213
Sigh. I hate visiting BW forums nowadays. At least I'm glad that Flash is faring well with the transition. If it's unavoidable, might as well enjoy the process.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 02:03:44
April 26 2012 02:03 GMT
#214
On April 26 2012 10:57 HeaDStrong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:19 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:15 LEGAsee wrote:
Right? lol I love when people proclaim to have been a big fan as if it makes their claim that we should embrace SC2 more legitimate..especially when they show their ignorance and make it blatantly obvious they are lying in the same post.


There's a silent majority of BW fans who like SC2, the other thread had a poll to prove it. It's just a few vocal people who shout down SC2 in every thread.


well i am not going to talk about majority or minority but when someone posts ridiculously uninformed claims and says that he is a bw fan while clapping his hands and celebrating an even that is hurting bw a lot, i feel safe to say that the person is not a big bw fan.


Then you are ignorant, because people can be fans of more than one game.


On April 26 2012 10:58 HyperionDreamer wrote:

It's kind of dumb to say that all bw fans are completely against the switch. I've been watching bw since 2004, grew up playing/watching it, and I want to see eSports continue in any form that it can. If Kespa thinks sc2 is the future, and is going to switch over all its players, then I'm going to support that decision because it allows me to watch my favourite players as long as I can!

Yeah, I think bw is the better game, and nothing would make my day more than seeing a huge sponsor commit to BW and guarantee a bunch more seasons of spl/msl/osl, but any form of esports is obviously better than no esports at all. I think a lot of people are being a bit hypocritical when they say "I want eSports but it MUST be only X game, not Y game." Having a preference is fine (ie. I don't enjoy watching/playing LoL at all), but this extremism with "BW OR NOTHING" is a bit too much.



This sums up what I want to say more nicely.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44185 Posts
April 26 2012 02:06 GMT
#215
On April 26 2012 10:42 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 26 2012 06:53 Dodgin wrote:
It would have been really sad to see Flash retire because he didn't enjoy sc2 or be forced to play and not enjoy it to keep his job, good news.


I agree with this.

If Flash wants to switch, I support his decision.

Also, SKT Fighting


if SKT switches and has a match against Slayers, where does boxer sit?


I want to see (T)iloveoov vs. (T)MMA.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
sGs.Stregon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States161 Posts
April 26 2012 02:09 GMT
#216
On April 26 2012 10:43 [AthruN] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:29 sGs.Stregon wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:21 Mutality wrote:
I feel like terran is already the most discovered race, I feel like if Flash played Zerg or Protoss he could revolutionize the game.


Yea, most discovered.. That is why Pro Terrans are still going MMM timing/all in every match..

Protoss and Zerg are both way more discovered than Terran, to be honest, Terran kept reciving nerfs for awhile, so the majority of players ((pros included)) stuck with cheesy gimmicky stuff.. Someone like Flash will revolutionize Terran. Ive seen Mech work against Protoss and Zerg, ive seen biomech destroy Protoss((without drops, and with)) ive seen hellion viking rape zerg.. yet 99% of the games are MMM all in((with a healthy dose of 1-1-1)).. Terran needs players that will push the race, and not just settle going all-in//gimmicky..

You have no absolutely no idea what your talking about could you please try and explain whatever the hell you are talking you know if terran went mmm all in or 1/1/1 in all three match ups you think maybe.... some of the pro players would recognize that and counter the 1 or 2 builds terran must do...........


Do i have to goto youtube.com and copy paste links to all the recent pro games where Terran goes MMM//all-in and scour them all untill i find a FEW that Terran didnt do one of these builds? Because I assure you, it is 10x easyer to find a Video of MMM or an all-in, that it is to find a video of something different..

When is the last time you saw a Terran actually use Siege tanks against Protoss, isntead of just MMMV ((because i have seen a GM player sprinkle some Siege tanks in his unit comp in TvP and have very good success.))
Sc:Bw4Life ; 14+ years, aint gunna stop
sGs.Stregon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States161 Posts
April 26 2012 02:11 GMT
#217
On April 26 2012 11:01 Capook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:03 Rostam wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:47 Ansinjunger wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:41 L3gendary wrote:
So...what does this article have to do with bw?



If Fruitdealer switched to League of Legends, it would be SC2 news. There's a lot of "Bah! Humbug" @SC2 in this thread.


I can't imagine why that could be.


On April 26 2012 09:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:49 Capook wrote:
I have never heard of this Fantasy or Reality. I seem to remember K-dong (thanks for confirming the existence of this player) and maybe also some cute-looking protoss TangBee who didn't have wrist problems at the time.

Anyway K-dong seemed pretty good. Is he playing sc2 too?


To think that BW pros are switching into this fanbase....*sigh*


He's not being serious, FYI.


Of course I am being serious--I thought k-dong was pretty good. Also to those that say sc2 fans are ignorant, you should know that I have watched many sc1 games and know a lot about the game. For example, I have seen minedrags, where you mine lots of minerals and go dragoons. I know TangBee has employed this tactic to great success. Also I heard about this guy BeeSuit (what is it with all the bee names in sc1? you should name yourselves after commercial sweetened tea drinks) who can make dark templars even when zerg has lair and so can go overseer. He uses phoenix to chase away the overseers and sometimes kill them while they morph.



Note that I do not speak for the BW community.. But I, personally, want to take you out back behind he wood shed and bash your brains in for the stupied that just came out of you.
Sc:Bw4Life ; 14+ years, aint gunna stop
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 26 2012 02:14 GMT
#218
On April 26 2012 11:11 sGs.Stregon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:01 Capook wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:03 Rostam wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:47 Ansinjunger wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:41 L3gendary wrote:
So...what does this article have to do with bw?



If Fruitdealer switched to League of Legends, it would be SC2 news. There's a lot of "Bah! Humbug" @SC2 in this thread.


I can't imagine why that could be.


On April 26 2012 09:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:49 Capook wrote:
I have never heard of this Fantasy or Reality. I seem to remember K-dong (thanks for confirming the existence of this player) and maybe also some cute-looking protoss TangBee who didn't have wrist problems at the time.

Anyway K-dong seemed pretty good. Is he playing sc2 too?


To think that BW pros are switching into this fanbase....*sigh*


He's not being serious, FYI.


Of course I am being serious--I thought k-dong was pretty good. Also to those that say sc2 fans are ignorant, you should know that I have watched many sc1 games and know a lot about the game. For example, I have seen minedrags, where you mine lots of minerals and go dragoons. I know TangBee has employed this tactic to great success. Also I heard about this guy BeeSuit (what is it with all the bee names in sc1? you should name yourselves after commercial sweetened tea drinks) who can make dark templars even when zerg has lair and so can go overseer. He uses phoenix to chase away the overseers and sometimes kill them while they morph.



Note that I do not speak for the BW community.. But I, personally, want to take you out back behind he wood shed and bash your brains in for the stupied that just came out of you.


How can you not see that he's joking -_-
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
April 26 2012 02:15 GMT
#219
On April 26 2012 11:11 sGs.Stregon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2012 11:01 Capook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:03 Rostam wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:47 Ansinjunger wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:41 L3gendary wrote:
So...what does this article have to do with bw?



If Fruitdealer switched to League of Legends, it would be SC2 news. There's a lot of "Bah! Humbug" @SC2 in this thread.


I can't imagine why that could be.


On April 26 2012 09:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On April 26 2012 09:49 Capook wrote:
I have never heard of this Fantasy or Reality. I seem to remember K-dong (thanks for confirming the existence of this player) and maybe also some cute-looking protoss TangBee who didn't have wrist problems at the time.

Anyway K-dong seemed pretty good. Is he playing sc2 too?


To think that BW pros are switching into this fanbase....*sigh*


He's not being serious, FYI.


Of course I am being serious--I thought k-dong was pretty good. Also to those that say sc2 fans are ignorant, you should know that I have watched many sc1 games and know a lot about the game. For example, I have seen minedrags, where you mine lots of minerals and go dragoons. I know TangBee has employed this tactic to great success. Also I heard about this guy BeeSuit (what is it with all the bee names in sc1? you should name yourselves after commercial sweetened tea drinks) who can make dark templars even when zerg has lair and so can go overseer. He uses phoenix to chase away the overseers and sometimes kill them while they morph.



Note that I do not speak for the BW community.. But I, personally, want to take you out back behind he wood shed and bash your brains in for the stupied that just came out of you.

This is like the most obvious troll of all time. You're getting baited ridiculously hard atm, just chill out lmao.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
April 26 2012 02:17 GMT
#220
On April 26 2012 11:03 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:57 HeaDStrong wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:19 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:15 LEGAsee wrote:
Right? lol I love when people proclaim to have been a big fan as if it makes their claim that we should embrace SC2 more legitimate..especially when they show their ignorance and make it blatantly obvious they are lying in the same post.


There's a silent majority of BW fans who like SC2, the other thread had a poll to prove it. It's just a few vocal people who shout down SC2 in every thread.


well i am not going to talk about majority or minority but when someone posts ridiculously uninformed claims and says that he is a bw fan while clapping his hands and celebrating an even that is hurting bw a lot, i feel safe to say that the person is not a big bw fan.


Then you are ignorant, because people can be fans of more than one game.


Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:58 HyperionDreamer wrote:

It's kind of dumb to say that all bw fans are completely against the switch. I've been watching bw since 2004, grew up playing/watching it, and I want to see eSports continue in any form that it can. If Kespa thinks sc2 is the future, and is going to switch over all its players, then I'm going to support that decision because it allows me to watch my favourite players as long as I can!

Yeah, I think bw is the better game, and nothing would make my day more than seeing a huge sponsor commit to BW and guarantee a bunch more seasons of spl/msl/osl, but any form of esports is obviously better than no esports at all. I think a lot of people are being a bit hypocritical when they say "I want eSports but it MUST be only X game, not Y game." Having a preference is fine (ie. I don't enjoy watching/playing LoL at all), but this extremism with "BW OR NOTHING" is a bit too much.



This sums up what I want to say more nicely.


then you are dyslexic as it's not what I said...
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