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+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 22:06 Tobberoth wrote:
Awesome guides, I might have to put this in my favorites.
I disagree on your best beginner build for invoker though, if you're a real noob, you should use exort quas. It's pure right-click carrying. You pretty much max exort with quas in between, getting invoke on lvl 3 (for coldsnap) and again when you have 4 exort and 2 quas for Elementals. You never have to use invoke again, you simply keep elementals up all the time and use cold snap for ganking. Obviously not worth using in high level games, but it's ridiculously effective on low levels and extremely easy to play. Find enemy, cold snap, rightclick, win. Start with blades of attack+tango, then go for phase boots and wand immediately, then farm mid like crazy for assault cuirass, then your core is done and you'll be owning. Not only is it extremely strong for ganking, you can also push towers solo really easily.
I think exort quas is a decent build at any level, no? Almost every tournament game I watch exort is maxed first to help ganks with sun strikes all over the place. Sand king or another long stun + sun strike almost always means a kill.
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On June 17 2012 10:17 0mgVitaminE wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 22:06 Tobberoth wrote:
Awesome guides, I might have to put this in my favorites.
I disagree on your best beginner build for invoker though, if you're a real noob, you should use exort quas. It's pure right-click carrying. You pretty much max exort with quas in between, getting invoke on lvl 3 (for coldsnap) and again when you have 4 exort and 2 quas for Elementals. You never have to use invoke again, you simply keep elementals up all the time and use cold snap for ganking. Obviously not worth using in high level games, but it's ridiculously effective on low levels and extremely easy to play. Find enemy, cold snap, rightclick, win. Start with blades of attack+tango, then go for phase boots and wand immediately, then farm mid like crazy for assault cuirass, then your core is done and you'll be owning. Not only is it extremely strong for ganking, you can also push towers solo really easily. I think exort quas is a decent build at any level, no? Almost every tournament game I watch exort is maxed first to help ganks with sun strikes all over the place. Sand king or another long stun + sun strike almost always means a kill.
Yes. What he said is that Exort + Quas is also easier. It doesn't mean it becomes a bad build if you play better. It's not only for noobs, it's just more noob friendly.
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On June 17 2012 10:43 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 10:17 0mgVitaminE wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 22:06 Tobberoth wrote:
Awesome guides, I might have to put this in my favorites.
I disagree on your best beginner build for invoker though, if you're a real noob, you should use exort quas. It's pure right-click carrying. You pretty much max exort with quas in between, getting invoke on lvl 3 (for coldsnap) and again when you have 4 exort and 2 quas for Elementals. You never have to use invoke again, you simply keep elementals up all the time and use cold snap for ganking. Obviously not worth using in high level games, but it's ridiculously effective on low levels and extremely easy to play. Find enemy, cold snap, rightclick, win. Start with blades of attack+tango, then go for phase boots and wand immediately, then farm mid like crazy for assault cuirass, then your core is done and you'll be owning. Not only is it extremely strong for ganking, you can also push towers solo really easily. I think exort quas is a decent build at any level, no? Almost every tournament game I watch exort is maxed first to help ganks with sun strikes all over the place. Sand king or another long stun + sun strike almost always means a kill. Yes. What he said is that Exort + Quas is also easier. It doesn't mean it becomes a bad build if you play better. It's not only for noobs, it's just more noob friendly.
Exactly. When when you play it "the nooby way", you don't use sunstrike since it's decently hard to use well and you don't "want" to use invoke since it's easier not to and you don't have to put any points in it. When you're better at invoker, you can of course start with the quas exort and then still use all the other spells which make invoker such a great hero.
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Sorry to post in such an old thread, but its a sticky so hopefully that is OK. Are these build suggestions still relevant for a new player to follow? or has the game changed too much?
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theyre outdated
still usable if youre new though
edit: iirc dota2alttab or something similar had decent guides
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just ask 5-s to redo the guides hes the 2nd best chen in north america you may have heard of him
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It's not actually a sticky heh, but it is indeed linked in one of the stickies. I've asked 5-s a few times to update these but he seems too busy. I may do a full rewrite sometime soon since it is a pretty good resource.
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On July 17 2013 18:23 Firebolt145 wrote:
It's not actually a sticky heh, but it is indeed linked in one of the stickies. I've asked 5-s a few times to update these but he seems too busy. I may do a full rewrite sometime soon since it is a pretty good resource.
If you will do this and would like some help just sent me a pm. My dota knowledge isn't as bad as my play and should be enough for a lot of heroes and this "guide" is far too useful to not get it up to date.
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can just link to dota2alttab
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I updated the list, where should i post it?
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Why not just post here... peer review :D
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cause then we get a giant wall of text on the 10th page of a thread instead of the OP
also cause i'm right and you're wrong and you cant change my mind 
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I hear spoiler tags are pretty cool.
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You could probably just post it in a spoiler tag.
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