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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
January 14 2012 14:08 GMT
#221
df's macro is really slipping
first we make expand, then we defense it.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 14 2012 14:14 GMT
#222
what is tb talking about? df still has the chance of a 1-2 tie.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 14 2012 14:15 GMT
#223
I don't really understand the chip in system, can someone explain ? Why are some players so low like Grubby, cloud, stephano, ret and socke
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
January 14 2012 14:16 GMT
#224
Grubby, Cloud, Ret and Socke haven´t played yet. That makes a the difference. Stephano I don´t know
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 14:18:21
January 14 2012 14:17 GMT
#225
On January 14 2012 23:15 Gevna wrote:
I don't really understand the chip in system, can someone explain ? Why are some players so low like Grubby, cloud, stephano, ret and socke


They havent played yet. Stephano's is apparently bugged at 0.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
January 14 2012 14:17 GMT
#226
people possibly thinking steph has already enough in ze bank^^
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Faerie
Profile Joined November 2006
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 14:18:32
January 14 2012 14:18 GMT
#227
Stephano and NightEnd seems to be the two advancing from the first group. NightEnd will probably take darkforce in the second game and I (sadly) dont see Thorzain beating Stephano.
UncleSpanner
Profile Joined November 2011
11 Posts
January 14 2012 14:18 GMT
#228
TB has stated Steph's counter is broked! :p
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 14 2012 14:19 GMT
#229
Ok thanks, it makes sense now
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 14:23:13
January 14 2012 14:21 GMT
#230
On January 14 2012 23:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
what is tb talking about? df still has the chance of a 1-2 tie.

TB is right.
Stephano is 1-0 atm. Thorzain is 1-1. They have not played eachother yet. Regardless of who wins, one of them will have 2 wins after the match, and therefore both of them can't get 1-2, so no, DF can't move on, he's out.

Edit: To clarify, if he beats Nightend, it won't matter, however if he had won against either Thorzain or Stephano and then lost to Nightend, it could in theory have been a three-way-tie at the bottom with Nightend winning the group with 3-0.
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
January 14 2012 14:21 GMT
#231
On January 14 2012 23:06 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:00 werynais wrote:
On January 14 2012 22:52 Hall0wed wrote:
On January 14 2012 22:42 werynais wrote:
On January 14 2012 22:31 Lysanias wrote:
On January 14 2012 22:29 werynais wrote:
On January 14 2012 22:27 Lysanias wrote:
On January 14 2012 22:26 Absentia wrote:
Infestor/Broodlord/Corrupter doesn't really work when your terran opponent has an army composition that is
a) more mobile
b) directly counters it

Ultra/ling/bane/infestor would've been a much better composition on that map in my opinion. Thorzain's army was spread all over the place and ghosts as mobile defence really aren't that great when there's ultras and banelings in play


Can't go Ultra for that many ghosts.


My god, he didn't have 40 ghosts from the beginning dude.


Did not say he did, but when Broodlords came out Thorzain already had plenty, you think if he saw Ultra he would not have gone for that amount of ghosts ? With planetary's and tanks to back it up he countered Ultra easy.


If you think Ghosts are good vs Ultras you are wrong.


Have you ever watched a decent Terran play lategame TvZ? Snipe DECIMATES Ultras, its not even funny how quick those things die to a pack of ghosts.


Yes i would say i have seen around 150 lategame TvZ's, you are wrong.
11 snipers to kill one ultra, do you even realize how long this takes?
110 snipes to kill 10 ultras, takes like 10 seconds, and you cant do anything else.

Let me add this, if you think "that it's not even funny how quick" a few ghosts kill 1 Ultra you really dont know what you are talking about. We are talking about 1 big fight here.


So all in all very cost effective, anyway you calculate a single unit vs another single unit, luckily it does not work that way.
I understand what cloud means though, perhaps Ultra's were better if only for there meatshields and taking away energy from ghosts so ling/bling/investor can do the cleanup.


No, thats exactly what i didn't do.
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
January 14 2012 14:23 GMT
#232
On January 14 2012 23:21 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
what is tb talking about? df still has the chance of a 1-2 tie.

TB is right.
Stephano is 1-0 atm. Thorzain is 1-1. They have not played eachother yet. Regardless of who wins, one of them will have 2 wins after the match, and therefore both of them can't get 1-2, so no, DF can't move on, he's out.

Stephano wins all matches: 3-0
Thorzain losing to Stephano: 1-2
Nighend losing to Darkforce and Stephano: 1-2
DF winning against Nightend: 1-2

Maps would decide, but yeah, very unlikely for DF and with the 0-2 against Thorzain I think it´s over
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 14:29:51
January 14 2012 14:25 GMT
#233
On January 14 2012 23:23 Hondelul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:21 HaXXspetten wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
what is tb talking about? df still has the chance of a 1-2 tie.

TB is right.
Stephano is 1-0 atm. Thorzain is 1-1. They have not played eachother yet. Regardless of who wins, one of them will have 2 wins after the match, and therefore both of them can't get 1-2, so no, DF can't move on, he's out.

Stephano wins all matches: 3-0
Thorzain losing to Stephano: 1-2
Nighend losing to Darkforce and Stephano: 1-2
DF winning against Nightend: 1-2

Maps would decide, but yeah, very unlikely for DF and with the 0-2 against Thorzain I think it´s over

Edit: No, he's out anyway, he can't go through on mapscore in the current situation. He's 1-5 atm, making a comeback this series would make 3-5 for him. If Thorzain/Nightend loses as much as possible the remaining games, then Thorzain will have 3-4 and Nightend will have 3-5. DF would then beat Nightend on head-to-head score, but not against Thorzain, neither on head-to-head or mapscore, so he is in fact out of the tournament period as of now. Even if he had won the first game against Nightend (0-1 atm), he would have 3-4, and still lose vs Thorzain on head-to head.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 14:39:10
January 14 2012 14:33 GMT
#234
DF has way too many hydras, Nightend is going to win I guess
€
ok, that went pretty well for DF, didn't expect that.

Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
January 14 2012 14:36 GMT
#235
Come on Darkforce, go kill him!
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
January 14 2012 14:37 GMT
#236
I think it was a terrible idea to let DF play all three matches in a row, he already played bad vs Tzain
After Mondays and Tuesdays even the Calender says W T F
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
January 14 2012 14:39 GMT
#237
DF just crush him.
Liquid | SKT
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 14 2012 14:41 GMT
#238
Think DarkForce played too long vs Thorzain, there was a little too much spoon in that ending...
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 14 2012 14:59 GMT
#239
No cannons late game Protoss you say?
/s
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
January 14 2012 15:01 GMT
#240
NOOO stream froze when df np'd the mommaship....
first we make expand, then we defense it.
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