EPTTeam Hate/Which Team/Fans Most Annoying? - Page 13
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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Winechu
Singapore1186 Posts
I started watching pro BW late, only around '09. I was completely new to the scene, and I happened to chance upon a Klazart commentary of one of Flash's game. Although I had 0 clue what was going on while watching, Klazart made him out to be a really cool player. So I continued to watch his games, and a bit of googling led me to TL. I began to read widely about BW strategy and only then did I start to realise how good this Flash kid was at the game, even though we're of the same age. I started watching BW proleague regularly to follow his fortunes, and it naturally made me a KT fan. However, I only truly started to fall in love with KT last season. Like I mentioned in another thread, it was a great story. The team triumphed through adversity after adversity, and were so close to losing in the Grand Finals. But they made it. That really inspired me, and that's why I love KT. I know about KT's dubious history and I can empathise with people who hate KT because of that. However, I believe this current incarnation of KT to be different. It has personality. It has fighting spirit. You can tell from the KT Zergs doing jack shit in the regular season, then suddenly becoming Jaedongs in the playoffs. You can tell from Stats / Flash's expressions when they lose, and how they promptly get back up for the next game. The emotional contagion I get from KT can't be replicated. I feel their daebak wins, and their epic failures. They are so so human and I really like that. And that's why I'm a KT fan. While I empathise with the haters, it doesn't mean I don't get pissed off, because I see KT as a victim of the previous era and the previous management. The KT of old may have been heartless and abused their financial ability, but I believe KT's current success is not because they bought it. They fought hard for it and had to go through a lot to do it. Fighting hard from last place to first. Doing it all for Violet. Struggling through the playoffs and doing it the hard way. It really demeans their effort and spirit by dismissing it as merely being bought. I resent that. Call me defensive, but I will always be behind KT when somebody flames KT senselessly, because I think I know KT better and I love KT. Call me delusional, because I don't see KT the same way as you do and we've got a different umwelt. As for my obnoxious posts...well that's part and parcel of being a fan isn't it? Gloating is fun. Petty arguments are fun. Pointing out how your fanatical support for the team is vindicated is fun. Trash talking is fun. Arrogance is guilty fun. The line I try to draw is between fun and plain offensive. I support responsible fun so I'd apologise promptly when I know I cross the line. As for the most obnoxious group of fans...SKT fans. No other reason other than the fact that I'm a KT fan and they always try to antagonise us KT fans. As for my favourite group of fans, probably the STX fans. It takes a lot of character to support a team like that. They're generally amiable and have a self-depreciating sense of humour as well. | ||
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reincremate
China2215 Posts
On March 26 2012 00:27 Winechu wrote: As for my favourite group of fans, probably the STX fans. It takes a lot of character to support a team like that. They're generally amiable and have a self-depreciating sense of humour as well. Yes, all 8 of them on TL lol | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
Winechu You can tell from the KT Zergs doing jack shit in the regular season, then suddenly becoming Jaedongs in the playoffs Jaedong's yeah I agree them following in the footsteps of jaedong . It's so hard to believe how far they have step up to reach this kind of level . If you ask me about fielding Action vs terran (I would be like are you for real sir ? ) , Hoejja v Zerg (Oh no auto lose send Mind please ) , Crazy-Hydra ? (50-50 the best I will give you ) . Now I see so many possibility I can do with KT zergs in a bw match, it's totally unexpected for them to be doing this well.. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
On March 26 2012 00:27 Winechu wrote: As for my favourite group of fans, probably the STX fans. It takes a lot of character to support a team like that. They're generally amiable and have a self-depreciating sense of humour as well. Anyone can be a frontrunner. It's no coincidence that KT and SKT have the most fans. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5598 Posts
On March 25 2012 15:53 Letmelose wrote: I like teams that have history and depth. Teams with interesting stories. Teams that create great players, not steal them from less financially stable teams. Whenever I see the CJ team, I'm reminded of the glorius GO team that had the likes of Go_Rush, Nal_Ra, Midas, ForU, and of course, Xellos. Xellos was a GO man through and through, and stuck with his team and even shared is tournament winnings. The team just oozed class. Plus, coach Cho was awesome. Throughout the years we've seen the rise of so many generations of superb players from the team. Team 8 reminds me of the now gone POS team and PLUS teams. How July came out of nowhere into superstardom. How he played his designted 1v1 games, 2v2 games as both zerg and terran, ACE matches, and to top things of even 1v1 games as a random player, to support his team while coach Ha constructed the team from rock bottom to discover stars such as Sea. How MBCGame eventually conquered all with their three musketeers. Or the parallel story from the PLUS team with Anytime, and their rise to the top only two years after being the worst team out there by far. Then there are teams that steal. Like when KT snatched Flash when WeMade Fox was under financial stress. Especially so with SK Telecom T1 with the likes of Midas, and Bisu. Their success and victories are less meaningful because their stories can be summarized with "So we bought these guys, and some faltered because their drive was no longer there because of the high salaries, but it's okay because we also got some other guys and it worked out great for us." SK Telecom T1 and KT are boring because they are the epitome of the financially stable teams. There are no odds stacked against them. There are no miracles. There are no superstars that come out of nowhere, only mercinaries. They are expected to do well, and often do well, and when they don't, it's okay because they can buy more players. Teams like MBCGame reached the top against all odds, but when they couln't keep their best future prospect in Bisu because of financial hardships, the miracle couldn't be sustained and now they're disbanded. There's no uncertainty for the bigger teams, and while that may make things easier to support them, just know you're supporting the most boring teams also. A bigger trophy cabinet and fan base doesn't always mean a richer history. This is what I feel too. It is becoming more and more frustrating to watch PL. I was a big fan of KTF Magicians, but at the time I didn't know the scene very well. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On March 25 2012 23:51 IntoTheheart wrote: I dunno, I'm pretty sure that most die-hards will support their team and bash the other teams (ACE not withstanding obviously, everyone loves ACE). Why would anyone do that? You're making your fanbase look immature and you're not attracting any new fans anyway. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3130 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On March 26 2012 04:49 AppleTart wrote: SKT is the most hated team and has the most hated fans and is only 4th most liked. Go figure, TL speaks. Many Khan fans are also huge SKT fans. KT has the same situation except with STX. | ||
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SaetZero
United States855 Posts
but i also anti-fan flash hard, so i tend to not be a fan of kt (even though i like hoejja and action) so yea...... 0  | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Kaal
Djibouti2516 Posts
Especially Csheep. That guy's a dick. | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On March 26 2012 05:08 Lightwip wrote: Hoejja is the only player still left on KT that I don't hate. Nope, Hoejja's beaten Bisu too. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Yep, compulsory hostility. As surprising as it may seem, I don't hate/like players based on whether or not they have ever beaten Bisu. But you are not above being a hostile troll. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:02 Lightwip wrote: But you are not above being a hostile troll. I know I'll soon regret having said anything, but... That's rich. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:02 Lightwip wrote: Yep, compulsory hostility. As surprising as it may seem, I don't hate/like players based on whether or not they have ever beaten Bisu. But you are not above being a hostile troll. With your LR history you really don't have any right to submit this post, lol. | ||
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