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On January 02 2013 15:55 Rwatkins wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2013 15:53 phyre112 wrote:On January 02 2013 15:44 krndandaman wrote:On January 02 2013 15:38 Rwatkins wrote:On January 02 2013 14:52 krndandaman wrote:
lol kind of relating to wallets...
where do you guys put your wallets/cellphones (i use my cellphone case as a wallet as well)?
front pocket or back pocket?
i do front but people have been telling me otherwise. Back pocket otherwise it tends to ruin how my trousers/jeans look then do you have to take it out every time you sit down?  Sitting on a wallet or phone will obviously damage the phone over time; it's actually also bad for your hips and lower back, and I would certainly prefer to keep those healthy more than I would do keep my pants looking nice. I try to keep phone/keys/wallet in a jacket pocket rather than pants. In the summer it's unavoidable, so I stick them in the front. I haven't damaged my phone by sitting on it so far xD
I ruined a pair of jeans by only keeping my wallet in my back right pocket.. Ever since then I've been rotating pockets from font to back, left to right for phone / keys / wallet so that nothing gets ruined.
I'm not a fan of having the outline of my phone or wallet on my jeans.. I think some people like it though but to each is their own.
Also if I'm in a large crowd (like in new years) I go for front pocket so I dont get pickpocketed.
Edit: Also like phyre112 mentioned, I'm always favoring jacket pockets over pants
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Can you give me suggestions for casual but nice shoes that you can just wear to everywhere (school, dinners etc) and would match just about anything (except for formal clothing) like jeans etc.
I am 23 and try to dress somewhat nice.
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Chukkas, maybe wingtips. Brown
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Hey all. Does anyone have any recommendations for finding actually slim-fitting bootcut jeans in America? I've tried the Levi's 507 (discontinued and supposed to be the slimmest boot fit they offer) and various clothing store's "slim fit boot cut" (American Eagle, Buckle, etc) but most of those still make my body look disproportionately bottom-heavy (I'm pretty slim, so that's why). The only truly slim fitting bootcut jeans I've found were ironically enough ordered from yesstyle.com, but I outgrew them and one of my female friends looked better in them anyway (lol) so those are gone. On a side note, if it's too hard to find well fitting and truly slim fit bootcut jeans for guys here, I'm actually not opposed to the idea of wearing women's jeans (as long as they look good, who cares?). The main reason I'm looking for jeans like this is because I feel like my wardrobe can be really limited by only having skinny jeans (all I have and what usually looks good on me). Last thing I should mention is that I prefer thinner denim, and stretch denim is also nice (both for comfort reasons).
Any recommendations?
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Why are you looking specifically for bootcuts? Pick a cut that works with your body. If skinny jeans do, stick with it. If you want a baggier fit, don't look for something completely different
That said, look into raw denim for cuts, as it'll have more options for you, or get other types of pants (chinos, cords, etc
What's your body type? Height, weight? And what jeans do you normallry wear that lookd good? Post pics
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Skinny body type, not too muscular. About 5'10, 145 pounds (fluctuates between 140 and 150 generally). I don't necessarily want a baggier fit; I still much prefer form fitting looks. Something that form fits through the thigh and knee but flares a bit at the leg is what I'd want in a "slim fit bootcut jean." Other types of pants would be nice and I do have a nice pair of Dockers (they're the slim fit ones, not sure what the exact name is) that fit pretty well and I'd be interested in more pants like that at a decent price (I'm a college student working part time, so I can't exactly afford to spend a lot). As far as raw denim goes, I've tried it but I have an especially hard time finding raw denim that fits and feels good because I have bigger hips than average for guys, and seeing as how raw denim is usually stiffer and less stretchy (in my experiences, anyway), most raw denim jeans are either A. too tight in the waist or B. fine in the waist and look like hammer pants. I've considered getting some raw shrink-to-fit jeans but I'm not sure about those. The idea of spending $40+ on jeans that might not work out is daunting to me.
Finally, the jeans I usually wear that look good are Levi's 511s (found some really nice stretch ones that feel good after that initial "ten minutes of dying from being cut in half" dealio) and also Levi's 521's, which are a slim fit taper. Those are harder for me to wear, though, because they aren't stretch denim and gaining even two pounds can be the difference between them fitting comfortably and me hating my life for the entire day. The one other pair of jeans I have that fits well is from a brand called Matix and they're described as a "super skinny" fit on the tag. Those fit me super well, but I got them at a thrift store so finding more has proven to be difficult. I'll get some pics taken and post em' when I have a chance.
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what are the opinions here on shrink to fit jeans? do they actually work or would it be wasted money for me to get some shrink to fit 501s (a cut that usually looks baggy on me) and try them out?
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On January 04 2013 05:02 phosphorylation wrote:
Can you give me suggestions for casual but nice shoes that you can just wear to everywhere (school, dinners etc) and would match just about anything (except for formal clothing) like jeans etc.
I am 23 and try to dress somewhat nice.
Clarks DB
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I'll second the Sperry's.
At first I was skeptical of boat shoes (or, as I call them, white people shoes), but after trying them on I was converted. They are incredibly versatile, capable of being used for most work places and fancy outings as well as sport. They always look good, and should fit like a slipper.
My only complaint is the soles. After wearing them about a year and a half, I got my shoes wet during one of the two times it rained this year, and they haven't stopped squeaking when I walk. I'm planning on buying another pair after work today.
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I'm not sure that I'm understanding all of the advice being given in this thread as the kind of "understood medium of being 'fashionable'", mostly based on actual pictures of people vs what they advise––kind of doesn't match up. A lot of posts can be boiled down into criteria like this:
1) Expensive is more fashionable
2) Budget brands aren't "real" clothing
3) Discuss "work-appropriate" looks 90% of the time
4) "I don't actually wear this, but I saw it on a forum..."
5) Nobody in this thread seems to have actually modeled or worked with clothing companies
Obviously that's blown out of proportion, but this is a brash reaction. Overall, the vibe doesn't feel conducive to people and styles that fall outside of those mock guidelines. Fashion is a lot like music where at the end of the day, subjectivity is the only fundamental constant. There are too many "truths" being tossed around here that will most likely scare lurkers who legitimately want to get involved or help but won't.
iamahydralisk above me intro'ed himself exactly the way that somebody looking for meaningful input would, but he should get based responses from people who actually wear similar items or have relevant commentary. Perhaps some of the responses in here are based and relevant, but the tone sometimes appears discriminatory. This is a lot like the Strategy forum, minus the rules. I think some general posting guidelines would go a long way in here! I'm not being negative, but just want to have this thread appear a little more inclusive since I'm passionate about it. Does the OP even read this anymore? An update would be great.
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On January 04 2013 07:45 Quesadilla wrote:
I'm not sure that I'm understanding all of the advice being given in this thread as the kind of "understood medium of being 'fashionable'", mostly based on actual pictures of people vs what they advise––kind of doesn't match up. A lot of posts can be boiled down into criteria like this:
1) Expensive is more fashionable
2) Budget brands aren't "real" clothing
3) Discuss "work-appropriate" looks 90% of the time
4) "I don't actually wear this, but I saw it on a forum..."
5) Nobody in this thread seems to have actually modeled or worked with clothing companies
Obviously that's blown out of proportion, but this is a brash reaction. Overall, the vibe doesn't feel conducive to people and styles that fall outside of those mock guidelines. Fashion is a lot like music where at the end of the day, subjectivity is the only fundamental constant. There are too many "truths" being tossed around here that will most likely scare lurkers who legitimately want to get involved or help but won't.
iamahydralisk above me intro'ed himself exactly the way that somebody looking for meaningful input would, but he should get based responses from people who actually wear similar items or have relevant commentary. Perhaps some of the responses in here are based and relevant, but the tone sometimes appears discriminatory. This is a lot like the Strategy forum, minus the rules. I think some general posting guidelines would go a long way in here! I'm not being negative, but just want to have this thread appear a little more inclusive since I'm passionate about it. Does the OP even read this anymore? An update would be great.
1) Expensive is more fashionable
it's not. the cuts and material are better fitting so you don't have to spend the effort to go tailor your clothes. nobody said they were more fashionable.
actually, I take that back. for these reasons they are instantly more 'fashionable' than 99% of the things you get off the rack.
2) Budget brands aren't "real" clothing
nobody said this either. they just have poor construction that will fall apart in one way or another. obviously 'fall apart' is quite the hyperbole - it's not like your clothes are suddenly going to disintegrate on you. However, threads might fray, seams might come apart, unexpected parts of the clothing might stretch, or the material might degrade faster than you want it.
That's why people advise not to buy cheap from stores like h&m. for budget stores that have decent construction and material, you run into the same problem I described for your first declarative.
3) Discuss "work-appropriate" looks 90% of the time
because it's easy.
+ Show Spoiler [wrote this a while ago] +personally I consider menswear to be a bore because there's not much left room for individual creativity. Every silhouette's been explored, and there are almost rules for dressing in that style - it's both restrictive and comforting at the same time, I suppose. Restrictive because anything you do out of the norm is considered wrong and everyone seems to wear the same thing, given that you understand the rather simple concepts of fit/proportions and you're wearing the 'right' things. Comforting, I suppose, because there are guidelines and rules you can follow. For people uninterested in spending the time to plan each outfit out, I think traditional menswear is a great, albeit mundane way to dress. essentially, it's a really basic way to wear clothing while still looking a bar above everyone else.
4) "I don't actually wear this, but I saw it on a forum..."
this is just a dumb point. because you don't have experience with every type of clothing doesn't mean you can't relay information, even if it's anecdotal, from other sources. as long as you cite it properly so it's not misleading there shouldn't be any reason why information sharing is a negative.
5) Nobody in this thread seems to have actually modeled or worked with clothing companies
uh
anybody with half a brain can give advice. you are welcome deem their advice to be valid or invalid based off your knowledge, opinion, or taste, but not based upon whether they've had experience in the field.
this is literally like going into a restaurant, complaining food is too salty, and having the waiter question your taste because you've never been a professional chef before.
which also completely counters your overall argument because if there was someone that posts that meets this criteria, they would be ever more likely to promote the one-sided elitism that you claim to see.
also I'd like to add that modeling has nothing to do with knowledge of how clothes fit, how they're made, etc.
On January 04 2013 07:45 Quesadilla wrote:
iamahydralisk above me intro'ed himself exactly the way that somebody looking for meaningful input would, but he should get based responses from people who actually wear similar items or have relevant commentary.
this is dumb as well. extending your forum strategy metaphor, it's like saying only gold league people should help gold league people.
anyone who has an opinion can voice it. It's the person on the receiving end that ultimately dictates which advice he considers good, and which he wants to ignore.
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Andyrau, Quesadilla wasn't really saying his 1) - 5), so much as concentrating the general posting into those criteria, which while not wholly accurate does give a good idea as to the content of the thread. Hes really more commenting on the posting atmosphere of the thread than anything else, which I'm compelled to agree with, especially the thread updates, we really could use a more active OP if possible.
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On January 04 2013 08:48 Zambrah wrote:
Andyrau, Quesadilla wasn't really saying his 1) - 5), so much as concentrating the general posting into those criteria, which while not wholly accurate does give a good idea as to the content of the thread. Hes really more commenting on the posting atmosphere of the thread than anything else, which I'm compelled to agree with, especially the thread updates, we really could use a more active OP if possible.
I know; I'm stating why each of his complaints are wrong and misled.
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On January 04 2013 09:08 andyrau wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 08:48 Zambrah wrote:
Andyrau, Quesadilla wasn't really saying his 1) - 5), so much as concentrating the general posting into those criteria, which while not wholly accurate does give a good idea as to the content of the thread. Hes really more commenting on the posting atmosphere of the thread than anything else, which I'm compelled to agree with, especially the thread updates, we really could use a more active OP if possible. I know; I'm stating why each of his complaints are wrong and misled.
Well, you actually did cross my mind while writing my post, and for good reason it seems––appears clear that you missed the entire point of what I wrote. The tone of your response is EXACTLY what I was addressing here, not so much the content which is your personal opinion that you state as infallible truth and/or counters to my suggestions. Thanks for the confirmation!
Additionally, you know nothing about me so all of your personally directed defamation and assumptions are baseless. There isn't need to be so ridiculously defensive here. Although, it does seem like you're reacting as if you felt specifically targeted. I now feel quite affirmed in my original statement.
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On January 04 2013 06:20 iamahydralisk wrote:
Skinny body type, not too muscular. About 5'10, 145 pounds (fluctuates between 140 and 150 generally). I don't necessarily want a baggier fit; I still much prefer form fitting looks. Something that form fits through the thigh and knee but flares a bit at the leg is what I'd want in a "slim fit bootcut jean." Other types of pants would be nice and I do have a nice pair of Dockers (they're the slim fit ones, not sure what the exact name is) that fit pretty well and I'd be interested in more pants like that at a decent price (I'm a college student working part time, so I can't exactly afford to spend a lot). As far as raw denim goes, I've tried it but I have an especially hard time finding raw denim that fits and feels good because I have bigger hips than average for guys, and seeing as how raw denim is usually stiffer and less stretchy (in my experiences, anyway), most raw denim jeans are either A. too tight in the waist or B. fine in the waist and look like hammer pants. I've considered getting some raw shrink-to-fit jeans but I'm not sure about those. The idea of spending $40+ on jeans that might not work out is daunting to me.
Finally, the jeans I usually wear that look good are Levi's 511s (found some really nice stretch ones that feel good after that initial "ten minutes of dying from being cut in half" dealio) and also Levi's 521's, which are a slim fit taper. Those are harder for me to wear, though, because they aren't stretch denim and gaining even two pounds can be the difference between them fitting comfortably and me hating my life for the entire day. The one other pair of jeans I have that fits well is from a brand called Matix and they're described as a "super skinny" fit on the tag. Those fit me super well, but I got them at a thrift store so finding more has proven to be difficult. I'll get some pics taken and post em' when I have a chance.
sorry, i was on mobile before.
okay i see what you mean. I'd still advise raws, for example, that sounds like my APC PS - hugs my thigh/knee well but the calf and below are wider than my Levis 511s. to be fair, i didn't size properly (down 1 instead of 2), so the waist is too big, but still. Raw denim stretches slower, but it does. the waist stretches over time (which is why you usually size down - i'm normally a 30 waist but 29 is too big for me), but yeah it tends to be more rigid because it's 100% cotton and not 99% like stretchy jeans.
Still though, is it just for diversity of your pants collection or actually because you have boots and stuff that won't look right with skinny jeans? If the former, theres plenty of affordable options that aren't denim. my chinos are from gap and i love them, especially because the cut works on me. They cost something like $70/80, but i wear them the most after jeans and are holding up okay after a year. There's cheaper options of course, that's just an example. I'm a college kid too :p.
Also, any sizing info for Red Wings boots would be helpful. I'm gonna ask for a pair for my birthday, and until i can get to a red wings store (bloomingdales nearby doesn't carry them in store -_- ) i'm stuck with online stuff. It says to size down one from DBs but i dunno.
to step into the ring a bit, i mostly agree with andy, but i also see your point.
On January 04 2013 07:45 Quesadilla wrote:
I'm not sure that I'm understanding all of the advice being given in this thread as the kind of "understood medium of being 'fashionable'", mostly based on actual pictures of people vs what they advise––kind of doesn't match up. A lot of posts can be boiled down into criteria like this:
1) Expensive is more fashionable
2) Budget brands aren't "real" clothing
3) Discuss "work-appropriate" looks 90% of the time
4) "I don't actually wear this, but I saw it on a forum..."
5) Nobody in this thread seems to have actually modeled or worked with clothing companies
Obviously that's blown out of proportion, but this is a brash reaction. Overall, the vibe doesn't feel conducive to people and styles that fall outside of those mock guidelines. Fashion is a lot like music where at the end of the day, subjectivity is the only fundamental constant. There are too many "truths" being tossed around here that will most likely scare lurkers who legitimately want to get involved or help but won't.
iamahydralisk above me intro'ed himself exactly the way that somebody looking for meaningful input would, but he should get based responses from people who actually wear similar items or have relevant commentary. Perhaps some of the responses in here are based and relevant, but the tone sometimes appears discriminatory. This is a lot like the Strategy forum, minus the rules. I think some general posting guidelines would go a long way in here! I'm not being negative, but just want to have this thread appear a little more inclusive since I'm passionate about it. Does the OP even read this anymore? An update would be great.
bolded:
if that was directed to me, well, he was missing some information. I do wear similar items - he's taller than me sure but we're both skinny in the sense that we have skinny legs and some of our jeans would be flattering on a female (my mom borrowed a pair of jeans i had once, haha), and i want to understand his purpose in seeking out a different cut, or why he's unhappy so i can give my opinion and advice and such. so i asked and suggested, while very cookie cutter (raws and chinos i mean), still useful if he's just trying to diversify.
underlined: i agree, links to good posts would be nice.
overall i feel like there's two discussions here: actual help for people to be recommended basic things, and discussing styles of different people. the first is where people ask for stuff like iamahydralisk asking for jeans, the latter asking theoretically "how does this look etc," which is where the whole #4 part kinda comes in. regardless, its clothing and there's a lot of different opinions in what looks good, even if there are certain "rules" in what fits well or whatever.
i dunno i just see what you mean i guess.
+ Show Spoiler [on sperrys] +On January 04 2013 07:38 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:I'll second the Sperry's. At first I was skeptical of boat shoes (or, as I call them, white people shoes), but after trying them on I was converted. They are incredibly versatile, capable of being used for most work places and fancy outings as well as sport. They always look good, and should fit like a slipper. My only complaint is the soles. After wearing them about a year and a half, I got my shoes wet during one of the two times it rained this year, and they haven't stopped squeaking when I walk. I'm planning on buying another pair after work today.
dont wear them when its cold, its a warm weather shoe. and dont get the ones with the really dumb soles like this plzz
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On January 04 2013 10:06 Quesadilla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 09:08 andyrau wrote:On January 04 2013 08:48 Zambrah wrote:
Andyrau, Quesadilla wasn't really saying his 1) - 5), so much as concentrating the general posting into those criteria, which while not wholly accurate does give a good idea as to the content of the thread. Hes really more commenting on the posting atmosphere of the thread than anything else, which I'm compelled to agree with, especially the thread updates, we really could use a more active OP if possible. I know; I'm stating why each of his complaints are wrong and misled. Well, you actually did cross my mind while writing my post, and for good reason it seems––appears clear that you missed the entire point of what I wrote. The tone of your response is EXACTLY what I was addressing here, not so much the content which is your personal opinion that you state as infallible truth and/or counters to my suggestions. Thanks for the confirmation! Additionally, you know nothing about me so all of your personally directed defamation and assumptions are baseless. There isn't need to be so ridiculously defensive here. Although, it does seem like you're reacting as if you felt specifically targeted. I now feel quite affirmed in my original statement.
I guess if you think my 'infallible truths' are fallible, please tell me why or state otherwise. frankly, it's all on you if you want to treat my opinions as fact, and I think I make it quite clear that it's an opinion.
If you want to complain about advice being given, give a more valid reasons than 'the overall tone is unwelcoming'. The only one I consider to be somewhat viable is that there's only one style being promoted here.
I don't participate in a lot of these menswear discussions, so the reason you direct your complaints towards me is quite baffling. I've stated that I'm quite against rules in fashion, so none of what you're saying seems to apply to me.
I also don't see where I 'personally defamed' you, I just said your reasons were misled and dumb.
stylistically we are different, and that's where our opinions differ.
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On January 04 2013 12:26 andyrau wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 10:06 Quesadilla wrote:On January 04 2013 09:08 andyrau wrote:On January 04 2013 08:48 Zambrah wrote:
Andyrau, Quesadilla wasn't really saying his 1) - 5), so much as concentrating the general posting into those criteria, which while not wholly accurate does give a good idea as to the content of the thread. Hes really more commenting on the posting atmosphere of the thread than anything else, which I'm compelled to agree with, especially the thread updates, we really could use a more active OP if possible. I know; I'm stating why each of his complaints are wrong and misled. Well, you actually did cross my mind while writing my post, and for good reason it seems––appears clear that you missed the entire point of what I wrote. The tone of your response is EXACTLY what I was addressing here, not so much the content which is your personal opinion that you state as infallible truth and/or counters to my suggestions. Thanks for the confirmation! Additionally, you know nothing about me so all of your personally directed defamation and assumptions are baseless. There isn't need to be so ridiculously defensive here. Although, it does seem like you're reacting as if you felt specifically targeted. I now feel quite affirmed in my original statement. I guess if you think my 'infallible truths' are fallible, please tell me why or state otherwise. frankly, it's all on you if you want to treat my opinions as fact, and I think I make it quite clear that it's an opinion. If you want to complain about advice being given, give a more valid reasons than 'the overall tone is unwelcoming'. The only one I consider to be somewhat viable is that there's only one style being promoted here. I don't participate in a lot of these menswear discussions, so the reason you direct your complaints towards me is quite baffling. I've stated that I'm quite against rules in fashion, so none of what you're saying seems to apply to me. I also don't see where I 'personally defamed' you, I just said your reasons were misled and dumb. stylistically we are different, and that's where our opinions differ.
andyrau, If we have different stylistic fundamentals, then why is lamenting about which of my points is "viable", well, viable? My "declaratives" don't reflect my opinions on fashion very well and are in fact gross generalizations to expose a bigger point: staying accessible to other people here on this forum. And no, by any means do I think your opinions are facts. Do not shove words in my mouth.
This wasn't directed solely at you by any means, but like I stated before, you were but one to cross my mind when writing and obviously stuck out my head for a reason. However, your reactions are making it seem like I posted your name directly which I flat out didn't do. Why this is all striking such a deep chord with you is beyond me. Again, andyrau, this wasn't to you specifically, no need to freak out. Nonetheless your last sentence should be the undertone of this thread:
"Stylistically we are different, and that's where our opinions differ." Great! Anyone and everyone can accept this, even, perhaps, benefit.
Thanks, Juliette, for both responding and contributing without scraping sentence-by-sentence for things to be defensive about. Your response is stark. You merely see "what I mean", but would never scare anyone away with a response like that. Unlike SF, this is a Starcraft forum. I have a feeling that a lot of guys here know how to 2-rax Expand but freak out when buying clothes. I think identifying enthusiasts versus casuals is key here. Good fashion for all! (Even H&M)
Cheers.
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On January 04 2013 15:23 Quesadilla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 12:26 andyrau wrote:On January 04 2013 10:06 Quesadilla wrote:On January 04 2013 09:08 andyrau wrote:On January 04 2013 08:48 Zambrah wrote:
Andyrau, Quesadilla wasn't really saying his 1) - 5), so much as concentrating the general posting into those criteria, which while not wholly accurate does give a good idea as to the content of the thread. Hes really more commenting on the posting atmosphere of the thread than anything else, which I'm compelled to agree with, especially the thread updates, we really could use a more active OP if possible. I know; I'm stating why each of his complaints are wrong and misled. Well, you actually did cross my mind while writing my post, and for good reason it seems––appears clear that you missed the entire point of what I wrote. The tone of your response is EXACTLY what I was addressing here, not so much the content which is your personal opinion that you state as infallible truth and/or counters to my suggestions. Thanks for the confirmation! Additionally, you know nothing about me so all of your personally directed defamation and assumptions are baseless. There isn't need to be so ridiculously defensive here. Although, it does seem like you're reacting as if you felt specifically targeted. I now feel quite affirmed in my original statement. I guess if you think my 'infallible truths' are fallible, please tell me why or state otherwise. frankly, it's all on you if you want to treat my opinions as fact, and I think I make it quite clear that it's an opinion. If you want to complain about advice being given, give a more valid reasons than 'the overall tone is unwelcoming'. The only one I consider to be somewhat viable is that there's only one style being promoted here. I don't participate in a lot of these menswear discussions, so the reason you direct your complaints towards me is quite baffling. I've stated that I'm quite against rules in fashion, so none of what you're saying seems to apply to me. I also don't see where I 'personally defamed' you, I just said your reasons were misled and dumb. stylistically we are different, and that's where our opinions differ. andyrau, If we have different stylistic fundamentals, then why is lamenting about which of my points is "viable", well, viable? My "declaratives" don't reflect my opinions on fashion very well and are in fact gross generalizations to expose a bigger point: staying accessible to other people here on this forum. And no, by any means do I think your opinions are facts. Do not shove words in my mouth. This wasn't directed solely at you by any means, but like I stated before, you were but one to cross my mind when writing and obviously stuck out my head for a reason. However, your reactions are making it seem like I posted your name directly which I flat out didn't do. Why this is all striking such a deep chord with you is beyond me. Again, andyrau, this wasn't to you specifically, no need to freak out. Nonetheless your last sentence should be the undertone of this thread: "Stylistically we are different, and that's where our opinions differ." Great! Anyone and everyone can accept this, even, perhaps, benefit. Thanks, Juliette, for both responding and contributing without scraping sentence-by-sentence for things to be defensive about. Your response is stark. You merely see "what I mean", but would never scare anyone away with a response like that. Unlike SF, this is a Starcraft forum. I have a feeling that a lot of guys here know how to 2-rax Expand but freak out when buying clothes. I think identifying enthusiasts versus casuals is key here. Good fashion for all! (Even H&M) Cheers.
I'm with this guy. 100%. You guys might want to remember this is just a forum for advice, and you come here willingly for that advice. No one is seeking you.
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I mostly just want to diversify (so I'd also be happy with some nice slim straight fit jeans), but I'm also definitely getting more into boots lately. I just feel bad having literally two pairs of jeans that I like and I'd like to branch out some more. I'll check out gap when I've got some more spending money and I'll keep hitting thrift stores in hopes that I'll find something nice. Thanks for all the tips.
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